Yes, still possible if they come out strong for entire game..
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Norwich 2022-23 Back to Normal (ish)
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Yes, still possible if they come out strong for entire game..
PrezdeJohnson09
Proud supporter of Osmirwich hockey
Norwich locks up the #2 seed and could have at least two home playoff games. Vital for how they’ve faired away from Kreitzberg this year.
It’s do or die time now.
MAYBE if everything fell perfectly and they lost to Hobart in the finals they might be able to snag a pool C? But my gut say they need to win the tournament to have a chance.
It’s do or die time now.
MAYBE if everything fell perfectly and they lost to Hobart in the finals they might be able to snag a pool C? But my gut say they need to win the tournament to have a chance.
MAYBE if everything fell perfectly and they lost to Hobart in the finals they might be able to snag a pool C? But my gut say they need to win the tournament to have a chance.
"DITTO"
Steve Day (NU71)
PrezdeJohnson09
Proud supporter of Osmirwich hockey
I should add, finishing 2nd in the regular season in as tough of a conference as the NEHC should be a noted accomplishment. This is not the 2003 ECAC East anymore.
However, I'm fully aware the expectation for Norwich hockey is to win the league and be in the tournament every year and that will still certainly be a tall order.
The good news is the goaltending situation is very strong and all you have to do is score one more goal than the other team at this point of the year.
1-0 and 2-1 wins matter just the same as 5-0 and 6-1.
Given the goal scoring unpredictability, it wouldn't shock me if Norwich loses in the first round (that would be a major disappointment on home ice) but I could also see them going all the way and pulling off the upset against Hobart with the right bounce of the puck in the league finals.
Exciting time of the year is upon on us! I'll be following along for sure and maybe even try and make it to the quarterfinal or semifinal if things work out for me at work and at home.
However, I'm fully aware the expectation for Norwich hockey is to win the league and be in the tournament every year and that will still certainly be a tall order.
The good news is the goaltending situation is very strong and all you have to do is score one more goal than the other team at this point of the year.
1-0 and 2-1 wins matter just the same as 5-0 and 6-1.
Given the goal scoring unpredictability, it wouldn't shock me if Norwich loses in the first round (that would be a major disappointment on home ice) but I could also see them going all the way and pulling off the upset against Hobart with the right bounce of the puck in the league finals.
Exciting time of the year is upon on us! I'll be following along for sure and maybe even try and make it to the quarterfinal or semifinal if things work out for me at work and at home.
This is not the 2003 ECAC East anymore.
It's actually pretty darn similar. There's one team running roughshod through the league beating teams by 7, 8, 9, 10, 12 goals of a given night and then there's a few NCAA bubble teams and then the rest. The only difference is that Norwich used to do what Hobart is doing. The league doesn't feel like a parity league to Hobart right now and it only feels that way to us becuase Norwich is just plain worse than they used to be.
Listen I'm as excited as anyone that I get to hopefully watch a couple more live hockey games but let's not make absurd comparisons between a National Championship Norwich team and this team.
There are, however, FAR more schools putting resources into hockey than there was 20 years ago.
Regardless, all the coaches at Norwich were told (again, last week) by the acting administration that their plan to address the deficit is to scale back financial aid and they “won’t get the same students they have in the past”.
Start praying the new President reverses that quickly when he gets into office.
Regardless, all the coaches at Norwich were told (again, last week) by the acting administration that their plan to address the deficit is to scale back financial aid and they “won’t get the same students they have in the past”.
Start praying the new President reverses that quickly when he gets into office.
There are, however, FAR more schools putting resources into hockey than there was 20 years ago.
Regardless, all the coaches at Norwich were told (again, last week) by the acting administration that their plan to address the deficit is to scale back financial aid and they “won’t get the same students they have in the past”.
Start praying the new President reverses that quickly when he gets into office.
You know what they say about excuses...
It's damn near endless around here. I get that the factors are real but the fact of the matter is the team isn't as good and there are plenty of steps that people in charge don't seem to be taking to change it. Pack the rink with fans and students the next two weeks and win a couple of damn hockey games would be a good start!
scaling back financial aid only apply to the athletic department or is it campus wide ???
Campus wide
You know what they say about excuses...
It's damn near endless around here. I get that the factors are real but the fact of the matter is the team isn't as good and there are plenty of steps that people in charge don't seem to be taking to change it. Pack the rink with fans and students the next two weeks and win a couple of damn hockey games would be a good start!
No doubt. I just think we’re being really naive to think that the ladnscape changes in college hockey haven’t affected Norwich. For quite a while, NU had their pick of elite talent in the northeast and now there are far more viable options for kids.
I also would love to see a packed rink, but I don’t know how we blame Ellsworth/the program for that. Attendance was declining during the McShane years too.
Meanwhile the GD club game was jammed with students this past weekend. Irritating.
Bog Hockey
Member
Funding for the Ellsworth experiment needs to conclude. He lacks intensity and is extremely disagreeable, just listen to his responses during the Coach’s Corner. Why is he immune to all these theories floating around regarding NU’s decline?
Attendance Averages by season, also number of home dates:
2022-23 1086 12
2022-23 1209 17
2021-22 1125 10
2020-21 none
2019-20 1278 17
2018-19 1329 17 Ellsworth named coach-Runner up
2017-18 1380 17 Last McShane year
2016-17 1629 16 Championship
2015-16 1312 17
2014-15 1528 16
2013-14 1287 18
2012-13 1618 17
2011-12 1421 17
2010-11 1732 17
2009-10 1498 19 Championship
2008-09 1682 13
2007-08 1982 17
2006-07 1839 16
2005-06 1618 17
2004-05 1589 14
2003-04 1747 15
2002-03 1871 20 Championship
2001-02 1355 17
The trend is downwards.
2022-23 1086 12
2022-23 1209 17
2021-22 1125 10
2020-21 none
2019-20 1278 17
2018-19 1329 17 Ellsworth named coach-Runner up
2017-18 1380 17 Last McShane year
2016-17 1629 16 Championship
2015-16 1312 17
2014-15 1528 16
2013-14 1287 18
2012-13 1618 17
2011-12 1421 17
2010-11 1732 17
2009-10 1498 19 Championship
2008-09 1682 13
2007-08 1982 17
2006-07 1839 16
2005-06 1618 17
2004-05 1589 14
2003-04 1747 15
2002-03 1871 20 Championship
2001-02 1355 17
The trend is downwards.
Attendance Averages by season, also number of home dates:
2022-23 1086 12
2022-23 1209 17
2021-22 1125 10
2020-21 none
2019-20 1278 17
2018-19 1329 17 Ellsworth named coach-Runner up
2017-18 1380 17 Last McShane year
2016-17 1629 16 Championship
2015-16 1312 17
2014-15 1528 16
2013-14 1287 18
2012-13 1618 17
2011-12 1421 17
2010-11 1732 17
2009-10 1498 19 Championship
2008-09 1682 13
2007-08 1982 17
2006-07 1839 16
2005-06 1618 17
2004-05 1589 14
2003-04 1747 15
2002-03 1871 20 Championship
2001-02 1355 17
The trend is downwards.
Agreed, and your data shows it started during the McShane era. There are also posts on threads all over these boards talking about declining attendance at a bunch of schools.
I had conversations with another active poster here about declining attendance/empty seats way before Ellsworth took over.
Nonetheless, it absolutely SUCKS to see an, essentially, empty student section every weekend in Kreitzberg when it used to be so strong.
PrezdeJohnson09
Proud supporter of Osmirwich hockey
Agreed, and your data shows it started during the McShane era. There are also posts on threads all over these boards talking about declining attendance at a bunch of schools.
I had conversations with another active poster here about declining attendance/empty seats way before Ellsworth took over.
Nonetheless, it absolutely SUCKS to see an, essentially, empty student section every weekend in Kreitzberg when it used to be so strong.
Ticket prices, streaming, town/team relationship, older fan base, corps/civilian divide, administration enforcing strict student conduct policies, inability to buy a ticket to a game more than 5 days in advance, season ticket holders not using seats, lack of in-game entertainment, loss of “traditional” rivals in nescac opponents with interlock ending (Bowdoin/colby used to be a massive weekend), lack of scoring etc
The list goes on and on.
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Agreed, and your data shows it started during the McShane era. There are also posts on threads all over these boards talking about declining attendance at a bunch of schools.
I had conversations with another active poster here about declining attendance/empty seats way before Ellsworth took over.
Nonetheless, it absolutely SUCKS to see an, essentially, empty student section every weekend in Kreitzberg when it used to be so strong.
Mike’s average over the first 17 years of record keeping is 1,593 in attendance, since Mike it is only 1,205. Mike’s worst year for attendance is better than all but Ellsworth’s first, which was boosted both by the novelty of a new coach and the fact that team should have won a championship ( a team built by Mike).
Mike’s average over the first 17 years of record keeping is 1,593 in attendance, since Mike it is only 1,205. Mike’s worst year for attendance is better than all but Ellsworth’s first, which was boosted both by the novelty of a new coach and the fact that team should have won a championship ( a team built by Mike).
1) Well they would have won it that year if Ellsworth hadn’t been running his crazy schemes and it hadn’t been in that horrible rink.
2)Big and slow is no way to go
3)Quote from an opposing player. “Hobart is the new Norwich”
Frustrating
A change needs to be made.