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Obama 10: Rahm it through.....even in the shower.

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Priceless said:
Shocking that it is not true.

At least I won't have to worry about it when that Nigerian prince sends me $30 million.
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Now will Madtown "man up" and admit his deceit? I'm guessing...maybe...not. The good news is, its awful nice to have the Senate Minority Leader posting out here, although I wish he'd given a little more thought to his screen name. :eek:
 
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Priceless said:
Shocking that it is not true.

At least I won't have to worry about it when that Nigerian prince sends me $30 million.
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I was looking for the line telling me I had to send it to 7 people or a little girl with cancer would die.
 
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Priceless said:
Shocking that it is not true.

At least I won't have to worry about it when that Nigerian prince sends me $30 million.
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I suppose you read it then?

The president refused to make such a pledge, though he allowed that if "it's my family member, if it's my wife, if it's my children, if it's my grandmother, I always want them to get the very best care."
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This was the money quote at the time... I'm sure if you go back through these threads you'll find enough hay about this.

edit: the quote is from Newsbusters but you will see the same in the snopes link. I remembered there was more substance to this than some moron's chain screamer e-mail.
 
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I'm suprised the porno industry hasn't gotten into Goldman bonanza.

Goldman sucks America.
Goldman shags liberty.
Goldman gold plated rotorooter.
Goldman pump N dump

This guy did a pretty decent job and makes the connection between government and goldman. And I liked the reference to the internet in the 90's to the aftermath which was the housing pump N dump.

http://juanpablofernandez.wordpress.com/2009/07/21/goldman-sucks-the-great-american-bubble-machine/
By now, most of us know the major players. As George Bush’s last Treasury secretary, former Goldman CEO Henry Paulson was the architect of the bailout, a suspiciously self-serving plan to funnel trillions of Your Dollars to a handful of his old friends on Wall Street. Robert Rubin, Bill Clinton’s former Treasury secretary, spent 26 years at Goldman before becoming chairman of Citigroup — which in turn got a $300 billion taxpayer bailout from Paulson. There’s John Thain, the ******* chief of Merrill Lynch who bought an $87,000 area rug for his office as his company was imploding; a former Goldman banker, Thain enjoyed a multibilliondollar handout from Paulson, who used billions in taxpayer funds to help Bank of America rescue Thain’s sorry company. And Robert Steel, the former Goldmanite head of Wachovia, scored himself and his fellow executives $225 million in goldenparachute payments as his bank was selfdestructing. There’s Joshua Bolten, Bush’s chief of staff during the bailout, and Mark Patterson, the current Treasury chief of staff, who was a Goldman lobbyist just a year ago, and Ed Liddy, the former Goldman director whom Paulson put in charge of bailedout insurance giant AIG, which forked over $13 billion to Goldman after Liddy came on board. The heads of the Canadian and Italian national banks are Goldman alums, as is the head of the World Bank, the head of the New York Stock Exchange, the last two heads of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York — which, incidentally, is now in charge of overseeing Goldman — not to mention …

But then, any attempt to construct a narrative around all the former Goldmanites in influential positions quickly becomes an absurd and pointless exercise, like trying to make a list of everything. What you need to know is the big picture: If America is circling the drain, Goldman Sachs has found a way to be that drain
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OK, so Pelosi and Obama do not appear to be as smart in the world of politics compared to them being the bullies of their own party. I still assert that, influentially, Obama is a very weak and uninspiring president; even with a super majority in the house, he could not get his healthcare bill passed. Also consider Obama's personal endorsements of Senators in NJ, Virginia and Massachusetts and those election outcomes.

If I were Obama, and I wanted another term -> he has to reconsider the current HCB. Healthcare: I'd consider meeting the Republicans and coming up with a compromise that suits both parties... oh, and the SEIU. Along with dropping Cap-n-Trade and Immigration Reform (really, do we need another 30 million, uneducated, unemployed, non-English speaking people in the States? They'll just live off of the government, and in times of 10% unemployment that does not strike me as smart.).

Pelosi recently told the senate, "... to pass this Healthcare Bill, even if it means you lose your job."

Yet, I am not Obama, because Obama appears to be more of a social engineer. He talks with enthusiaism about social justice and leveling the playing field for those behind us, healthcare and illegal reform. Why should I be forced to pay extra in taxes for those behind me?

Question, answer this honestly liberals, while unemployment continues to incerase what do you do with a nation of over-educated and unemplyed people who are not producing anything? (I suspect the answer will be blame Bush.)
 
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eaglehockeyrules said:
OK, so Pelosi and Obama do not appear to be as smart in the world of politics compared to them being the bullies of their own party.
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Oh, I don't know about that. I despise Pelosi personally, but I think she is very very good at her job and corralling the votes.
 
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eaglehockeyrules said:
Pelosi recently told the senate, "... to pass this Healthcare Bill, even if it means you lose your job."
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Easy for her to say since she's from a district where there is zero chance of her losing her seat if she was a mass murderer. :rolleyes:
 
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WeWantMore said:
Oh, I don't know about that. I despise Pelosi personally, but I think she is very very good at her job and corralling the votes.
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I don't/can't agree with you, as I believe if Pelosi (or Obama for that matter) were truly that influential with the Senate/Congress we'd have a HCB in place by now. I may be wrong, but then again I am an east coast elitist... I just do not vote "D" :D

Why are the routine problems this administration addresses classified as a crisis? Economy. Health Care. Environment. However, I fail to see, hear or read the 10% unemployment being called crisis by the Whitehouse, nor the creeping gas prices. Where is the land of milk and honey that Obama campaigned on? Sadly I do not see the Whitehouse actually "owning" issues, less failed international relations (i.e., Hillary's missiles in Poland, Biden's Passover trip to Offend the Isrealis), but still blaming Bush or "how the last 8 years were run.

Obama, the audacity of truth, he called the current economical situation the worst in American history. Somehow I do not believe that economy of 2008 is as bad as that of 1929.

Obama is making himself a one-termer, IMHO; therefore, he is not as smart as people and the media make him out to be.
 
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Intrade at 65%.

The view from inside the Beltway from the people who, unlike the hood ornaments we see on the news, matter (the member and committee staff, i.e., the people who actually research and write our laws) is that it's a pretty simple proposition. Obama *must* pass it -- if he does he gets another term and the Dems hold their losses in 2010 somewhat, and then have an opportunity to widen their margins again in 2012. They'll have proven they're competent to get something done. If he doesn't, the Dems may even lose the House and Obama is in a world of hurt.

50% of the country is irrevocably committed to either D or R -- they cancel out, lifetime. 50% of the country doesn't care a whit about political identity, but they all see the mess of the last decade and want somebody to be doing something besides twiddling their thumbs or yakking on Sunday morning TV. The passage of any high-profile legislation would demonstrate the Dem's ability to govern and re-assert Obama's ability to lead, regain all but the looniest 5% of the left while defusing the center's dissatisfaction. The GOP staked the whole game on this opposition -- they *have to* win, or they're irrelevant except to their dwindling core.

It's one of those rare moments when both there will be a big shift one way or the other, and either outcome is equally likely. It's actually very exciting, and I'm sure the activists on both sides are ramping up for what is essentially a shot at driving a stake through the other side.

It's kind of a win-win for the country, too. If the Dems deliver they deserved our vote. If not, they deserve to go down. It's the (good) twin of privatization of social security.
 
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I've actually changed my mind and am now supporting the bill as it will be presented in Congress, and the President's speech yesterday was the tipping point for me. He's quite the salesman.

You see, trumping all of the other concerns that I had about the bill is a new figure which came to light yesterday that really makes me optimistic. You see, the bill is apparently going to lower the cost of premiums for companies that provide health insurance to their employees by 3000%. I mean, that's freaking amazing. I wouldn't have believed it if it hadn't come directly from the President's mouth, but there he was in Ohio saying it, and I was instantly sold. I mean, shoot, insurance companies are going to pay companies 30 times that which they're now paying for premiums to cover their employees. What's more, Obama said I'll be getting a RAISE because of it!

Count me in, fellas. Whatever else is in this bill, I don't care. I'm all about getting paid to have health insurance instead of having to pay for it, and getting a raise.
 
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Kepler said:
Intrade at 65%.

The view from inside the Beltway from the people who, unlike the hood ornaments we see on the news, matter (the member and committee staff, i.e., the people who actually research and write our laws) is that it's a pretty simple proposition. Obama *must* pass it -- if he does he gets another term and the Dems hold their losses in 2010 somewhat, and then have an opportunity to widen their margins again in 2012. They'll have proven they're competent to get something done. If he doesn't, the Dems may even lose the House and Obama is in a world of hurt.

50% of the country is irrevocably committed to either D or R -- they cancel out, lifetime. 50% of the country doesn't care a whit about political identity, but they all see the mess of the last decade and want somebody to be doing something besides twiddling their thumbs or yakking on Sunday morning TV. The passage of any high-profile legislation would demonstrate the Dem's ability to govern and re-assert Obama's ability to lead, regain all but the looniest 5% of the left while defusing the center's dissatisfaction. The GOP staked the whole game on this opposition -- they *have to* win, or they're irrelevant except to their dwindling core.

It's one of those rare moments when both there will be a big shift one way or the other, and either outcome is equally likely. It's actually very exciting, and I'm sure the activists on both sides are ramping up for what is essentially a shot at driving a stake through the other side.

It's kind of a win-win for the country, too. If the Dems deliver they deserved our vote. If not, they deserve to go down. It's the (good) twin of privatization of social security.
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Couldn't stay away, could ya:p :p :p :p :p
 
Re: Obama 10: Rahm it through.....even in the shower.

Red Cloud said:
I've actually changed my mind and am now supporting the bill as it will be presented in Congress, and the President's speech yesterday was the tipping point for me. He's quite the salesman.

You see, trumping all of the other concerns that I had about the bill is a new figure which came to light yesterday that really makes me optimistic. You see, the bill is apparently going to lower the cost of premiums for companies that provide health insurance to their employees by 3000%. I mean, that's freaking amazing. I wouldn't have believed it if it hadn't come directly from the President's mouth, but there he was in Ohio saying it, and I was instantly sold. I mean, shoot, insurance companies are going to pay companies 30 times that which they're now paying for premiums to cover their employees. What's more, Obama said I'll be getting a RAISE because of it!

Count me in, fellas. Whatever else is in this bill, I don't care. I'm all about getting paid to have health insurance instead of having to pay for it, and getting a raise.
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Source, please.
 
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