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Northeastern Huskies Offseason (Discipline: let's find it)
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SkinsFan09
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Re: Northeastern Huskies Offseason (Discipline: let's find it)
Interesting article on de-commits in today's (Sun.) Boston Globe, although focus is on college to major Jr.
http://www.boston.com/sports/hockey...rams_being_forced_to_play_shorthanded/?page=1
Interesting article on de-commits in today's (Sun.) Boston Globe, although focus is on college to major Jr.
http://www.boston.com/sports/hockey...rams_being_forced_to_play_shorthanded/?page=1
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Re: Northeastern Huskies Offseason (Discipline: let's find it)
We only have one graduating senior, but I feel like there are going to be a lot of early departures. If guys like Quailer, Saponari, Bitetto, etc. have good years (like we need them to ) I think they jump ship.
We only have one graduating senior, but I feel like there are going to be a lot of early departures. If guys like Quailer, Saponari, Bitetto, etc. have good years (like we need them to ) I think they jump ship.
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Well if they all have good years, hopefully that means we have a good year and Madigan proves he can hack it and then recruits will once again want to come. Wishful thinking.
Well if they all have good years, hopefully that means we have a good year and Madigan proves he can hack it and then recruits will once again want to come. Wishful thinking.
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It was like dominoes falling. The Hockey Saboteur hassles, needles and eventually drives off the two of the coaches. He keeps the third coach, but hires a HC the recruits have never heard of - after a protracted "national search". The uncertainty causes recruits to decommit. Then the third coach, who probably should have been the head coach, leaves to fatten his resume in the pros.
So, what else can happen? What's next? Madigan is still a smart cookie with connections all over the amateur hockey world from years as a scout for the Islanders and Penguins. His new assistants are experienced in recruiting and have relationships in places that Cronin never explored. There a plenty of fish in the sea. We will begin to see JM and his staff assemble a talented recruiting class for 2012 and beyond that is made up of the type of players that he thinks can be molded into a successful team.
The HS has made what he thinks will be the safe choice - someone he knows and likes and who, he believes, shares his "lofty values". I happen to know JM far longer and better than he does, and I believe HS may have bitten off more than he can chew out. The shame is that when Madigan is successful, HS Roby will find a way to take some of the credit.
It was like dominoes falling. The Hockey Saboteur hassles, needles and eventually drives off the two of the coaches. He keeps the third coach, but hires a HC the recruits have never heard of - after a protracted "national search". The uncertainty causes recruits to decommit. Then the third coach, who probably should have been the head coach, leaves to fatten his resume in the pros.
So, what else can happen? What's next? Madigan is still a smart cookie with connections all over the amateur hockey world from years as a scout for the Islanders and Penguins. His new assistants are experienced in recruiting and have relationships in places that Cronin never explored. There a plenty of fish in the sea. We will begin to see JM and his staff assemble a talented recruiting class for 2012 and beyond that is made up of the type of players that he thinks can be molded into a successful team.
The HS has made what he thinks will be the safe choice - someone he knows and likes and who, he believes, shares his "lofty values". I happen to know JM far longer and better than he does, and I believe HS may have bitten off more than he can chew out. The shame is that when Madigan is successful, HS Roby will find a way to take some of the credit.
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Re: Northeastern Huskies Offseason (Discipline: let's find it)
Ryecheers - you forgot - JM can't be successful. He's not a former NHL coach so it's impossible.
Ryecheers - you forgot - JM can't be successful. He's not a former NHL coach so it's impossible.
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I took PPGuru's post below to say that even though NU fans are more upset with their own administration that they're still at least a little upset that BC landed Gaudreau. To me, this really is the same thing as Ferriero de-committing from BC. Both players chose to de-commit. Unless Cronin had some talks with Ferriero prior to his de-committment from BC, I have no ill will towards NU.
Ferriero was never guaranteed the money that Hayes ended up getting. It's not like Cody was a free agent. He came to terms with York/BC on what his scholarship would entail and then took his ball and went home when BC rightfully gave more money to a better player. Here are the quotes from Cody himself:
"When I first went in," Ferriero said, "they offered me a two-year (scholarship) but they said if things changed I'd be considered for more money."
The key word there is obviously CONSIDERED.
He then contradicted himself:
"I was always told if I come in and play well I would get more money"
If that's the case Cody, why didn't you just show up and play?
"I asked them where I would be on the depth chart and I was told there were 12-13 guys including me who would be competing. I was looking for a more straightforward answer than that"
What answer was he looking for? That he'd be guaranteed to play top six minutes all year long no matter what happened? That's absurd. The fact he showed no willingness to want to come in and compete tells me a lot about him.
This concept of "leaving for a better deal" in July when you've already made a solid commitment is mind boggling. Nothing was ever taken away from Cody Ferriero. Leaving for a better deal a couple months before the season starts just isn't right IMO.
I took PPGuru's post below to say that even though NU fans are more upset with their own administration that they're still at least a little upset that BC landed Gaudreau. To me, this really is the same thing as Ferriero de-committing from BC. Both players chose to de-commit. Unless Cronin had some talks with Ferriero prior to his de-committment from BC, I have no ill will towards NU.
Ferriero was never guaranteed the money that Hayes ended up getting. It's not like Cody was a free agent. He came to terms with York/BC on what his scholarship would entail and then took his ball and went home when BC rightfully gave more money to a better player. Here are the quotes from Cody himself:
"When I first went in," Ferriero said, "they offered me a two-year (scholarship) but they said if things changed I'd be considered for more money."
The key word there is obviously CONSIDERED.
He then contradicted himself:
"I was always told if I come in and play well I would get more money"
If that's the case Cody, why didn't you just show up and play?
"I asked them where I would be on the depth chart and I was told there were 12-13 guys including me who would be competing. I was looking for a more straightforward answer than that"
What answer was he looking for? That he'd be guaranteed to play top six minutes all year long no matter what happened? That's absurd. The fact he showed no willingness to want to come in and compete tells me a lot about him.
This concept of "leaving for a better deal" in July when you've already made a solid commitment is mind boggling. Nothing was ever taken away from Cody Ferriero. Leaving for a better deal a couple months before the season starts just isn't right IMO.
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Apologies, J.D. Poor phrasing on my part. Really nothing done wrong on BC's part in the Gaudreau situation. Just as there was nothing done wrong on NU's part in the Ferriero situation. I was trying to reply to Onion Man and I could have done a better job of it. Both players left for their own reasons. Neither school is at fault for recruiting a player that is available to be recruited.
Apologies, J.D. Poor phrasing on my part. Really nothing done wrong on BC's part in the Gaudreau situation. Just as there was nothing done wrong on NU's part in the Ferriero situation. I was trying to reply to Onion Man and I could have done a better job of it. Both players left for their own reasons. Neither school is at fault for recruiting a player that is available to be recruited.
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Nobody said he cannot be successful, he is just going to have to prove it alot quicker then someone with experience would. Imagine if this team does suck this coming year, and a kid like Bitetto jumps ship because of it, along with Quailer and whoever else. We are right back to where we started pre-Cronin, except we are going to have to wait the obligatory 5 more seasons before anyone pulls the strings.
It will be the Tim Army situation, NU version.
Ryecheers can pin the blame on the AD all he wants. Fact is Cronin was going to bolt at some point, Roby in charge or not, and he took a better job. The problem is with the "national" search that came up with a guy who has not coached in 18 years as the answer, especially when you had a guy behind the bench already who was primed and ready to take over.
The proof will be in the first few recruits to come through the door with this coaching staff, and what happens on the ice this winter.
Take a look at this years and next years Brown and Harvard recruiting class. Anybody on their that is going to make for the loss of Darcy?
Nobody said he cannot be successful, he is just going to have to prove it alot quicker then someone with experience would. Imagine if this team does suck this coming year, and a kid like Bitetto jumps ship because of it, along with Quailer and whoever else. We are right back to where we started pre-Cronin, except we are going to have to wait the obligatory 5 more seasons before anyone pulls the strings.
It will be the Tim Army situation, NU version.
Ryecheers can pin the blame on the AD all he wants. Fact is Cronin was going to bolt at some point, Roby in charge or not, and he took a better job. The problem is with the "national" search that came up with a guy who has not coached in 18 years as the answer, especially when you had a guy behind the bench already who was primed and ready to take over.
The proof will be in the first few recruits to come through the door with this coaching staff, and what happens on the ice this winter.
Take a look at this years and next years Brown and Harvard recruiting class. Anybody on their that is going to make for the loss of Darcy?
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Why would they leave Brown/Harvard to go to Northeastern??
Why would they leave Brown/Harvard to go to Northeastern??
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They are both Hockey East guys looking to get out of the ECACHL and back to Hockey East? I wonder why the Brown guy was not on the shortlist for a PC assistant job? If he has done such a great job of recruiting Brown, you would think the place where he played would come calling to at least have one alumni on the staff.
They are both Hockey East guys looking to get out of the ECACHL and back to Hockey East? I wonder why the Brown guy was not on the shortlist for a PC assistant job? If he has done such a great job of recruiting Brown, you would think the place where he played would come calling to at least have one alumni on the staff.
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SkinsFan09
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Re: Northeastern Huskies Offseason (Discipline: let's find it)
Not officially but that'll probably be made news soon given the events of the last few weeks.
Not officially but that'll probably be made news soon given the events of the last few weeks.
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Re: Northeastern Huskies Offseason (Discipline: let's find it)
Mike McMahon of the Eagle Tribune's reporting that he's decommited.
Mike McMahon of the Eagle Tribune's reporting that he's decommited.
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Re: Northeastern Huskies Offseason (Discipline: let's find it)
Well, there ya go.
When will the platelets finally gather in this cut? And more importantly, when will the new skin form. Gillies so far hasn't decommitted and since this program is only elite when they have an elite goalie, that's the only semi-decent news lately. Sigh, even for someone who is used to far worse sports-wise, this is depressing.
Well, there ya go.
When will the platelets finally gather in this cut? And more importantly, when will the new skin form. Gillies so far hasn't decommitted and since this program is only elite when they have an elite goalie, that's the only semi-decent news lately. Sigh, even for someone who is used to far worse sports-wise, this is depressing.
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Shouldn't the decommit come before the boy starts visiting other schools?
Shouldn't the decommit come before the boy starts visiting other schools?
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Re: Northeastern Huskies Offseason (Discipline: let's find it)
Boards are almost up.
Boards are almost up.