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Notre Dame Hockey 2014-15: The year of the Freshman

Re: Notre Dame Hockey 2014-15: The year of the Freshman

What should happen this weekend:
ND sweep - yes / Split - maybe but with slight disappointment / Maine sweep - absolutely not

What my expectations are:
ND Sweep - I'd be shocked as all get out. / Split - what I sort of hope for. / Maine Sweep - would not surprise me. Can't play soft in Maine.
 
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Well a 3 point weekend AT maine. Guess I can't complain too much about that. Big weekend coming up against Providence. Vince seems to be scoring points left and right, although our PPG game streak came to end.
Some of the lines seem to be really clicking now.... Bjork, Lucia, Hinostroza. But even Wade/Thomas etc. seem to be getting on the score sheet a little.

Are we just getting lucky or are we actually starting to play better?
 
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Are we just getting lucky or are we actually starting to play better?

I don't think it's a matter of luck. When we win we've played better hockey for the most part. The team's biggest problem is its inconsistent nature. The mediocre record is a reflection of that. When I see a stark difference in the quality of play on a Saturday versus the previous night I notice Notre Dame playing a better fundamental game instead of seeing the opponent taking a completely different approach. In three of the last four weekends we've played substantially better on Saturday nights and it's no coincidence we've won 3 of those 4 Saturday games while failing to win a single one of the Friday contests.

Based on the way this team has looked over 30 games I see no way they finish the final 6 regular season games earning 9 or more points or 3 or fewer. Too streaky. We go 5 games without a win, then win three in a row, then we lose three in a row. 4 points will almost certainly mean avoiding 9th place at least. The team controls its own destiny for a finish as high as 2nd place. Only 2 times in the history of the conference has the 2nd place finisher in Hockey East failed to make the NCAAs, 2008 and the inaugural season of Hockey East, 1985. Notre Dame is mathematically eliminated from the NCAA tournament as an at-large and could only make it by winning the Hockey East tournament. Funny that they could finish 2nd and miss the party after becoming the first team to earn an at-large bid to the NCAAs finishing as low as 8th in any conference.

Notre Dame went 7-2-1 last season against the three teams left on the schedule. That 7 of those 10 were away from home would normally bode well too, but the home record this year is no better than the record on the road. Yet another reason this team is so frigging frustrating.

For the seniors on this team the only thing they've known has been streaky, often inconsistent hockey. Great starts to seasons followed by bad second halves. Huge struggles in the middle of seasons only to finish strong but having nothing left for the NCAAs. Hard to explain. These seniors are the last players with any real connection to the "old" days of Notre Dame hockey, since they are the last players to have any experience of hockey in the Joyce Center. I'm sure they all expected their careers here to include much more NCAA success than they will likely leave with. Coming off the Frozen Four in 2011 I know I expected that after 4 years in the CFIA there would surely be some. A national championship didn't even seem to be out of the question. The stark differences in this program's level of achievement playing in the JACC versus the CFIA scream for major fundamental changes in the hockey program. Or did they really just build the place to host youth tournaments and for guys like me to have a cool place to play their beer-league hockey?
 
The stark differences in this program's level of achievement playing in the JACC versus the CFIA scream for major fundamental changes in the hockey program. Or did they really just build the place to host youth tournaments and for guys like me to have a cool place to play their beer-league hockey?[/QUOTE]
Any truth to the occasional rumor that ND is consideing a women's varsity hockey program? Supposedly it was discussed when Compton first opened.
 
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Might have been one of the best played losses of the season? We really needed that for our standings. I have nightmares of just completely folding to stupid Boston whatever and being in 8th or something. I'm also left wondering, if the PP was this good earlier in the season what would our record be?
I'm also left wondering if things are actually starting to click, and if they are clicking is there a 2% they can be a dark horse and win the HE tournament.
 
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I'm also left wondering, if the PP was this good earlier in the season what would our record be?

Hypothetically, we'd be a lot better off. If the PP was going as well in the first half of the season as it has gone in the last 11 games or so we'd be looking at a lot of more palatable options.

We played 5 games in the first half that were either ties or one goal losses in which the PP went 0-13. A PP goal in each could have meant a 2-0-3 record in those games instead of the 0-3-2 record that were the actual results. That record would have us at 29th in the PWR rather than the 36th we currently sit. Not a huge improvement, but enough to keep slim but doable hopes alive for an at-large spot in the NCAAs. We'd also be tied for 3rd in HE with a game in hand on UML and BC and with control of our destiny all the way to first place. Now we have zero chance at an at-large bid and we don't even control our destiny for a first round bye. We could win out and still finish behind BU, UML, PC and NE. UML and NE hold tiebreakers against us and so will PC if we fail to take at least 3 points from BU.

Perhaps too the confidence gained from more early success and a better start would have meant a different result in some of the games we didn't win because we failed to compete. Who knows what kinds of results we would have seen from a team with a lot more gumption in ties against UConn or close losses against NE, one game where the compete level was lacking? Or the Friday game against a lousy UNH team that we have no business ever trailing 4-0 against, or Saturday against PC? An effective PP changes how a team plays against you. They have to dial their own aggressiveness down. Maybe they don't hook a guy to prevent a 3-2 because they figure the goalie has a better chance to make one save than to play 2 minutes down a man. And even when you don't score on the PP, you can wear a teams best defenders down with effective possession and then those guys are tired in the third period. Notre Dame's best teams have historically wiped out the opposition in the third period and this year we've outscored them by one goal.

The PP was successful just 5.9% of the time after 21 games, a lack of success that seems truly unfathomable under any circumstances. In the Jeff Jackson era at Notre Dame no team in the entirety of the NCAA finished a season with a PP that bad. When one considers all that he has to work with here it becomes an even bigger issue, hard as that is to believe. Hell, 5 more PP goals would have meant the PP would have been a success still barely 12% of the time, but even that meager improvement could have meant quite a difference as I have noted.

These are all cherry-picked numbers obviously. We could have netted 4 PP goals in the 5-0 loss to Minnesota and still lost the game. Or we could have scored 1 or none against Niagara in the 7-0 win and still won. But the numbers do serve to help illustrate how important an effective PP is in a game where no team averages 4 goals a game and often games are won by teams scoring just 2 or 3 times. But Notre Dame's historically bad PP for much of the season is going to mean a premature end to what should have been a much better campaign.
 
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if any ND fans need tickets to the Friday night game I have a few I purchased at the group rate for sale. 4 available, $18 each, cheaper than the box office. Shoot me a message here if interested.
 
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What in the world just happened??? My phone says ND just took 3 points at Boston U.
 
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Petersen has been lights out since coming in in the first Maine game (save % better than 95%) and the PK has been great again (91% last six games).

The Irish once again control their own destiny for a first round bye and can finish as high as 2nd. Normally a team that finishes 6-3-2 on the road in Hockey East would have clinched a top 4 spot, but the awful home record is holding them back. If these guys just took 3 points on the road from the best team in HE there is no reason they shouldn't be able to duplicate that at home against the second best team.
 
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So I have reached a life changing decision. I will no longer renew my season ticket package for Notre Dame hockey. My sister did not renew her season tickets beginning 2 seasons ago. I bet my brother will not renew either since I am not. For the first time in nearly 40 years, there will not be a season ticket holder with the last name of Wood at Notre Dame hockey games. The final nail in the coffin, you ask? Apparently, some people around us were "offended" (to use the usher's admonishing verbiage) by our complaints about the product on the ice.

You want to know what I am offended by? In no particular order, I am offended by:

1. the fact that the last piece to the puzzle for a national championship was this palace; yet we are further away from said trophy than when we played in a dump.
2. the sterile, impersonal quality of aforementioned palace. I become hooked on Notre Dame hockey, in part, because the players were so accessible. I was a 12 year-old season ticket holder who had the biggest crush on John Schmidt and he took the time (quite often) to stop and talk with me after games, at practices, even after he graduated when I saw him in Indy that summer. What 12 year-old can do that now? Just hang out with a player?
3. the separation of parents and fans. I remember from my earliest games getting to know the families of the players. Hell, I babysat Dave Poulin's kid brother when his family would take Dave out after games. His brother and I would hang out at the hotel, play video games and fall asleep. I won't even go into the relationship I formed with the Regan's. Or the White's. Or the Van Guilder's.
4. the fact that it took 2 years of complaining before someone finally listened and turned down the volume of the canned music.
5. the secondary reason for the CFIA apparently. Hockey is not the main focus anymore. It's salute a vet (even the ones they have to ship in because they've run out of Indiana vets). It's the Meijer sign extravaganza. It's the hyperactive fan of the game. It's the shrill weather girls explaining (every weekend) shufflepuck. It's autographs with Miss Indiana.
6. the fact that no one listens when I ask why the program doesn't also salute other heroes. You know, the ones NOT in uniform. Like, say, nurses, firefighters, Hospice volunteers, or others who read to the blind, deliver books to shut-ins or mentor elementary school kids. Is the university so terrified of appearing unpatriotic if they don't constantly genuflect to the military?
7. those people around me who think it is perfectly acceptable to allow their children to scream at the top of their lungs when the jumbotron implores everyone to "Get loud." No, it is not cute.
8. the loss of old rivalries because the administration is embarrassed that Notre Dame is in Indiana and wants desperately to relocate (if in their minds only) to the East Coast.
9. related to #8, the fact that our OOC schedule blows. Where's North Dakota? Where's Michigan State? Where's Denver? Where's Michigan? Bowling Green? Penn State? Yale? Quinnipiac?
10. the fact that I spend hundreds and hundreds of my hard-earned dollars and unless I am sunshine and roses, I should keep my mouth shut. Those who know me know one certain thing: Never tell Mary Catherine to shut her mouth.

I wish the hockey players nothing but great success, both here and in their futures, regardless of whether hockey is a part of that future. I'll save my money and watch the games from the comfort of my couch where if I don't sit on my hands or politely golf-clap, no one will chastise me.
 
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So just curious, how many of you folks are coming east for the series against Lowell?
 
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On the flip side of things, we made it pass umass with a crazy Friday night game and everything that goes with it. Cal seems to be playing really well.
Now the big question, do we have any chance this coming weekend?

Why we might? Cal is playing great, we are playing better (see wins over PC, BU, BC). Well, better more often at least. UML has struggled down the stretch, although they did do alright in the last series of the season.

why we don't? Isn't our overall all-time record against Lowell something like 0-8-2? or something like that?
 
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Lowell ended the season on a 5-game unbeaten streak (2-0-3).

They did, or 2-1-3 over last 3 series (but 0-1-1 against umass). But since Jan 1 they are 6-7-3. When we played them earlier they were 7-2-2. That is a enough to say they were struggling at the end I think, specially with not doing so bad in the last series. Take that out and the RIT win, suddenly they are 4-7-2 in the last HE games.

Then 0-4-1... yea I was predicting the future I guess? We've never beat them? hopefully we can win at least 1.
 
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9. related to #8, the fact that our OOC schedule blows. Where's North Dakota? Where's Michigan State? Where's Denver? Where's Michigan? Bowling Green? Penn State? Yale? Quinnipiac?
You won't see Bowling Green until ND agrees to equal reciprocity. Apparently they have refused all offers to play unless all of the games are played in South Bend. Coach Bergeron, in particular, won't play that game. ND isn't the only team in the area with that attitude. UM and MSU are also trying to play hardball in that regard. OSU is the only team that has given us a home and home series every year since realignment. In fact, they approached us about maintaining that relationship. As for the other three, the last time I looked BG is ranked above all three of them so we have no compelling reason to agree to their demands. Yearly home and home series with old rivals would be great for everyone involved but the holier than thou mindsets of certain schools needs to change before it will happen.
 
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You won't see Bowling Green until ND agrees to equal reciprocity. Apparently they have refused all offers to play unless all of the games are played in South Bend. Coach Bergeron, in particular, won't play that game. ND isn't the only team in the area with that attitude. UM and MSU are also trying to play hardball in that regard.

And therein lies one of the main reasons I have lost much of my interest in paying hard earned $$$ to see Notre Dame games in person.

I applaud any team that insists upon a 1 for 1 or 2 for 2 arrangement. Every team playing D1 hockey should insist upon this. But too many won't. It is more cost effective for Lake State (as an example) to come here and play then spend the money setting up and using their own rink. Some years ago in fact I believe they were one CCHA school that was actually going to DECLINE a home ice playoff series if it came down to it because the program would have been better off financially travelling than playing it at home before a lousy crowd. Financial concerns play a part in both teams insisting on lots of home games, and lots of other teams willing to forego any non-conference home games. I think the NCAA should tweak the RPI even further to give an even higher bonus for road games. The modest tweak initiated last season is not nearly enough of an incentive for teams like ND to play more road games.
 
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I think the NCAA should tweak the RPI even further to give an even higher bonus for road games. The modest tweak initiated last season is not nearly enough of an incentive for teams like ND to play more road games.

Data shows that playing at home increases your chance of winning by 5-10% and the new PWR essentially gives you a 20% penalty for playing at home. Meaning in the current setup is already overly incentivizing playing road games by 200-400%, I doubt any increase in that 20% will be coming soon (or ever).

What this also means is that by playing soooooo many home games ND is putting money as a priority over giving themselves the best (or maybe even a good) chance at making the NCAA tournament, which helps explain why the fanbase appears to be getting so frustrated.
 
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