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Obama XI: Turn And Face The Strange

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How did a post this lucid wind up on an internet political thread? :mad:

How like a liberal to mistake equivocation and wishy-washiness for lucidity. I feel guilty for posting such blather in a moment of weakness. :o
Obama's a commie dictator!
 
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How like a liberal to mistake equivocation and wishy-washiness for lucidity. I feel guilty for posting such blather in a moment of weakness. :o
Obama's a commie dictator!

Thank you. I feel relieved.
 
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Has the stock market helped you in any way, shape or form recently?

Who...me? Ah yes, the portfolio is up exactly 63.1% since I bought shortly after Obama entered office. Approx a third of that gain has come since a slight dip 2 1/2 months ago.

Stupid Alcoa :(
 
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Has the stock market helped you in any way, shape or form recently?

I haven't logged in to my portfolio recently, but I doubt it. Again, I don't place a lot of weight in the stock market when it comes to political decisions. But if other people say the ramifications of a piece of legislation are going to cause the market to crash and then that crash doesn't happen (in fact, the market has gone up and is over 11,000) then I'm going to wonder if maybe they were fear-mongering as a way to influence said legislation. If the stock market had gone down, I'm sure we'd be hearing all about it.
 
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The equities markets are not always good reflections of the macro economy. A more "accurate" barometer, if one exists, is the bond markets, especially yields on longer-term T-bonds.
 
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The equities markets are not always good reflections of the macro economy. A more "accurate" barometer, if one exists, is the bond markets, especially yields on longer-term T-bonds.

IMO its a bad measure if you expect it to be precise. Its actually pretty decent if you gauge it based on general expectations. When the markets crashed in 2008...there was incredible fear and uncertainty. Over the past year, investors do appear to have been piling in for the long haul.

A good part of the problem is the measuring stick. Pricing for 30 equities is not the best metric of an economy. Likewise some stocks are priced relatively high (Apple which has blasted to new highs) and others that have not nearly reached their potential (Bank of America which is well under half the price it was at previous to the crash inpite of acquiring merrill lynch). All this makes reads from the markets difficult...even so its there are some directional and magnitudinal indicators the markets give.
 
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Who...me? Ah yes, the portfolio is up exactly 63.1% since I bought shortly after Obama entered office. Approx a third of that gain has come since a slight dip 2 1/2 months ago.

Stupid Alcoa :(

WOW!! OVER 63% since your hero came into office!!!! Now any 'true' lefty would just give 70% of your gain to the federal government without them having to ask for it.

So what's your problem? Why make the feds redistribute your earnings to those less fortunate when you can take the initiative yourself.

**** selfish people!
 
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Remember when the Red Cloud's of the world were saying that scumbag racist Teabaggers weren't shouting the N word at black congressmen during the Health Care vote? Turns out they were relying on video shot an hour AFTER the incidents took place. :rolleyes:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_n_word_feud

Any more excuses guys?
 
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Remember when the Red Cloud's of the world were saying that scumbag racist Teabaggers weren't shouting the N word at black congressmen during the Health Care vote? Turns out they were relying on video shot an hour AFTER the incidents took place. :rolleyes:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_n_word_feud

Any more excuses guys?
Just one.

Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minn., told an audience, "No witness saw it, it's not on camera, it's not on audio."

If Michele says it didn't happen, well.................
 
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Wow
I thought Rover had video, I guess not
 
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Our liberty depends on the freedom of the press, and that cannot be limited without being lost.
Author: Thomas Jefferson

Obama's disregard for media reaches new heights at nuclear summit

By Dana Milbank
Wednesday, April 14, 2010

World leaders arriving in Washington for President Obama's Nuclear Security Summit must have felt for a moment that they had instead been transported to Soviet-era Moscow.

They entered a capital that had become a military encampment, with camo-wearing military police in Humvees and enough Army vehicles to make it look like a May Day parade on New York Avenue, where a bicyclist was killed Monday by a National Guard truck.

In the middle of it all was Obama -- occupant of an office once informally known as "leader of the free world" -- putting on a clinic for some of the world's greatest dictators in how to circumvent a free press.

The only part of the summit, other than a post-meeting news conference, that was visible to the public was Obama's eight-minute opening statement, which ended with the words: "I'm going to ask that we take a few moments to allow the press to exit before our first session."

Reporters for foreign outlets, many operating in repressive countries, got the impression that the vaunted American freedoms are not all they're cracked up to be.

Yasmeen Alamiri from the Saudi Press Agency got this lesson in press freedom when trying to cover Obama's opening remarks as part of a limited press "pool": "The foreign reporters/cameramen were escorted out in under two minutes, just as the leaders were about to begin, and Obama was going to make remarks. . . . Sorry, it is what it is."

Alamiri's counterparts from around the world had similar experiences. Arabic-language MBC TV's Nadia Bilbassy had this to say of Obama's meeting with the Jordanian king: "We were there for around 30 seconds, not enough even to notice the color of tie of both presidents. I think blue for the king."

Lalit K. Jha of the Press Trust of India, at Obama's meeting with the Pakistani prime minister, reported, "In less than a minute, the pool was asked to leave." The Yomiuri Shimbun correspondent found that she was "ushered out about 30 seconds" after arriving for Obama's meeting with the Malaysian prime minister. Emel Bayrak of Turkey's TRT-Turk went to Obama's meeting with the president of Armenia but "we had to leave the room again after less than 40 seconds."

"When you only see the president for 15 or 20 seconds without him asking if you have any questions, it's very frustrating," said Laura Haim of France's Canal+, which persuaded the White House to include foreign outlets in the press pool. "It's very important for this president, who wants to restore the image of the United States, to have more access."

Obama's official schedule for Tuesday would have pleased China's Central Committee. Excerpts: "The President will attend the Heads of Delegation working lunch. This lunch is closed press . . . The President will meet with Prime Minster Erdogan of Turkey. This meeting is closed press. . . . The President will attend Plenary Session II of the Nuclear Security Summit. This session is closed press."

Reporters, even those on the White House beat for two decades, said it was the most restrictive set of meetings they had ever seen in Washington. They complained to both the administration and White House Correspondents' Association, which will discuss the matter Thursday with White House press secretary Robert Gibbs.

The restrictions have become a common practice for the Obama White House. When Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu came to the White House a couple of weeks ago, reporters were kept away. Soon after that, Obama signed an executive order on abortion, again without any coverage.

Over the weekend, Obama broke with years of protocol and slipped off to a soccer game without the "protective" pool that is always in the vicinity of the president in case the unthinkable occurs. Obama joked about it later to Pakistan's prime minister, saying reporters "were very upset."

In "bilateral" meetings with foreign leaders, presidents usually take questions, or at least trade statements. But at most of Obama's, there were only written "readouts":

Canada: "The president and the prime minister noted the enduring strength of our bilateral partnership." India: "The two leaders vowed to continue to strengthen the robust relationship between the people of their countries." Pakistan: "President Obama began by noting that he is very fond of Pakistan."

Reporters, many in a "filing center" about a quarter-mile away from the leaders' meetings, relied on dispatches from colleagues allowed in as the press pool. The dispatches, over three days, were uniform: "They were too far away to hear conversation. . . . Again, Obama had nothing to say of substance that pooler heard. . . . We were in for all of 30 seconds. No news; no quotes and again no statements. . . . Same deal folks."

Finally, Obama walked over to a group of reporters Monday afternoon. Would he give them an account of his meetings? "I'll let somebody else do it," he said with a smile.
 
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Just one.



If Michele says it didn't happen, well.................

It works both ways:

Fang told the AP he was standing "pretty far away" across Independence Avenue from the Cannon building when he saw the crowd erupt, so he hurried over. Fang did not hear the epithet, but he said he believes it was used. "The hatred was palpable," he said.

If Fang believes, well......
 
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WOW!! OVER 63% since your hero came into office!!!! Now any 'true' lefty would just give 70% of your gain to the federal government without them having to ask for it.

So what's your problem? Why make the feds redistribute your earnings to those less fortunate when you can take the initiative yourself.

**** selfish people!

I'm glad to both hear that your happy with my gain...and your acknowledgement that Obama played a role.

And regarding taxes, I'll gladly pay my share...now as you brought it up, when are you heading overseas to put your life on the line in the middle east?
 
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Our liberty depends on the freedom of the press, and that cannot be limited without being lost.
Author: Thomas Jefferson

I think the WH press corp will turn on the administration eventually though with the political pressure being what is from their own networks I think you'll see it in incidents and spurts. These guys worked their lives to get into this position and I'm sure they're a prideful lot. When they honestly get the drift that people (and by people I mean their peers) consider them idiots they'll start to get cranky.

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The only thing the DJIA tells me that the bubble has been re-inflated... which was the intent... you can't go out and spend all kinds of money without the APPEARANCE of a stable economy. Remember where we sit now... nearly 20 months removed from the economy collapse... and no laws have been changed. 20 months. Anybody bet we'll get to two years and beyond?

The idea right now is to do what we can to put off the inevitable because its harmful to a president who wants to change the fundamentals of society. If think we can't afford "change" then it can't happen... if we do think we can it does... whether we can actually afford it is irrelevant because to dems its a moral obligation.

Student loans will be next as the doctor shortage is starting to become obvious. I mean, like, "in the NY Times" obvious.
 
Re: Obama XI: Turn And Face The Strange

Remember when the Red Cloud's of the world were saying that scumbag racist Teabaggers weren't shouting the N word at black congressmen during the Health Care vote? Turns out they were relying on video shot an hour AFTER the incidents took place. :rolleyes:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_n_word_feud

Any more excuses guys?

Depends. I can't decide which is worse: that, or someone registering an alias on a hockey board just to drop the n-bomb in attempt to make members of the opposite political party look bad.

Anyone seen GoBlackBears lately?

Maybe on the treadmill?
 
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Depends. I can't decide which is worse: that, or someone registering an alias on a hockey board just to drop the n-bomb in attempt to make members of the opposite political party look bad.

Which, of course, is what we know to be happening with the tea party as well.

http://crashtheteaparty.org/

But remember, folks, the tea party is irrelevant. That's why things like this are necessary.
 
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Which, of course, is what we know to be happening with the tea party as well.

http://crashtheteaparty.org/

But remember, folks, the tea party is irrelevant. That's why things like this are necessary.
Hey did you hear Glenn Beck raped and murdered a girl in 1990? And that Beck lost his case to censor them?

Which still doesn't make him and his message any more relevant.
 
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I'm glad to both hear that your happy with my gain...and your acknowledgement that Obama played a role.

And regarding taxes, I'll gladly pay my share...now as you brought it up, when are you heading overseas to put your life on the line in the middle east?

Ahhh...yes. You're an expat, so you don't pay any taxes, correct?...and since when did investing in real estate and profiteering abroad fall under "putting your life on the line" in the mid-east?
 
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