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Obama XI: Turn And Face The Strange

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Priceless said:
Was this written by...

A) Ezra Klein of The American Prospect
B) Rachel Maddow of MSNBC
C) Norm Ornstein of the ultra-liberal American Enterprise Institute
D) Maureen Dowd of the New York Times
E) Author Christoper Hitchens
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Good post. Its too bad the Chafee's and Dole's of the world don't make up more of the GOP membership in the Senate, but obviously they either wouldn't make it through the primaries or would have switched parties already in this current climate (ala Specter).

The good part in all of this is that eventually the bill is going to come due. At some point you have to broaden your electoral coalition. Appealing to people who can't figure out why Obama's Kenyan citizenship hasn't been brought up yet isn't the way to long term political health IMHO.
 
Re: Obama XI: Turn And Face The Strange

Priceless said:
Was this written by...

A) Ezra Klein of The American Prospect
B) Rachel Maddow of MSNBC
C) Norm Ornstein of the ultra-liberal American Enterprise Institute
D) Maureen Dowd of the New York Times
E) Author Christoper Hitchens
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C! It's always C! At least that's what I remember from my LSAT days ... :confused: ;)
 
Re: Obama XI: Turn And Face The Strange

Priceless said:
Was this written by...

A) Ezra Klein of The American Prospect
B) Rachel Maddow of MSNBC
C) Norm Ornstein of the ultra-liberal American Enterprise Institute
D) Maureen Dowd of the New York Times
E) Author Christoper Hitchens
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Sooo......your point is what?
 
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Plante26 said:
Sooo......your point is what?
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That mainstream conservatives have the opinion that Obama isn't a radical as portrayed by many in the media (and on this thread) but is actually governing from the middle...

It seems that his detractors have gotten more extreme rather than him.
 
Re: Obama XI: Turn And Face The Strange

Priceless said:
That mainstream conservatives have the opinion that Obama isn't a radical as portrayed by many in the media (and on this thread) but is actually governing from the middle...

It seems that his detractors have gotten more extreme rather than him.
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And you have to weigh over 600 pounds to be able to pick and choose who's a "mainstream conservative" and who isn't, apparently.
 
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Red Cloud said:
And you have to weigh over 600 pounds to be able to pick and choose who's a "mainstream conservative" and who isn't, apparently.
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That's a little harsh. Rush doesn't look much over 300 lbs.
 
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Kepler said:
Those governments were fascist. There are always going to be fascist elements on the fringe of the right -- militarism, nationalism, fundamentalism and anti-intellectualism all trend right -- but my point is it's a mistake to characterize the whole movement by its worst elements. You might as well equate the entire civil rights movement with the Black Panthers. And for that matter, economic crises can also breed far left movements -- Lenin would never have had a chance without severe economic distress.

The real brownshirt movements, the serious ones in the 30's, or post-war Britain, or the various right wing dictatorships in Central and South America, prey on an enormous, indigestible mass of unemployed, young people with no future. That's where Hitler got his muscle from. The people who work with me, well, they work. They don't have college educations but they do have mortgages, kids, things on the line. Fear plays into some of their thinking -- it's amazing to hear otherwise rational people talk about "the gay agenda" -- but it isn't the dominant factor the way it is in the real crazy movements like the militias. They aren't Birthers.

I think it's a big mistake to think of the teabaggers as primarily or even significantly, say, racist, because that is a way of underestimating them. It's the mirror of the right pretending liberals and socialists and communists are all the same thing.
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Good post Kepler. We don't see eye to eye often, but it's nice to see you are keeping things rational in this case.
 
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5mn_Major said:
There goes their last ounce of reputation...there was little left after being an outlier for years.
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You do realize that Rasmussen was the closest polling firm to the actual results on Election Day last year, right?

Feel free to continue ignoring that though. If it's one thing you're good at, it's ignoring reality.
 
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Red Cloud said:
You do realize that Rasmussen was the closest polling firm to the actual results on Election Day last year, right?

Feel free to continue ignoring that though. If it's one thing you're good at, it's ignoring reality.
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Umm..if you want to accuse me of 'ignoring reality' in past posts...feel free to tee em up.

Rassmussen is technically accurate...but frequently misleading. The inference is that Americans want Ron Paul for president as much as Obama. Most Americans have no idea what Ron Paul stands for (ie abolish the dept of education, the fed, etc), let alone who the guy is. Rassmussen seems to have no grasp of the misleading nature of results like this...and it makes them look silly.

Frankly I have been a big fan of Paul in the past...that is until I found out about his racist newsletters.
 
Re: Obama XI: Turn And Face The Strange

5mn_Major said:
Yep...usual weak conservative response. No facts, no follow through.
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You're killin' me, Smalls.

You should be the one to talk about lacking facts - only the fat one and the insane one use nothing but pure emotion more than you do.
 
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You can doubt Rasmussen if you want, you certainly would have some justification.

I just don't get why he would choose to push Ron Paul as a legitimate candidate. In other words, what incentive does he have to fire up a Ron Paul campaign? If Ras is really in the tank for Republicans, why would he encourage a candidate who at best would siphon votes away from them?
 
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WeWantMore said:
You can doubt Rasmussen if you want, you certainly would have some justification.

I just don't get why he would choose to push Ron Paul as a legitimate candidate. In other words, what incentive does he have to fire up a Ron Paul campaign? If Ras is really in the tank for Republicans, why would he encourage a candidate who at best would siphon votes away from them?
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I think the point, as 5mn pointed out, is that he is a nobody that no one knows anything about, and yet still matches The One in popularity polls. It illustrates the idea being reported that most Americans would rather have a 4-pound blobfish holding the office right now than Obama.
 
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