Obama 7 - now what?

[Terrierbyassociation]

Re: Obama 7 - now what?

Liberals hate Palin because she is a conservative female. Plain and simple. Nobody has ever attacked her on her ideals. Just the image portrayed by the media and the left.

What ideals is that exactly? Corruption? All talk no walk? Stoking the flames of partisanship instead of explaining why your side is the better choice?

Buying clothes on the GOP dime?

What ideals? Playing up ignorance like its an ideal we want from our children? Dumbing things down to pretend she's just like everyone else? That was a real insult, to act like intelligence is something wrong. We know she's smart and that's what makes it awful. At times she would pretend to be stupid! Just to come across as more human. It was disgusting.

 

[Plante26]

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What ideals is that exactly? Corruption? All talk no walk? Stoking the flames of partisanship instead of explaining why your side is the better choice?

Buying clothes on the GOP dime?

What ideals? Playing up ignorance like its an ideal we want from our children? Dumbing things down to pretend she's just like everyone else? That was a real insult, to act like intelligence is something wrong. We know she's smart and that's what makes it awful. At times she would pretend to be stupid! Just to come across as more human. It was disgusting.

A couple of requests, TBA:

What corruption?

How did she not "walk the walk" in her governorship?

What ignorance? Examples please.....not just your opinion.

Partisanship? How is any election not partisan?

Buying clothes on the party dime? You don't think every candidate doesn't? Hell, John Edwards got a couple hundred dollar haircut on the Dem dime.

You're saying that trying to relate to the voters is "acting ignorant". Simplifying things isn't exactly dumbing it down.....it's communicating with the electorate. I guess your perception is your perception, but it seems like the whole Tina Fey thing crossed over to reality for way too many haters, and you seem to be one of them. Just my opinion.

 

[Handyman]

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Wow...this should be a lot of fun to watch!

 

[amherstblackbear]

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Liberals hate Palin because she is a conservative female. Plain and simple. Nobody has ever attacked her on her ideals. Just the image portrayed by the media and the left.

Palin has ideals?

 

[Kepler]

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It is impossible to listen to Palin speak for fifteen minutes and not conclude she has no idea what she is saying. In every appearance she has made from acceptance speech to stump speeches to interviews to debates, the strange things that emanate from her mouth are one-third trite platitudes, one-third scripted talking points, and one-third natural, sincere zaniness that is actually rather endearing. The only major political figure to approach her level of imbecility in the last half century was Dan Quayle.

Undoubtedly there are conservative blacks and women whose mere existence drives liberals to call them "traitors," in the same way that the NRO rants about "self-hating Jews" and the religious right saves their greatest venom for Christians who don't march lockstep. That's a fact of politics. Maybe some of the hatred of Palin is due to that. But the real reaction to her -- the despair that a major party would place such a moron so close to high office -- she earned by merit.

 

[ScottM]

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Palin was here recently for a RTL dinner, and the local mouth breathers would have thought Jesus himself was showing up. Yeah, she's an idiot, but so is much of the electorate, so she'll always have a following.

 

[unofan]

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How did she not "walk the walk" in her governorship?

Well, not finishing out her one and only term as governor was a real cop out, for one.

Palin's the sole reason I didn't vote for McCain. He took his one advantage over Obama...experience...and nullified it for god only knows why when he chose miss dumbass as his running mate.

 

[unofan]

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But the real reaction to her -- the despair that a major party would place such a moron so close to high office -- she earned by merit.

The liberals should love her. If she's the GOP nominee in 2012, you'll see the first true electoral landslide since Reagan.

 

[dropthatpuck]

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Come on, lefties, let's not continue to derail the thred by bringing up Watergate, Iran-Contra and Sarah Palin.

Party fundraisers attended by last three presidents in their first term:

Clinton - 5
W - 6
Messiah - 23 (and counting)

So friggen' lost is he.

 

[Kepler]

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The liberals should love her. If she's the GOP nominee in 2012, you'll see the first true electoral landslide since Reagan.

That would be fun, but really unhealthy for the country. Can you imagine what her campaign would become when it became obvious she was down 20 points? Der Dolchstoß and Oath Keepers would look sane by comparison.

 

[Rover]

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I don't know what I'd enjoy more, having a pseudo-righty like Mitt Romney run and get torn apart by the lunatic fringe for not being "conservative enough" because he might have said hi to some Dems in the state house when he was governor on his way to the can, or having a True Believer like Palin running and laughing my head off as knuckledraggers watch in horror the election returns when she loses 35 states.

Either way 2012 will be interesting. Not because the GOP has a snowball's chance in hell, because they don't. But because whatever faction gets their person nominated is out of luck for the next few electoral cycles. Say Palin/Huckleberry/etc runs and gets crushed. Might it be that hard right wing social conservatives are now relegated to minority status in the GOP as they seek to move to the middle vs Biden/Clinton/etc in 2016?

Or, if a Romney get the nomination and loses, we'll most likely be seeing GOP nominees from the lunatic fringe for the foreseeable future, all because McCain and Romney weren't real conservatives....

 

[SPIN CONTROL]

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http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...ministration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

Latest poll...

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday shows that 26% of the nation's voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. That’s the lowest level of Strong Approval yet measured for this President. Thirty-nine percent (39%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -13 (see trends).

For the first time during Obama’s time in office, the Approval Index has been in negative double digits for seven straight days. Fifty percent (50%) of Democrats Strongly Approve while 66% of Republicans Strongly Disapprove of his performance. Among those not affiliated with either major political party, 18% Strongly Approve and 42% Strongly Disapprove.

Overall, 47% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the President's performance. Fifty-two percent (52%) disapprove.

 

[Slap Shot]

Still, for somebody who is supposed to be irrelevant there seems to be an awful lot of people who seem to care about her.

Uh, it's not liberals that have been callinger her irrelevant, it's Republicans with the hope that she will once and for all go away. Whenever anyone takes a shot at her the retort is, "Why pick on her? She doesn't matter anymore". Her book seems to be saying otherwise and again, it's not liberals keeping her in the spotlight.

 

[Kepler]

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But because whatever faction gets their person nominated is out of luck for the next few electoral cycles.

A moderate Republican with some hillbilly window dressing (i.e., a replay of McCain-Palin) will probably pull anywhere between 45-50 in 2012 depending on the economy. That's not a bad enough beating to be relegated.

A serious crazy like Palin would be buried and that would start some serious trouble.

 

[rufus]

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I don't know, but it'll be fun watching the brain drain from the TARP babies, especially BofA, Citi and AIG to their competitors over the next few months.

They know what they can do to stop it, pay us our friggin' money back, instead of giving oit away as bonuses.

Yeah, you free market guys, the government should stay out of private institutions, unless of course, that institution comes crying to the government for a handout.

Let 'em go under if they can't hack it. That's the capitalism that you guys worship so much.

 

[Kepler]

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Let 'em go under if they can't hack it. That's the capitalism that you guys worship so much.

It will be funny when the companies without million dollar bonuses perform as well as or better than those still hosting the gravy train. Even the dumbest board member will get a clue that the emperors have no clothes, and one of the great modern scams will have been exposed.

 

[rufus]

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A moderate Republican with some hillbilly window dressing (i.e., a replay of McCain-Palin) will probably pull anywhere between 45-50 in 2012 depending on the economy. That's not a bad enough beating to be relegated.

A serious crazy like Palin would be buried and that would start some serious trouble.

'Moderate" Republican? What the heck is that?

Any Republican who even ventures to try to portray themselves as moderate get primaried by the loonies in the party. Look at the bashing that Olympia Snow is getting, and she's hardly a moderate.

 

[Kepler]

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'Moderate" Republican? What the heck is that?

Any Republican who even ventures to try to portray themselves as moderate get primaried by the loonies in the party. Look at the bashing that Olympia Snow is getting, and she's hardly a moderate.

Olympia Snow is a moderate. She's pilloried by the crazies same as the Blue Dogs anger Kos. In defense of the loonies, what's the point of being the wing if you're not trying to pull the party towards you?

A "moderate Republican" would be an empty vessel like a Romney (or a Bill Clinton) with no principles other than the will to power. He could tack right to get the nomination, then tack back to center for the general without looking like a complete scoundrel. A Romney-like run would be The Campaign About Nothing. It wouldn't win -- nothing does not make people passionate -- but it wouldn't be an embarrassment either.

 

[ExileOnDaytonStreet]

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Yeah, you free market guys, the government should stay out of private institutions, unless of course, that institution comes crying to the government for a handout.

Let 'em go under if they can't hack it. That's the capitalism that you guys worship so much.

You can really tell who the true lunatics are out there right now (or at the very least: the politicians on Wall St.'s payroll) because they're going to be the ones who push for total deregulation of the banking industry. That'll be a nice way to ensure that this all happens again in 10 years. Remove all consequences for the bankers and see what they do...

The problem is: if the pure capitalists get their way (totally deregulate and stop offering bailout money when this happens again), the only thing that will happen is that the bankers will jump ship with our money and leave everyone else to rot in the next banking collapse.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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You can really tell who the true lunatics are out there right now (or at the very least: the politicians on Wall St.'s payroll) because they're going to be the ones who push for total deregulation of the banking industry. That'll be a nice way to ensure that this all happens again in 10 years. Remove all consequences for the bankers and see what they do...

The problem is: if the pure capitalists get their way (totally deregulate and stop offering bailout money when this happens again), the only thing that will happen is that the bankers will jump ship with our money and leave everyone else to rot in the next banking collapse.

Bingo. What the idiots on both sides don't acknowledge is that free markets without regulation are just as dangerous as no free market at all.