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Nice Planet, Part 2: A-holes on parade

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Whoever made the decision to suspend the girl is a moron, but hiring a lawyer? Good grief.
 
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Old Pio said:
Remember the viral video from a few years ago of a first grader going ape in a school office somewhere (Florida?) and the several adults just stood around and watched as this child terrorized them? All you have to do is just snatch her up and plop her down in a chair. But no. I don't recall if they called SWAT, but I wouldn't be surprised.
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Unfortunately, that's not surprising. I had a friend who was a substitute teacher get in trouble for grabbing a disruptive student by the wrist and leading him back to his seat. In our over-reactive, sue everyone society, she had "assaulted" the kid.
 
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wolverineTrumpet said:
Unfortunately, that's not surprising. I had a friend who was a substitute teacher get in trouble for grabbing a disruptive student by the wrist and leading him back to his seat. In our over-reactive, sue everyone society, she had "assaulted" the kid.
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Who lives in the east 'neath the willow tree? Sexual harassment... panda!
 
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bigblue_dl said:
Wow, and I thought it was bad when the school made the rule that we couldn't even have a cased and unloaded gun in our trucks IN THE PARKING LOT.
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Speaking of which, there was a Texas case a while back where the valedictorian was helping grandma move. A bread knife slid out of one of the boxes. Nobody noticed. Except for "officer friendly" who saw it in the bed of the kid's truck on Monday. He was in trouble up to his lips. They weren't going to let him "walk" during commencement, etc. IIRC it was resolved in the kid's favor.

Evidently there's a rule which requires "zero tolerance" weapons policies to be "zero common sense" as well. Same with "zero tolerance" drug policies. Any policy which can't distinguish between a KFC spork and an RPG or between an aspirin and a brick of heroin is a total waste of time.
 
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Old Pio said:
Speaking of which, there was a Texas case a while back where the valedictorian was helping grandma move. A bread knife slid out of one of the boxes. Nobody noticed. Except for "officer friendly" who saw it in the bed of the kid's truck on Monday. He was in trouble up to his lips. They weren't going to let him "walk" during commencement, etc. IIRC it was resolved in the kid's favor.

Evidently there's a rule which requires "zero tolerance" weapons policies to be "zero common sense" as well. Same with "zero tolerance" drug policies. Any policy which can't distinguish between a KFC spork and an RPG or between an aspirin and a brick of heroin is a total waste of time.
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Forget walking, he was expelled! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/650967/posts

We've seen similar issues with steak knives. I bet if I bring in a butter knife for my peanut butter and jelly sandwich, I'd be thrown out of school as well.
 
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Old Pio said:
What's this "discretion" referred to? I don't understand.
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Extenuating circumstances, such as this lack of knowledge of what's in your vehicle. Which I think is BS, anyway. If you can't be bothered to look in your truck bed when you're at your grandma's house to notice that something of hers dropped out, you're obviously not taking good care of her possessions. Was it an accident that it ended up there? Perhaps. Was the punishment cruel and unusual? I can't answer that question, considering it's their establishment.
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
Extenuating circumstances, such as this lack of knowledge of what's in your vehicle. Which I think is BS, anyway. If you can't be bothered to look in your truck bed when you're at your grandma's house to notice that something of hers dropped out, you're obviously not taking good care of her possessions. Was it an accident that it ended up there? Perhaps. Was the punishment cruel and unusual? I can't answer that question, considering it's their establishment.
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I was being sarcastic, with the claimed lack of discretion school officials have. Being unable to differentiate between a bread knife in the bed of a pickup and an AK-47 in a backpack. Sadly, it appears you're serious. In the case at hand, I'm inclined to give the benefit of the doubt to an honor student, just on general principles. Why jump to the conclusion that he "couldn't be bothered to look"? You've never overlooked anything? "Obviously not taking good care of her possessions." Obvious to you perhaps, from your ring side seat a couple of time zones away. But not to me. And you doubt the knife was left in the truck accidentally? What other plausible explanation could there be?
 
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Nice Planet meets Justice Served.

Some jerks decide to throw snowballs at a guy that's just doing his job and minding his business. They forgot that he has a gigantic hose at his disposal...

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Old Pio said:
I was being sarcastic, with the claimed lack of discretion school officials have. Being unable to differentiate between a bread knife in the bed of a pickup and an AK-47 in a backpack. Sadly, it appears you're serious. In the case at hand, I'm inclined to give the benefit of the doubt to an honor student, just on general principles. Why jump to the conclusion that he "couldn't be bothered to look"? You've never overlooked anything? "Obviously not taking good care of her possessions." Obvious to you perhaps, from your ring side seat a couple of time zones away. But not to me. And you doubt the knife was left in the truck accidentally? What other plausible explanation could there be?
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I'm not doubting it was left there accidentally; I never did doubt that. It'd seem like, at least in my point of view, it'd be tough to miss, especially if someone else was easily able to catch it. I doubt that he had to bring stuff in to grandma and then immediately rush to school. There was likely a day or two for buffer in there. Sure, I don't search my vehicle for that sort of stuff 24/7, but if I'm handling something that is foreign in my vehicle, I'm going to check again to make sure I picked up everything.

I can fully understand your reasoning for benefit of the doubt. Unfortunately, when a state has a "zero tolerance" policy for that sort of thing, rules are rules. You possess something that is classified as a weapon, you're outta there. Is it being a donkey? Certainly. They wanted those security rules, though, so they get them, and everything that goes with them.
 
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