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O Dam: I fear this won't end well

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Can we at least make sure we all understand the dam itself is not in any danger of failing?

The issue is that the primary spillway was damaged and created a sinkhole that allowed water to escape and erode the surrounding hillside. Then the emergency spillway, which is earthen, was in danger of failing due to the amount of water released over it when they shut down the primary spillway. The primary spillway is back in use and is not causing any additional erosion at this time.


The emergency spillway is a 30-foot concrete dam secondary dam. If we water gets high enough, it spills over this dam and down an earthen spillway, which was eroding. If the erosion undermined this secondary dam, it would fail. No, it isn't the main dam, but failure would be pretty catastrophic.
 
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I wonder what the "international trade", or travel, deal would look like if CA stepped out during a Trump presidency. ;)

The thing that interests me is if CA stepped out during a GOP presidency and Congress they would obviously let them go. This would establish the precedent that a state can secede. Then the next time the USG is a clean sweep Dem, TX would have precedent on their side and could secede, after which we could readmit CA. Voila: rid of TX.
 
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The thing that interests me is if CA stepped out during a GOP presidency and Congress they would obviously let them go. This would establish the precedent that a state can secede. Then the next time the USG is a clean sweep Dem, TX would have precedent on their side and could secede, after which we could readmit CA. Voila: rid of TX.

Honestly, should TX go OK is gone 20 minutes later. Then AR and KS. I suspect LA would follow.

NE would be the lynch pin (assuming "continguous" would be needed). NE going would trigger WY, MT, and ID, and UT, plus ND and SD.

Welcome to "New Texas" -- TX, OK, AR, LA, KS, NE, WY, MT, ID, UT, ND, SD. Energy and agriculture. Houston as the primary seaport.

I'm not so sure some of the Canadian prairie provinces (MB, SK, AB) wouldn't take pause and a long look. Listening to Winnipeg radio (CJOB) there are times the prairies and Ottawa (and Quebec) just don't align.

I'm pretty sure IA would stay with IL (too many Cubs fans :D ). MN and WI would stay put.

Other than NE my only other question is MO in the formation of "New Texas". Thinking a bit more, MO would jump to "New SEC". ;)
 
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Honestly, should TX go OK is gone 20 minutes later. Then AR and KS. I suspect LA would follow.

NE would be the lynch pin (assuming "continguous" would be needed). NE going would trigger WY, MT, and ID, and UT, plus ND and SD.

Welcome to "New Texas" -- TX, OK, AR, LA, KS, NE, WY, MT, ID, UT, ND, SD. Energy and agriculture. Houston as the primary seaport.

I'm not so sure some of the Canadian prairie provinces (MB, SK, AB) wouldn't take pause and a long look. Listening to Winnipeg radio (CJOB) there are times the prairies and Ottawa (and Quebec) just don't align.

I'm pretty sure IA would stay with IL (too many Cubs fans :D ). MN and WI would stay put.

Other than NE my only other question is MO in the formation of "New Texas".
On the other hand, if CA goes then WA and OR are likely going with, probably HI too. BC would take a look but I'm not sure on them. AK would be smart to go as well if that happened but our leaders aren't that smart.

If you get a "Pacifica" with CA, OR, WA, HI, and BC you could be sure of two things:

1. The marijuana economy would be robust.
2. World Cup Winners in 40 years.
 
Re: O Dam: I fear this won't end well

Honestly, should TX go OK is gone 20 minutes later. Then AR and KS. I suspect LA would follow.

NE would be the lynch pin (assuming "continguous" would be needed). NE going would trigger WY, MT, and ID, and UT, plus ND and SD.

Welcome to "New Texas" -- TX, OK, AR, LA, KS, NE, WY, MT, ID, UT, ND, SD. Energy and agriculture. Houston as the primary seaport.

I'm not so sure some of the Canadian prairie provinces (MB, SK, AB) wouldn't take pause and a long look. Listening to Winnipeg radio (CJOB) there are times the prairies and Ottawa (and Quebec) just don't align.

I'm pretty sure IA would stay with IL (too many Cubs fans :D ). MN and WI would stay put.

Other than NE my only other question is MO in the formation of "New Texas". Thinking a bit more, MO would jump to "New SEC". ;)

I'd be satisfied with Texit, but if they took all the slave states with them... now there is a dream. The Knucks could have their own nation to turn into a hellscape, and we could finally start living up America's best values.
 
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I'd be satisfied with Texit, but if they took all the slave states with them... now there is a dream.

Texit. It's got a ring to it. Those dang Brits know how to mangle a language and have it work everywhere. :)

But, the slave states are all going to "New SEC", President Nicholas Saban presiding. Please rise.
 
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Better natural talent and more money to develop it. If you threw in Baja California and Nevada you'd have arguably one of the best soccer country ever.

The problem is that you're not getting Baja unless you take a couple poorer NW Mexico states with it. And Arizona. And New Mexico. :D
 
The thing that interests me is if CA stepped out during a GOP presidency and Congress they would obviously let them go. This would establish the precedent that a state can secede. Then the next time the USG is a clean sweep Dem, TX would have precedent on their side and could secede, after which we could readmit CA. Voila: rid of TX.

So much for the United States. Though, in all fairness, it used to be united States.
 
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So much for the United States. Though, in all fairness, it used to be united States.

As I have said in the past, I think 241 years is a sufficient test. The slave states are never going to civilize. We are never going to revert to their barbarism. Call it amicable, but divorce. We will all be better off.
 
Re: O Dam: I fear this won't end well

The thing that interests me is if CA stepped out during a GOP presidency and Congress they would obviously let them go. This would establish the precedent that a state can secede. Then the next time the USG is a clean sweep Dem, TX would have precedent on their side and could secede, after which we could readmit CA. Voila: rid of TX.

CA couldn't afford to leave. so much federally purchased infrastructure there that CA couldn't underwrite a mortgage :)
 
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As I have said in the past, I think 241 years is a sufficient test. The slave states are never going to civilize. We are never going to revert to their barbarism. Call it amicable, but divorce. We will all be better off.

^^^^^
 
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In all honesty, if you're a rock-ribbed conservative don't you want to wake up in a country where the political center point is somewhere within the current Republican party? A country where you don't have to worry about those godless cityfolk in NY or those namby-pamby perverts in CA. Where you can put the darkies back in their place, and enshrine laws that every sperm is sacred and the government shall never abridge your God (Christian God, naturally) given right to an M142 High Mobility Artillery Rocket System on your front porch "just in case."
 
Re: O Dam: I fear this won't end well

In all honesty, if you're a rock-ribbed conservative don't you want to wake up in a country where the political center point is somewhere within the current Republican party? A country where you don't have to worry about those godless cityfolk in NY or those namby-pamby perverts in CA. Where you can put the darkies back in their place, and enshrine laws that every sperm is sacred and the government shall never abridge your God (Christian God, naturally) given right to an M142 High Mobility Artillery Rocket System on your front porch "just in case."

Yes, if I were a conservative I would want that. I'd be real excited about Oklahoma putting women in their place as well.
 
Re: O Dam: I fear this won't end well

In all honesty, if you're a rock-ribbed conservative don't you want to wake up in a country where the political center point is somewhere within the current Republican party? A country where you don't have to worry about those godless cityfolk in NY or those namby-pamby perverts in CA. Where you can put the darkies back in their place, and enshrine laws that every sperm is sacred and the government shall never abridge your God (Christian God, naturally) given right to an M142 High Mobility Artillery Rocket System on your front porch "just in case."
I disagree. We need each other.
 
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