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Nice Plant #7: Get me off of this planet

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Thanks for pointing out the typo.

The guy didn't get off because of temporary insanity, he got off because of a lack of physical evidence. And generally temporary insanity doesn't get you off scot-free and might get you a plea deal at best. That is if you have an actual mental illness.
 
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trixR4kids said:
Jaywalking justifies 2nd degree murder, got it! Thanks!

There's no evidence that he engaged in a physical confrontation with the cop other than he may have gotten choked and ran away from him. Oh and the stuff the guy who killed him claims.
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Yes, coz that's what I said.

You see where it says "Registered User" under your name?

Go ahead and change that to "Melodramatic Internet Hysteria Queen."

You've earned it.
 
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trixR4kids said:
Thanks for pointing out the typo.

The guy didn't get off because of temporary insanity, he got off because of a lack of physical evidence. And generally temporary insanity doesn't get you off scot-free and might get you a plea deal at best. That is if you have an actual mental illness.
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Which you probably have, given your banter in this thread in the past couple of weeks.
 
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You know why you brought up the jaywalking, we all do. Despite the fact that it literally happens everyday in every major city and is hardly an issue, it's extremely relevant here because he brought attention to himself.

Brenthoven said:
Which you probably have, given your banter in this thread in the past couple of weeks.
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Another personal insult hurled. Hopefully you feel better now!
 
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Gurtholfin said:
Maybe had daddy been there he could have told his kid to get the heck out of the middle of the street so as not to draw unwanted attention and coz it's an arse-pain for drivers and then he could have told his kid to just do what he's being told and not argue and get out of the middle of the street.

Then maybe he could have told his kid to not engage in a physical confrontation with an armed cop, coz, you know that might not turn out so well.
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Yeah, it's been well documented that there was a struggle and Wilson suffered an orbital fracture. http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/43762_Dumbest_Man_on_the_Internet_Forgets_to_Delete_the_Unedited_Version_of_the_Image_He_Edited
 
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trixR4kids said:
Thanks for pointing out the typo.

The guy didn't get off because of temporary insanity, he got off because of a lack of physical evidence. And generally temporary insanity doesn't get you off scot-free and might get you a plea deal at best. That is if you have an actual mental illness.
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Congratulations for missing the point. Again. I was making no comment on this case, whether or not he was justified or why he was acquitted. I was challenging your comparison of two different situations.
 
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MinnesotaNorthStar said:
Congratulations for missing the point. Again. I was making no comment on this case, whether or not he was justified or why he was acquitted. I was challenging your comparison of two different situations.
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But, but, but...

Michael Brown!

No justice, no peace!
 
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MinnesotaNorthStar said:
Congratulations for missing the point. Again. I was making no comment on this case, whether or not he was justified or why he was acquitted. I was challenging your comparison of two different situations.
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The differences hardly matter so pointing out that they exist (which I knew full well that they did when posting that) seems kinda pointless.
 
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MinnesotaNorthStar said:
No, you didn't.
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The guy didn't get off because of temporary insanity, he got off because of a lack of physical evidence. And generally temporary insanity doesn't get you off scot-free and might get you a plea deal at best. That is if you have an actual mental illness.
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You can't just claim temp insanity anytime you decide to kill someone after something tragic happens (and use it to get away with murder). Anymore than you can claim it after you kill someone after taking drugs/alcohol.
 
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My take on the Texas case is this. If the father witnessed his children killed by this drunk driver had then reached into his car, and in front of a bunch of witnesses, shot the guy dead, the jury would probably have convicted him. It would likely have been of some sort of lesser charge, based upon the passion or emotion involved. The jury would have felt terrible about it, but I believe they would have done it.

However, as I understand the case that was presented, there was some lack of direct evidence connecting the father to the crime. He certainly had a motive. There was no weapon found. I don't think anyone saw him shoot the guy. I think there was some relevant evidence like similar ammunition in the father's house, or something.

Do I think he killed the guy? Of course. Are we supposed to believe some random stranger happened upon the scene and did it? Do I think he had a right to be angry? Yes. Do I think it's right he took the law into his own hands? Of course not.

But the diminished evidence in this case (no witnesses, no weapon) gave the jury an "out" that they took, out of sympathy for the father. It's not right, but it's the system we have and I'm not going to lose a ton of sleep over it. It's also not the first time a jury has done this, or the last.
 
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trixR4kids said:
You can't just claim temp insanity anytime you decide to kill someone after something tragic happens. Anymore than you can claim it after you kill someone after taking drugs/alcohol.
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Sure you can. Like you said, usually gets a reduced charge, if true. Drugs/alcohol never gets you that.

That's an explanation of why the difference didn't matter to you. Legally speaking, they matter. So tell me again how doing hallucinogens and killing someone is basically the same as killing someone who killed your kids in front of you.
 
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MinnesotaNorthStar said:
Sure you can. Like you said, usually gets a reduced charge, if true.
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If you have a legitimate mental illness. Not if you just killed a guy because you were angry (not trying to trivialize but at the most basic level, that's what happened here).

Drugs/alcohol never gets you that.
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Neither does anger.

Legally speaking, they matter.
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If there is a legitimate mental illness involved.
 
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If the drunk driver left family behind, are they now free to kill the man who killed their loved one? (assuming they throw the gun in the ocean)
 
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Priceless said:
If the drunk driver left family behind, are they now free to kill the man who killed their loved one? (assuming they throw the gun in the ocean)
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Only within the first hour of hearing about it.

The Greeks figured this all out in the Orestia 2500 years ago. Too bad nobody reads anymore.
 
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