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Obama XI: Turn And Face The Strange

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How much of that 50% are disappointed liberals though, upset because he hasn't delivered them single payer, halted global warming in its' tracks, etc.?

I'm tempted to throw out the R and D numbers and just look at the I's, and that's a net -14%, which I suspect if we weren't used to Dubya numbers would be historically pretty low. Again, though, there is the X vs not-X problem here.

At the end of the day, his chances come down to the employment rate. Two-thirds have already made up their minds (even the Yankees will lose at least 54 games, even the Mets will win at least 54), the middle third votes on pocketbook issues.
 
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Splits are listed. 54% of independents say he should be a one-termer, more Democrats want to give him the heave than Republicans want to keep him around.

Poor little Red Could getting all excited about a snapshot poll of an event that won't happen for more than two and a half years.

Here's my prediction. Obama crushes Palin/Pawlenty/Romney/Generic GOP stiff, followed by me coming out here the next day and torturing you knuckledraggers worse than I did last November. Feel free to quote me on this one. :cool:
 
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sorry, I haven't watched Fox or the Daily Show for quite some time. I'll just assume it's a joke.
It's a bit of a sore spot, like the brother of a gay person who takes offense to gay bashing.

The clip is posted in this very thread...
 
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in 2000 Missouri elected a dead man to the US Senate!!
Some would argue that this is a continuous occurance.

Maybe we need Meinhardt Raabe to vet the candidates before they actually appear on the ballot.
 
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That said, the hospital was/is in the wrong. And the criticizing group in question doesn't represent the majority. The story written by the Post is far from objective journalism in using terms such as "whining" and "anti-gay".

It wasn't from The Washington Post; it was from Washington Monthly, and they would be the first to admit that they come from a left-of-center point of view.
 
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Watch the end of the daily show video.

Someone also argued it in the last thread how liberals would abort a baby if they knew it had down syndrome.

They abort them when they don't know...is that better?
 
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They abort them when they don't know...is that better?

No because it isnt true and irresponsible to say. (and libelous by the Faux News Empty Heads)

Geez you realize if people were held to the slander and libel standard Faux News and MSNBC would be out of business...I think I found my campaign platform! :D
 
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No because it isnt true and irresponsible to say. (and libelous by the Faux News Empty Heads)

Geez you realize if people were held to the slander and libel standard Faux News and MSNBC would be out of business...I think I found my campaign platform! :D

It is true, women do abort babies when they have no idea if the child is healthy. That has nothing to do with Fox, MSNBC or any news agency.
 
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It is true, women do abort babies when they have no idea if the child is healthy. That has nothing to do with Fox, MSNBC or any news agency.

Yeah, but once again what does that have to do with what is being discussed. The man said Liberals would never have 5 kids one with down syndrome...not that women wouldnt or dont but that LIBERALS wouldnt...ya see the difference between your statement and his? He is making broad sweeping generalizations about one half of the political spectrum whereas you arent. Now maybe I missed something growing up in a liberal state coming from a liberal family with friends who tend to be liberal but I am pretty sure this jerkoff is full of crap...unless the mentally challenged people I see out there are all the children of conservatives. (which would lend credence to some things Rover says ;) )

Ya see the man was trying to make Palin sound like a hero and rip to shreds Liberals because they want to kill all the retarded children. That is what he is saying even though he has no evidence to back it up. I dont know what you call that, but we call that talking out of your *** and lying. That is not what the media is supposed to do.
 
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Yeah, but once again what does that have to do with what is being discussed. The man said Liberals would never have 5 kids one with down syndrome...not that women wouldnt or dont but that LIBERALS wouldnt...ya see the difference between your statement and his? He is making broad sweeping generalizations about one half of the political spectrum whereas you arent. Now maybe I missed something growing up in a liberal state coming from a liberal family with friends who tend to be liberal but I am pretty sure this jerkoff is full of crap...unless the mentally challenged people I see out there are all the children of conservatives. (which would lend credence to some things Rover says ;) )

Ya see the man was trying to make Palin sound like a hero and rip to shreds Liberals because they want to kill all the retarded children. That is what he is saying even though he has no evidence to back it up. I dont know what you call that, but we call that talking out of your *** and lying. That is not what the media is supposed to do.

To me it felt like people were arguing over abortion based on political party membership. I'm no pro-lifer and recognize that if something is a law then until it is changed, if ever, then that is the law. But reducing the subject to which politicall party would try to make more hay out of the 5 kids/Downes comment is an example, again to me, of how politics becomes the issue, not the actual law, tax, policy etc.

Excluding rape, incest, risk to the mother etc. (which are not the majority of the cases but are always mentioned so we can all rationalize the decision) we're talking about people choosing to terminate a life. If we're going to charge someone with two counts of murder for killing a pregnant woman then the law has recognized that it is a life.

So, people are killing other human beings...that is a fact. Aside from the reasons above, what is the next reason for killing the person...convenience?, finances? There is a federal safety net to provide services, along with adoption, so I don't put much stock in the 'it would be cruel to bring another infant into the world' rationalization either. It is legal according to the law.

I find it ironic that one political party would spend more time, effort, money etc. trying to protect death row inmates, who themselves killed 1 or more people than they would trying to protect unborn people.

You and others will ignore what I just typed to pronounce me a republican and bring up a bunch of things republicans do that are also ironic/hypocritical vs. spending one second thinking that perhaps it is possible to support ideas on both sides of the aisle.

So, if somebody made a joke on TV, or maybe just a mistake, that was offensive to black citizens, they would be fired. But, it is fair game to make jokes about abortion, and use it as a political weapon. Again, to me it is ironic that 'the party' that would be first to cry for the offender's head in the racial comment, is the 'the party' that defends the person making the abortion joke.

It is the law...but it isn't a joking matter in my opinion.
 
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There is a federal safety net to provide services,

Which you and the rest biitch and pizz about to no end as well.

Whine if they abort them, whine if they have them and use government subsistence to help support them. No winning either way in some people's eyes.

And then you whine about offering birth control so they don't end up in that position in the first place. Again, no winning with some people.
 
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Which you and the rest biitch and pizz about to no end as well.

Whine if they abort them, whine if they have them and use government subsistence to help support them. No winning either way in some people's eyes.

And then you whine about offering birth control so they don't end up in that position in the first place. Again, no winning with some people.

wow, talk about side-stepping an issue
 
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Not really, it's all connected.

Those who cry the longest and loudest about abortion, are also those who cry the longest and loudest about providing contraception aid or education to women, and then about government providing subsistence to women or families who can't provide for their children on their own.

I could take their concerns about the abortion issue more seriously, if they weren't so hard headed and outspoken on these other matters as well.

In short, their position is, they don't want abortion, but they also don't want contraception, or government aid to poor families. Basically, they don't really care about abortion as an issue, they just want to control women and what they do with their bodies. If they were truly concerend about the reducing the numbers of abortions, they'd be all for increased contraception. and yet, they're not.
 
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