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Obama XI: Turn And Face The Strange

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pirate said:
I think they should be pro-Wall Street but actually have a regulatory approach that works. We don't need to be a weak economic country, that won't help our long-term situation in the world. The idea that the only alternative to reckless concepts like derivatives is to declare marshall law on all financial activity is an overreaction that will lessen our already declining role in global economics.
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What crisis? banks are making record profits. Goldman few weeks ago and even the crappy citi is making profits when analyst expected them to lose money this quarter.

I'ven't seen anyone get fired at the regulatory agency and non of them have admitted they messed up, instead they are blaming lack of resources and regulatory power.

There is something wrong with this picture... citi has one of the worst balance sheets and they were expected to take a loss, but instead they made $4billion on revenue of $25billion or close to 20% profits.

So they wrote down $5billion for loan losses and had losses in other banking business like credit card etc... but had $8billion profit in trading. Like I said before how can these guys lose money with 0% borrowing cost and when Federal Reserve bank has bought $1.2trillion MBS. We don't have free market... we've controlled markets by the Federal reserve bank to benefit the banking members they serve.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Citig...2.html?x=0&sec=topStories&pos=6&asset=&ccode=

Citigroup earned 15 cents per share on revenue of $25.4 billion. That easily beat analysts expectations of a slight loss, according to Thomson Reuters.
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Overall profit at the bank was driven by the $8 billion Citi made in its securities and banking operations, which includes its trading business. That was up $4.7 billion from the fourth quarter.

Those operations are a part of Citicorp, the division that holds Citi's primary businesses.

Bonds accounted for a big chunk of the trading gain. Like other companies' investment banking operations, Citigroup's benefited from very low interest rates that allowed it to borrow cheaply to buy higher-yielding investments.
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busterman62 said:
Example:

If one feels (correctly IMHO) that a women has the right to choose whether or not to use BCPs or have an abortion, why is it not also a pharmacist +/or physician's right to refuse said service in a non-emergent situation? Is it not a private matter for either party? Wouldn't enacting a law forcing a pharmacist to dispense a legal product be putting one person's views over an other's?
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Because as part of their membership in the field in which they have chosen to practice, they have taken a professional oath that the patient's health, care and well-being is the #1 priority, and all else is secondary.

If they feel that by doing so it violates their personal morals, they are perfectly free to seek employment in some other profession. This is not a private matter, it is a function of their profession.
 
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rufus said:
Because as part of their membership in the field in which they have chosen to practice, they have taken a professional oath that the patient's health, care and well-being is the #1 priority, and all else is secondary.
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But if the patient can't talk yet, then go ahead and kill him or her if you feel like it (or if the person paying the bills asks you to). The oath only applies to adults.
 
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geezer said:
But if the patient can't talk yet, then go ahead and kill him or her if you feel like it (or if the person paying the bills asks you to). The oath only applies to adults.
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Is it against the law?
 
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Priceless said:
Did you go into a bar when you were 20 years and three months old and try to convince the bartender to sell you alcohol?
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Do babies born three months premature get to drink three months earlier than age 21? No? Then your argument is moot.
 
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Plante26 said:
Do babies born three months premature get to drink three months earlier than age 21? No? Then your argument is moot.
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It's a "Date of Birth" not a "Date of Conception."

The key word in your post is "born"
 
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Priceless said:
It's a "Date of Birth" not a "Date of Conception."

The key word in your post is "born"
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Terrierbyassociation said:
You're making a substantial logic failure. You used the term born.
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And you're both assuming that a child being "born" is up to the mother. Essentially, you're arguing that a child that is able to live outside the mother's womb is at the life-or-death mercy of the mother's decision making process.....or lack thereof, if not able to make that decision in the case of emergency. So what is it? Day before due date, abortion is OK? Two weeks after due date, still OK? Four months before due date? I have two nieces born prematurely at 24 weeks into term, perfectly healthy. Please explain your argument on determining whether or not a baby lives or dies--especially when considering the last two trimesters.
 
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