Kepler
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Re: Obama 6(...66)
Are you really lumping 538 in with those organizations, even by association?
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Obama 6(...66)
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Patman
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Re: Obama 6(...66)
I'm sorry... you used "even handed" and "538" in the same post.
The reason Morgan Tsvangarai (sp?) and those guys in China won't win a Nobel comes down the international Left's idea of peace. Peace to them is the absent of mass conflict and mass casualty. This means that a repressive tyrant can be considered peaceful and those agitating for justice and rule of law are consider ***** disturbers. This is disappointing... for a long time the West... and then the American... and now the American right's definition of peace is an absence of mass conflict and mass casualty AND an absence of totalitarianism.
There are definitely better examples of the human condition that deserve to be highlighted... but they feel that their definition of peace (as embodied in the march of the international left) is served by choosing Obama. Frankly the Norwegians should be ashamed for their lack of highlighting those noble actors for peace and freedom. Nice to be a country which is so starkly separated from a lack of a threat of life or freedom. The people hurt today are those who live in those places where life is tough and your government makes it tougher to suit their own selfish needs. This world needs defenders of freedom and defenders of those who would do harm to others. This does not serve that role... it only serves as a celebration of the righteousness of politics and not the celebration of strife for the betterment of the human condition.
I'm sorry... you used "even handed" and "538" in the same post.
The reason Morgan Tsvangarai (sp?) and those guys in China won't win a Nobel comes down the international Left's idea of peace. Peace to them is the absent of mass conflict and mass casualty. This means that a repressive tyrant can be considered peaceful and those agitating for justice and rule of law are consider ***** disturbers. This is disappointing... for a long time the West... and then the American... and now the American right's definition of peace is an absence of mass conflict and mass casualty AND an absence of totalitarianism.
There are definitely better examples of the human condition that deserve to be highlighted... but they feel that their definition of peace (as embodied in the march of the international left) is served by choosing Obama. Frankly the Norwegians should be ashamed for their lack of highlighting those noble actors for peace and freedom. Nice to be a country which is so starkly separated from a lack of a threat of life or freedom. The people hurt today are those who live in those places where life is tough and your government makes it tougher to suit their own selfish needs. This world needs defenders of freedom and defenders of those who would do harm to others. This does not serve that role... it only serves as a celebration of the righteousness of politics and not the celebration of strife for the betterment of the human condition.
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See that's where the right misses the boat.
There is progress...there has been year after year. There are more democracies than ever before...not fewer. Every year the people's voice grows stronger...not weaker. It is hightened conflict that allows governments like Iran, Russia (and IMO the US over the last decade) to attempt to stretch its power. It is relaxation and prosperity that weakens a governments hand over its people. We're moving towards one global culture and that one culture is towards respect for your fellow man. So China is reforming as we speak...it is becoming more cosmopolitan and smart. And as it does so, China's govt will offer respect...the increasing say of its people will demand it.
Likewise, the right's approach to raising threats and consequences never have an impact (unless we invade...and then we've got far more problems). Although it may feel good to some (as we stand up for rights)...the outcome does not only not help as countries consistently ignore threats, but it backfires as nationalists attack it as interference and others question what kind of role model the US is when they perceive us as preachy with little understanding of their society.
Regarding human interest...we need to separate mild problems from serious suffering and address only the latter. I could see if many on the right lived overseas...they would be crying about US mistreatment of our blacks, etc. And they'd be wrong.
See that's where the right misses the boat.
There is progress...there has been year after year. There are more democracies than ever before...not fewer. Every year the people's voice grows stronger...not weaker. It is hightened conflict that allows governments like Iran, Russia (and IMO the US over the last decade) to attempt to stretch its power. It is relaxation and prosperity that weakens a governments hand over its people. We're moving towards one global culture and that one culture is towards respect for your fellow man. So China is reforming as we speak...it is becoming more cosmopolitan and smart. And as it does so, China's govt will offer respect...the increasing say of its people will demand it.
Likewise, the right's approach to raising threats and consequences never have an impact (unless we invade...and then we've got far more problems). Although it may feel good to some (as we stand up for rights)...the outcome does not only not help as countries consistently ignore threats, but it backfires as nationalists attack it as interference and others question what kind of role model the US is when they perceive us as preachy with little understanding of their society.
Regarding human interest...we need to separate mild problems from serious suffering and address only the latter. I could see if many on the right lived overseas...they would be crying about US mistreatment of our blacks, etc. And they'd be wrong.
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I'm sorry. What's the protocol here? Does using his full name make me a racist or anti-muslim, or both?
Paraphrasing what the admiral said in Hunt for Red October: "It's up to you JMH, but why don't you cut Old Pio some slack?"
For the record, I believe a comprehensive review of my posts on the gentleman will reveal my most frequent reference--by a mile--is to "BO."
Let me turn your question around, why does it matter so much to you if once and a while I use the name he used when he was sworn in?
It can't be because you think I think he's not native born or a secret Muslim or something, nobody can be that dim. Why do you let these fringe people (as you see them) get under your your skin?
All of this braying and hand wringing and excess perspiration about Glenn Beck. I never listen to, watch or read the guy, even though I'm one of THEM.
Same thing with Rush and Bill O (I've posted previously about what an ignorant mean spirited blow hard he is based on his never withdrawn observations that Shawn Hornbeck "liked" being raped every day by a 300 pound pedophile. But that's another story). So what's the problem?
Yesterday I posted an item from the Fox web site that an Iranian, whose only crime was to be in opposition to his government, has been sentenced to death. Did we have a discussion about that? No. What we had were some sneering references to the source of the story. Eventually I posted the story from the NY Times, which apparantly met everyone's elevated standards in these matters.
One of the posters even questioned the fact that their website had a story about "cat jokes." Well, if he hadn't been so reflexively anti-Fox, and if he'd actually read beyond the headline, he would have seen that the story was not about "cat jokes" it was about air traffic controllers yakking about a dead cat while an airplane and helicopter collided over New York recently. A story which all three networks featured in their evening newscasts last night.
So perhaps we should all lighten up a bit (myself included) and stop ascribing the worst possible motives to people who disagree with us. Besides, the season begins today and I'm pumped.
I'm sorry. What's the protocol here? Does using his full name make me a racist or anti-muslim, or both?
Paraphrasing what the admiral said in Hunt for Red October: "It's up to you JMH, but why don't you cut Old Pio some slack?"
For the record, I believe a comprehensive review of my posts on the gentleman will reveal my most frequent reference--by a mile--is to "BO."
Let me turn your question around, why does it matter so much to you if once and a while I use the name he used when he was sworn in?
It can't be because you think I think he's not native born or a secret Muslim or something, nobody can be that dim. Why do you let these fringe people (as you see them) get under your your skin?
All of this braying and hand wringing and excess perspiration about Glenn Beck. I never listen to, watch or read the guy, even though I'm one of THEM.
Same thing with Rush and Bill O (I've posted previously about what an ignorant mean spirited blow hard he is based on his never withdrawn observations that Shawn Hornbeck "liked" being raped every day by a 300 pound pedophile. But that's another story). So what's the problem?
Yesterday I posted an item from the Fox web site that an Iranian, whose only crime was to be in opposition to his government, has been sentenced to death. Did we have a discussion about that? No. What we had were some sneering references to the source of the story. Eventually I posted the story from the NY Times, which apparantly met everyone's elevated standards in these matters.
One of the posters even questioned the fact that their website had a story about "cat jokes." Well, if he hadn't been so reflexively anti-Fox, and if he'd actually read beyond the headline, he would have seen that the story was not about "cat jokes" it was about air traffic controllers yakking about a dead cat while an airplane and helicopter collided over New York recently. A story which all three networks featured in their evening newscasts last night.
So perhaps we should all lighten up a bit (myself included) and stop ascribing the worst possible motives to people who disagree with us. Besides, the season begins today and I'm pumped.
Re: Obama 6(...66)
Right on
I'm not sure Obama deserves it...
And maybe it's not for Obama alone but the people of USA for electing a president who wants peace. So everyone who voted for Obama, give yourselves a pat on the back.
Nice take on dictatorship but I think most of us would take totalitarian rule over anarchy and history has shown over and over that you need to wipe out the other side to have peace. Be it to rule by king or president.
Right on
I'm not sure Obama deserves it...
And maybe it's not for Obama alone but the people of USA for electing a president who wants peace. So everyone who voted for Obama, give yourselves a pat on the back.
Nice take on dictatorship but I think most of us would take totalitarian rule over anarchy and history has shown over and over that you need to wipe out the other side to have peace. Be it to rule by king or president.
mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
Re: Obama 6(...66)
this dude at my country club has a favorite joke that he's told everyone twice.... "hey, did you know that michael jordan and tiger woods had the same nickname in high school??"
i'm sure you know where this leads...
i suppose we can now say, "hey, would you believe tiger and BHO had the same nickname in high school?!?"
Racist.
this dude at my country club has a favorite joke that he's told everyone twice.... "hey, did you know that michael jordan and tiger woods had the same nickname in high school??"
i'm sure you know where this leads...
i suppose we can now say, "hey, would you believe tiger and BHO had the same nickname in high school?!?"
Re: Obama 6(...66)
W T F? Are you going to tell people who didn't vote for Obama which death camp they should report to?
W T F? Are you going to tell people who didn't vote for Obama which death camp they should report to?
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Huh? where T F did i say that? But in your case maybe deathcamp would be a blessing.
The opposition has to be wiped out one way or the other... either thru killing, integration, powersharing or seperation.
W T F? Are you going to tell people who didn't vote for Obama which death camp they should report to?
Huh? where T F did i say that? But in your case maybe deathcamp would be a blessing.
The opposition has to be wiped out one way or the other... either thru killing, integration, powersharing or seperation.
Re: Obama 6(...66)
I'm thinking that the US is pretty peaceful. By your logic, the only way that can possibly have been achieved is if people who don't like Obama are wiped out, so I'm wondering where the remaining ones are supposed to go to get what's coming to them.
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Your point that the only way to achieve peace is to "wipe out" the opposition is ridiculous. The US has had the same government for 220 years, and no opposition has ever been wiped out. Even the South was "reconstructed" (which sucked, of course, but was waaaaay short of genocide) after the only brief interlude of war.
I'm thinking that the US is pretty peaceful. By your logic, the only way that can possibly have been achieved is if people who don't like Obama are wiped out, so I'm wondering where the remaining ones are supposed to go to get what's coming to them.
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Your point that the only way to achieve peace is to "wipe out" the opposition is ridiculous. The US has had the same government for 220 years, and no opposition has ever been wiped out. Even the South was "reconstructed" (which sucked, of course, but was waaaaay short of genocide) after the only brief interlude of war.
Patman
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walrus
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Foxton
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Re: Obama 6(...66)
But there are so many ways.
Wouldn't that be shooting people in the face after inviting them out for a nice day of killing small animals?You channeling Dick Cheney?
But there are so many ways.
mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
Re: Obama 6(...66)
i've never seen this!!!!! i love it.
makes me think of pygmy.
(which had a really weak ending, in my opinion)
But there are so many ways.
i've never seen this!!!!! i love it.
makes me think of pygmy.
(which had a really weak ending, in my opinion)Re: Obama 6(...66)
I'll be surprised if inflation doesn't hit big time in the next couple of years. The only thing holding it down now is the Fed keeping interest rates artificially low because of the week economy. They are trying to get the credit markets flowing and that would be difficult to do with high interest rates.
Patman
Rodent of Unusual Size
Re: Obama 6(...66)
its always a matter of what was the true de-multiplying effect by the contraction of the market. IMO... unless I'm understanding the way things work I would think that a lower stock market would indicate lower inflation ahead as there's a much lower multiplier of money which means that money is already inflated.
its always a matter of what was the true de-multiplying effect by the contraction of the market. IMO... unless I'm understanding the way things work I would think that a lower stock market would indicate lower inflation ahead as there's a much lower multiplier of money which means that money is already inflated.
ScoobyDoo
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Sure. Shoot the opposition in the face. Stomp their limbs into the ground. Throw gas on the them and light them on fire.
You channeling Dick Cheney?
Sure. Shoot the opposition in the face. Stomp their limbs into the ground. Throw gas on the them and light them on fire.
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But the Fed is having money printed like there's no tomorrow. That will reduce the value of each dollar and make things cost more. Yes, they can keep inflation down for a while, through control of interest rates, but eventually they will have to pay the piper. I'm not saying we'll see sky-rocketing inflation real soon, but I do think we'll start to see it sometime in the next couple of years.
But the Fed is having money printed like there's no tomorrow. That will reduce the value of each dollar and make things cost more. Yes, they can keep inflation down for a while, through control of interest rates, but eventually they will have to pay the piper. I'm not saying we'll see sky-rocketing inflation real soon, but I do think we'll start to see it sometime in the next couple of years.
Patman
Rodent of Unusual Size
Re: Obama 6(...66)
well, to me there's still a lot of official lies, conventional wisdoms, and facts that dare not be spoken to think we're even remotely in the clear... I've always viewed the weekend Fox Business shows as more of a comedy. Of course every business program is like that... everything is going up... except when it isn't but we assure you that was just a fluke.
well, to me there's still a lot of official lies, conventional wisdoms, and facts that dare not be spoken to think we're even remotely in the clear... I've always viewed the weekend Fox Business shows as more of a comedy. Of course every business program is like that... everything is going up... except when it isn't but we assure you that was just a fluke.
Kepler
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