Notre Dame leaves Hockey East for Big 10

[Chuck Murray]

Re: Notre Dame leaves Hockey East for Big 10

Why did the NCAA make two B16 teams play in the opening round?

Because the pairings were set before one of the schools decided to join the conference?

 

[Dirty]

Re: Notre Dame leaves Hockey East for Big 10

Actually, I didn't factor Notre Dame in.

Perhaps you can form s study group with mookie and work on that reading comprehension.

Will you be forming a study group that works on spellchecking?

 

[jcarter7669]

Re: Notre Dame leaves Hockey East for Big 10

Minnesota: 6 NCAA apps, 2 Frozen Fours, 6 Conference Championships, 2 Playoff Championships
Michigan: 7 NCAA apps, 2 Frozen Fours, 2 Conference Championships, 2 Playoff Championships
Wisconsin: 4 NCAA apps, 1 Frozen Four, 0 Conference Championships, 1 Playoff Championship
Michigan State: 3 NCAA apps, 1 Frozen Four (NC), 0 Conference Championships, 0 Playoff Championships
Ohio State: 1 NCAA app
Penn State: Nothing, obviously
Notre Dame: 7 NCAA apps, 2 Frozen Fours, 2 Conference Championships, 2 Playoff Championships

Actually, I didn't factor Notre Dame in.

Perhaps you can form s study group with mookie and work on that reading comprehension.

dolt

 

[mnstate0fhockey]

dolt

sigh.... At least mookie could do the math.

I copied those statistics from somewhere else. The fact Notre Dame is listed is inconsequential to the point made. B1G has 6 teams and the teams that make up the B1G have had proportionally as much success as down years as any other conference.

 

[jcarter7669]

Re: Notre Dame leaves Hockey East for Big 10

Different point being made genius.

At least mookie could do the math.

Anything else you want to backpeddle on? You seem to be making 50 different points that all change depending on if someone actually calls you out on your BS

 

[mnstate0fhockey]

Anything else you want to backpeddle on? You seem to be making 50 different points that all change depending on if someone actually calls you out on your BS

Read above. Nothing further I have to say.

My point stands.

Now I'm going to go enjoy this beautiful day

 

[jcarter7669]

Re: Notre Dame leaves Hockey East for Big 10

My point stands.

Only in your mind. But then again ignorance is bliss. Go enjoy the beautiful day.

 

[HE12]

Re: Notre Dame leaves Hockey East for Big 10

Only in your mind. But then again ignorance is bliss. Go enjoy the beautiful day.

Nice buzz from BC fans at DCU last night regarding possible Holy Cross admittance to Hockey East.....
The resources to make it happen are available at HC and their endowment. Its endowment per student would be the largest in Hockey East.
Worcester would welcome this addition for obvious reasons for sure.
Hopeful to what the future brings for the Purple.....

 

[Snively65]

Nice buzz from BC fans at DCU last night regarding possible Holy Cross admittance to Hockey East.....
The resources to make it happen are available at HC and their endowment. Its endowment per student would be the largest in Hockey East.
Worcester would welcome this addition for obvious reasons for sure.
Hopeful to what the future brings for the Purple.....

I think that Bentley would really miss our strongest rivalry in the AHC if the Crusaders move up to the HEA. Unfortunately, I do not see Bentley ever competing at the HEA level, new rink on campus or not, although the Falcons have pulled off some fun upsets of HEA teams over the years.

 

[RIT Winters]

Re: Notre Dame leaves Hockey East for Big 10

Nice buzz from BC fans at DCU last night regarding possible Holy Cross admittance to Hockey East.....
The resources to make it happen are available at HC and their endowment. Its endowment per student would be the largest in Hockey East.
Worcester would welcome this addition for obvious reasons for sure.
Hopeful to what the future brings for the Purple.....

Resources were there last time around too and they decided they didn't want to spend them. A lot would have to be put into the women's program and the arena situation before even considering the men's program which has been pretty average in Atlantic Hockey for a long time. Is there any indication this time around Holy Cross wants to burn all that cash?

I think that Bentley would really miss our strongest rivalry in the AHC if the Crusaders move up to the HEA. Unfortunately, I do not see Bentley ever competing at the HEA level, new rink on campus or not, although the Falcons have pulled off some fun upsets of HEA teams over the years.

Bentley and HC are pretty much equals as far as their on-ice performance. As they currently exist both of them would be completely outclassed in HEA but both offer scholarships and could, like UCONN, probably turn from a mediocre AHC team to a mediocre HEA team in no time.

 

[Sean Pickett]

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Bentley and HC are pretty much equals as far as their on-ice performance. As they currently exist both of them would be completely outclassed in HEA but both offer scholarships and could, like UCONN, probably turn from a mediocre AHC team to a mediocre HEA team in no time.

So what about RIT joining Hockey East? They seem committed to both men's and women's DI hockey, have a new arena and seem to have the resources. Not being able to offer scholarships is a major disadvantage, but them have played well against NCAA teams teh past few seasons.

Sean

 

[mookie1995]

Re: Notre Dame leaves Hockey East for Big 10

Nice buzz from BC fans at DCU last night regarding possible Holy Cross admittance to Hockey East.....
The resources to make it happen are available at HC and their endowment. Its endowment per student would be the largest in Hockey East.
Worcester would welcome this addition for obvious reasons for sure.
Hopeful to what the future brings for the Purple.....

mookie would love this. 20 minutes down 190 for him. would be a sth and go when the terriors aren't around.

 

[mnstate0fhockey]

Again. I don't have to move the goalposts. The Little Six is bad. The Gophers are bad. The Badgers are bad. Your argument is "they will be better." That's your opinion. I will believe it when I see it.

What was I saying about the Badgers having the resources to <a href="http://www.sbncollegehockey.com/big-ten/2016/3/27/11313204/tony-granato-wisconsin-head-coach?utm_campaign=sbncollegehockey&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter">hire great coaches</a>, who in turn will be able to use UW's great facilities and proximity to superb recruiting markets to bring in top talent and turn that program around quickly?

Tony Granato as new head coach with Don Granato and Mark Osiecki as assistants. Do you still think that program will continue losing more than it wins?

B1G might be down at the moment, but hockey will never stay down at the B1G schools who care about the sport. These schools have a ton of resources. Minnesota, Michigan, Wisconsin, and perhaps Penn State (remains to be seen, but they have shown great commitment to their program so far) all fit this mold, as does soon to be member Notre Dame.

 

[RIT Winters]

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So what about RIT joining Hockey East? They seem committed to both men's and women's DI hockey, have a new arena and seem to have the resources. Not being able to offer scholarships is a major disadvantage, but them have played well against NCAA teams teh past few seasons.

Sean

I think most if not all RIT fans would prefer ECAC both geographically and competitively. Our lack of scholarships would not be a limiting factor in a league with the Ivy schools and Union. A move to HEA would help recruiting tremendously in and of itself, but I'm not sure it would help enough to have us aspire to being anything more than a lower to mid tier team capable of the occasional upset.

Meanwhile I think even if you took RIT's current roster and put them in ECAC we'd probably be not completely terrible next season. Much better than we'd be in HEA at least.

 

[BuB]

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What was I saying about the Badgers having the resources to <a href="http://www.sbncollegehockey.com/big-ten/2016/3/27/11313204/tony-granato-wisconsin-head-coach?utm_campaign=sbncollegehockey&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter">hire great coaches</a>, who in turn will be able to use UW's great facilities and proximity to superb recruiting markets to bring in top talent and turn that program around quickly?

Tony Granato as new head coach with Don Granato and Mark Osiecki as assistants. Do you still think that program will continue losing more than it wins?

B1G might be down at the moment, but hockey will never stay down at the B1G schools who care about the sport. These schools have a ton of resources. Minnesota, Michigan, Wisconsin, and perhaps Penn State (remains to be seen, but they have shown great commitment to their program so far) all fit this mold, as does soon to be member Notre Dame.

Again, well stated. The fact that I am watching UMass-Lowell and Quinnipiac right now and both of these teams would skate circles around the Badgers right now is incredibly frustrating as a fan and should be embarrassing to everyone associated with UW Hockey with where the program currently sits. In terms of resources, facilities, etc....it should be us playing in a Regional Final.....hopefully in just a few years.

UML and QU fans might be offended by that - and I don't mean it that way. This is a good game and your teams are very very good. I hope UW can return to both of these teams current success soon.

 

[mookie1995]

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UML and QU fans might be offended by that - and I don't mean it that way. This is a good game and your teams are very very good. I hope UW can return to both of these teams current success soon.

no reason for anyone to be offended. the state of bucky right now should have people thinking of shutting it down. no way, NO WAY, wisconsin should have season like you've seen the past couple years. embarrassing.

 

[Patman]

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no reason for anyone to be offended. the state of bucky right now should have people thinking of shutting it down. no way, NO WAY, wisconsin should have season like you've seen the past couple years. embarrassing.

Yeah... they won't be a Maine or UNH because resources will never be in question. The only eastern team with that ironclad guarantee is BC... BU likewise will always have the resources but institutional mentality is not guaranteed and could change in a hypothetical decade. Now, I don't expect things to fall apart, but it's not impossible.

That being said, WI, Michigan, and Minnesota could have their worlds collapse and they'll always have the opportunity to snap right back.

There are a few other programs where their sports devotion at an institutional/cultural level are a bit more ironclad. North Dakota and Denver, in my mind, in different ways. UND isn't Maine because the population center of Maine's support is away from Orono, whereas NoDak has strong local support and far enough away from Minneapolis to not be sucked into the pro sports milleu (as affects Lowell, for instance)

Denver, while more of the middle of the pack "mid major" school has their other programs attain status. Lacrosse more recently.

 

[mookie1995]

Re: Notre Dame leaves Hockey East for Big 10

Yeah... they won't be a Maine or UNH because resources will never be in question. The only eastern team with that ironclad guarantee is BC... BU likewise will always have the resources but institutional mentality is not guaranteed and could change in a hypothetical decade. Now, I don't expect things to fall apart, but it's not impossible.

That being said, WI, Michigan, and Minnesota could have their worlds collapse and they'll always have the opportunity to snap right back.

There are a few other programs where their sports devotion at an institutional/cultural level are a bit more ironclad. North Dakota and Denver, in my mind, in different ways. UND isn't Maine because the population center of Maine's support is away from Orono, whereas NoDak has strong local support and far enough away from Minneapolis to not be sucked into the pro sports milleu (as affects Lowell, for instance)

Denver, while more of the middle of the pack "mid major" school has their other programs attain status. Lacrosse more recently.

yup, yup, and yup.

 

[HE12]

Re: Notre Dame leaves Hockey East for Big 10

I think most if not all RIT fans would prefer ECAC both geographically and competitively. Our lack of scholarships would not be a limiting factor in a league with the Ivy schools and Union. A move to HEA would help recruiting tremendously in and of itself, but I'm not sure it would help enough to have us aspire to being anything more than a lower to mid tier team capable of the occasional upset.

Meanwhile I think even if you took RIT's current roster and put them in ECAC we'd probably be not completely terrible next season. Much better than we'd be in HEA at least.

RIT would definitely fit into ECAC better than the HE due to location. Makes no sense for HE members to travel to Rochester when they could go to Worcester. RIT would have to go to scholarships which do not match their D-III identity. RIT has no cache other than in Rochester area vs. Army, Air Force, Holy Cross and even Bentley.
Nice program with great rink and fan base - stick to AHL for chance at NCAA berth.
Holy Cross playing BC & PC at DCU Center next season and travel to ND to play the Irish, Union & Brown coming to HC rink also.

 

[ExileOnDaytonStreet]

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http://www.uscho.com/uscho-live/2016/04/07/uscho-live-thursday-at-the-2016-ncaa-frozen-four/

HEA commish (Joe Bertagna) talks about realignment around 36 minute mark (maybe a bit before or after, I didn't notice, and I'm not rewinding to find out).

Basically says what we're all expecting: HEA, if it's going to add another school, is going to stick with their footprint. I'm sure a NY school is about as far out as they'll consider, but probably no one too far west in NY. FWIW.

NCHC commish (Josh Fenton) says... nothing about it. Yet. I'm only at the 57:00 mark so far of a two-hour podcast.

Brad Schlossman talking about it at the 76:00 minute mark or so. Nothing of consequence to mention. Big question is ASU's final choice of conference affiliation. Mostly NCHC chest-thumping and B1G bashing from him on that topic.