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You're so right. David Vitter would be a much better leader.
You're so right. David Vitter would be a much better leader.
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Obama XI: Turn And Face The Strange
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Re: Obama XI: Turn And Face The Strange
I'm still hoping the tea partiers will merge with the Modern Whig Party. I might be tempted to join.
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Actually that sounds interesting. One piece is a big draw...solutions over ideology and bickering. The other not so much...big national defense, which appears to go against the solutions approach on the international front. Why not carry science/economic advancement and partnering on solutions both domestically and internationally?
Actually that sounds interesting. One piece is a big draw...solutions over ideology and bickering. The other not so much...big national defense, which appears to go against the solutions approach on the international front. Why not carry science/economic advancement and partnering on solutions both domestically and internationally?
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Well, I've been convinced that there's a good role for the feds in science research (a lot of good has come out of NASA over the years). But as long as there are loose cannon dictatorships out there, that model of intellectual property sharing can't be applied around the globe. Just with the good guys. And since the nutjob dictators still outnumber the good guys, a strong military remains essential.
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More post-partisanship I see.
I rip on a Democratic leader, so that automatically suggests I think a Republican could do a better job?
More post-partisanship I see.
I rip on a Democratic leader, so that automatically suggests I think a Republican could do a better job?
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The current Congress needs to at least put up the appearance of being anti-Wall Street, because Wall Street gambling was a big part (not the only part) of the country's economic woes. How far they go with this Goldman Sachs fraud inquiry may show us if they really are serious.
Wall Street, the Federal Reserve, Congress, and the Executive branch have been in bed together since early last century, and yes a lot of that activity has been incestuous.
The current Congress needs to at least put up the appearance of being anti-Wall Street, because Wall Street gambling was a big part (not the only part) of the country's economic woes. How far they go with this Goldman Sachs fraud inquiry may show us if they really are serious.
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I think they should be pro-Wall Street but actually have a regulatory approach that works. We don't need to be a weak economic country, that won't help our long-term situation in the world. The idea that the only alternative to reckless concepts like derivatives is to declare marshall law on all financial activity is an overreaction that will lessen our already declining role in global economics.
I think they should be pro-Wall Street but actually have a regulatory approach that works. We don't need to be a weak economic country, that won't help our long-term situation in the world. The idea that the only alternative to reckless concepts like derivatives is to declare marshall law on all financial activity is an overreaction that will lessen our already declining role in global economics.
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Though prosecuting fraud is not "anti-business" any more than calling high sticking is "anti-hockey."
It's unclear to me that there is even a national economy any more except on paper. The dominant corporations are multinational, and their rise or decline may not have much bearing on, say, the rise and decline of currencies, trade deficits, etc, except insofar as they hold nations hostage by being too big to fail.
Electric power has no nationality; maybe capital doesn't (or shouldn't) either. Identifying a business interest as "American" sounds like a way to give it a privileged position relative to citizens who might otherwise regulate it. That privilege cannot be extended back to the consumer or worker by the company because that would be business suicide. So any advantage we extend is, basically, charity.
Though prosecuting fraud is not "anti-business" any more than calling high sticking is "anti-hockey."
It's unclear to me that there is even a national economy any more except on paper. The dominant corporations are multinational, and their rise or decline may not have much bearing on, say, the rise and decline of currencies, trade deficits, etc, except insofar as they hold nations hostage by being too big to fail.
Electric power has no nationality; maybe capital doesn't (or shouldn't) either. Identifying a business interest as "American" sounds like a way to give it a privileged position relative to citizens who might otherwise regulate it. That privilege cannot be extended back to the consumer or worker by the company because that would be business suicide. So any advantage we extend is, basically, charity.
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What? I was agreeing with you. Someone like David Vitter would bring a great deal of credibility if he wrote the bill. You have already voiced your disdain of anything Dodd-related; you have another senator in mind?
More post-partisanship I see.
I rip on a Democratic leader, so that automatically suggests I think a Republican could do a better job?
What? I was agreeing with you. Someone like David Vitter would bring a great deal of credibility if he wrote the bill. You have already voiced your disdain of anything Dodd-related; you have another senator in mind?
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You'd like to think so but more often than not I hear otherwise.
You'd like to think so but more often than not I hear otherwise.
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Oh, I apologize then. I thought you were referencing Vitter's affections for the ladies of the night.
Oh, I apologize then. I thought you were referencing Vitter's affections for the ladies of the night.
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The DC Madam scandal,the Canal Street Madam scandal...
I thought you were saying something along the lines of, "Sure, Dodd's dirty, but this guy is as well."
That's what I get for jumping to conclusions I guess.
The DC Madam scandal,the Canal Street Madam scandal...
I thought you were saying something along the lines of, "Sure, Dodd's dirty, but this guy is as well."
That's what I get for jumping to conclusions I guess.
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Part of the problem with the current attempts at "reform" is that the bill is trying to reframe the entire financial system in one shot. Want to reform derivatives trading? Fine, but why are you trying to establish a "consumer protection agency" in the same breath? Is someone marketing CDS on payday loans? Are community banks, making all sorts of crappy commercial and RE loans, less threatening than some swaps trader in NYC? As a consequence, you have a Balkanized opposition that pits broker-dealers against community banks who are fighting the larger commercial banks who are against the non-bank lenders. Moreover, you have internal fighting between the regulators over who does what, e.g., will the Fed's power be expanded or curtailed? Will the OTS survive? Throw in an assessment of $50B against the largest players "to protect the taxpayers against future bailouts, when the current tab is exponentially higher, and I have to agree that this bill doesn't do shiat to protect against future bailouts or lessen the "socialized risks" we found in the last mess.
Part of the problem with the current attempts at "reform" is that the bill is trying to reframe the entire financial system in one shot. Want to reform derivatives trading? Fine, but why are you trying to establish a "consumer protection agency" in the same breath? Is someone marketing CDS on payday loans? Are community banks, making all sorts of crappy commercial and RE loans, less threatening than some swaps trader in NYC? As a consequence, you have a Balkanized opposition that pits broker-dealers against community banks who are fighting the larger commercial banks who are against the non-bank lenders. Moreover, you have internal fighting between the regulators over who does what, e.g., will the Fed's power be expanded or curtailed? Will the OTS survive? Throw in an assessment of $50B against the largest players "to protect the taxpayers against future bailouts, when the current tab is exponentially higher, and I have to agree that this bill doesn't do shiat to protect against future bailouts or lessen the "socialized risks" we found in the last mess.
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How is the left unreasonable? basically, their position is, it's the woman's decision to make, it's a private matter,so everyone else just butt out.
How is the left unreasonable? basically, their position is, it's the woman's decision to make, it's a private matter,so everyone else just butt out.
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To me being a builder and problem solver is a philosophy that one largely believes in or not. Rather than saying we believe in a total partnership philosphy, which stops at the borders and then we call the shots...makes no sense. Regardless, the uber strong defense goes against the efficient govt which appears to be their other strong plank.
Don't get me wrong...it sounds like that party has potential. But in the end, its like the party realizes it would be cool to chuck ideology, be enlightened and partner to make progress...but has also decided that it still wants to still be conservative. The result looks like its a bit schizophrenic.
To me being a builder and problem solver is a philosophy that one largely believes in or not. Rather than saying we believe in a total partnership philosphy, which stops at the borders and then we call the shots...makes no sense. Regardless, the uber strong defense goes against the efficient govt which appears to be their other strong plank.
Don't get me wrong...it sounds like that party has potential. But in the end, its like the party realizes it would be cool to chuck ideology, be enlightened and partner to make progress...but has also decided that it still wants to still be conservative. The result looks like its a bit schizophrenic.
rufus
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Same thing with the Tea Party. It'll never organize nationally because it's a collection of single-issue voters all with their own issues. If they ever sit down to hash it out for a national campaign, they'll end up killing each other.
I think the main reason for that is, I think it was founded by a group of veterans (lots of love for both strong defense and the national payroll/VA benefits etc.). If they try to broaden their appeal, they will have to both refine positions and ignore one-issue voters. That's probably not a winning proposition nowadays. sadly.
Same thing with the Tea Party. It'll never organize nationally because it's a collection of single-issue voters all with their own issues. If they ever sit down to hash it out for a national campaign, they'll end up killing each other.
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This is great. For the second time in a week, Keith Olbermann and his salivating boytoy Rover were both pwnd by video evidence to the refutation of their most hysterical yipping.
This is great. For the second time in a week, Keith Olbermann and his salivating boytoy Rover were both pwnd by video evidence to the refutation of their most hysterical yipping.
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Example:
If one feels (correctly IMHO) that a women has the right to choose whether or not to use BCPs or have an abortion, why is it not also a pharmacist +/or physician's right to refuse said service in a non-emergent situation? Is it not a private matter for either party? Wouldn't enacting a law forcing a pharmacist to dispense a legal product be putting one person's views over an other's?
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