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Nice Planet, Part 2: A-holes on parade

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FlagDUDE08 said:
As much as some of us don't agree with Slick Willie's politics, you gotta admit he has good taste in some areas... http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...-clinton-checks-out-kelly-clarksons-backside/
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What a scumbag. I mean, look at how that redhead is clearly ogling Kelly Clarkson!

Seriously, though, how do we know that someone isn't holding a corn dog slightly off camera?
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
I'm not doubting it was left there accidentally; I never did doubt that. It'd seem like, at least in my point of view, it'd be tough to miss, especially if someone else was easily able to catch it. I doubt that he had to bring stuff in to grandma and then immediately rush to school. There was likely a day or two for buffer in there. Sure, I don't search my vehicle for that sort of stuff 24/7, but if I'm handling something that is foreign in my vehicle, I'm going to check again to make sure I picked up everything.

I can fully understand your reasoning for benefit of the doubt. Unfortunately, when a state has a "zero tolerance" policy for that sort of thing, rules are rules. You possess something that is classified as a weapon, you're outta there. Is it being a donkey? Certainly. They wanted those security rules, though, so they get them, and everything that goes with them.
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"I never did doubt that it was left there accidentally." Really? From the man who wrote: ". . .this lack of knowledge of what's in your vehicle. Which I think is BS, anyway"?

It's a moronic policy, but it's our moronic policy, eh? And it's certainly too bad this kid wasn't as fastidious as you are. This whole stupid incident wouldn't have happened, would it?

The suggestion is this couldn't have happened to you. By inference, then, we are to conclude the boy was derelict in his duty to periodically search his truck for something "foreign." One assumes you've never misplaced the remote or your glasses or your wallet, or your keys or anything else. And subsequently found these objects someplace where they didn't belong, or were "foreign."
 
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Old Pio said:
"I never did doubt that it was left there accidentally." Really? From the man who wrote: ". . .this lack of knowledge of what's in your vehicle. Which I think is BS, anyway"?

It's a moronic policy, but it's our moronic policy, eh? And it's certainly too bad this kid wasn't as fastidious as you are. This whole stupid incident wouldn't have happened, would it?

The suggestion is this couldn't have happened to you. By inference, then, we are to conclude the boy was derelict in his duty to periodically search his truck for something "foreign." One assumes you've never misplaced the remote or your glasses or your wallet, or your keys or anything else. And subsequently found these objects someplace where they didn't belong, or were "foreign."
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Don't turn into the libstains on the board by assuming negative cases or cutting words from what I say and effectively changing context. I said the extenuating circumstances were BS, especially given the law as it is written. If people in the state want to look into changing the policy to allow for extenuating circumstances, so be it, but if it is the policy, there's not much you can do about it. I'm looking at this from a completely neutral standpoint. Think of it as if I were a judge hearing this suit and was responsible for making a ruling. The law states that intent is presently a moot point.

Don't assume that I meant he intentionally left the bread knife there, because I never said anything of the sort. Also, you're once again making the assumption that he needs to know 24/7 what's in his truck. I said that checking once he carries something in belonging to someone else to make sure he didn't forget something is what is to be done. If we entrust someone to that, that's something we would expect, or at least we'd be wise enough to ask the question.
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
Don't turn into the libstains on the board by assuming negative cases or cutting words from what I say and effectively changing context. I said the extenuating circumstances were BS, especially given the law as it is written. If people in the state want to look into changing the policy to allow for extenuating circumstances, so be it, but if it is the policy, there's not much you can do about it. I'm looking at this from a completely neutral standpoint. Think of it as if I were a judge hearing this suit and was responsible for making a ruling. The law states that intent is presently a moot point.

Don't assume that I meant he intentionally left the bread knife there, because I never said anything of the sort. Also, you're once again making the assumption that he needs to know 24/7 what's in his truck. I said that checking once he carries something in belonging to someone else to make sure he didn't forget something is what is to be done. If we entrust someone to that, that's something we would expect, or at least we'd be wise enough to ask the question.
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You're the one who's arguing like a libstain. Making all sorts of assumptions about this kid. "Rules are rules?" It's a stupid rule. Stupidly enforced. By stupid people. Don't be so quick to imply laws, ordinances and regulations can't be stupid. In its haste to pass some sort of "gun control" legislation after Newtown, lawmakers in New York forgot to give law enforcement a waiver on magazine capacity regulations. Oops. And in your zeal to put this kid in his place, you overlook an obvious explanation: He did look in the bed of his pickup but missed the knife. Which you wouldn't have, of course.

Any policy which cannot or will not differentiate between a kid with a butter knife in his truck and Adam Lanza is a policy which needs some tweaking. Why is it so hard for you to admit that? And to admit what happened to this kid was a gross miscarriage?
 
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Biddco said:
What started off as a touching story (yet sad) has really made me mad. This is a disturbing trend of people looking through obits or other news sites, learning about who has died and then robbing their vacant housing. So sad and so depressing.

http://wearegreenbay.com/1fulltext-news-roadtrip?nxd_id=173202
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If only we could cherry pick situations to apply Sharia law. There are lots of "professionals" out there, running their scams. For instance, never put your home address on your luggage. There are people who scout the terminals, and when they see prosperous looking people, with designer luggage, who have home addresses in upscale neighborhoods listed, they're on the 'phone to their confederates. And the neighbors pay no attention as a "cable" truck pulls up to the target home and whatever isn't nailed down gets hauled off.

I've mentioned my father's buddy. A Navy fighter pilot in the big war, who was very successful and who customarily carried a pistol when he walked his dog late at night (adjacent to a forest preserve). On one occasion as he was coming back up his driveway, Bud saw a guy exiting the house. After the burglar refused Bud's command to stop, Bud shot him in the a*s. The local constabulary arrested him for discharging a weapon and he was booked and photographed, weaaring a tuxedo. Once the details were learned, Bud was freed (although he had those bookng photos enlarged and hung behind his rumpus room bar) and ultimately he was put on the town's police commission. Which meant on those late night walks he was carrying a gun and a badge!
 
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Crooks hitting the recently-deceased has been going on for years. The old scam was to troll the obits and hit the house during the funeral. I remember the advice from years ago to have someone skip the funeral and hang out at the house.

Along the same lines...
 
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UncleRay said:
Crooks hitting the recently-deceased has been going on for years. The old scam was to troll the obits and hit the house during the funeral. I remember the advice from years ago to have someone skip the funeral and hang out at the house.
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Bonus points if it's the precocious 8-year-old and he sets up a bunch of whimsical booby traps out of household objects to cause pain and anguish to the burglars.
 
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Old Pio said:
You're the one who's arguing like a libstain. Making all sorts of assumptions about this kid. "Rules are rules?" It's a stupid rule. Stupidly enforced. By stupid people. Don't be so quick to imply laws, ordinances and regulations can't be stupid. In its haste to pass some sort of "gun control" legislation after Newtown, lawmakers in New York forgot to give law enforcement a waiver on magazine capacity regulations. Oops. And in your zeal to put this kid in his place, you overlook an obvious explanation: He did look in the bed of his pickup but missed the knife. Which you wouldn't have, of course.

Any policy which cannot or will not differentiate between a kid with a butter knife in his truck and Adam Lanza is a policy which needs some tweaking. Why is it so hard for you to admit that? And to admit what happened to this kid was a gross miscarriage?
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OP, nowhere did I say that the law wasn't stupid and didn't need to be changed. Stupid or not, though, it's still technically on the books as the law. There's no point in arguing with me about the desirability of the law, because you aren't going to get much of a disagreement. If he did look again and missed it, sometimes those things do happen. I'm sure all of us would generally see this as an extenuating circumstance. The letter of the law does not, unfortunately, and so the actions in accordance with that law took place. Also, because neither of us live in Texas, about the only thing we can do is bring attention to it in hopes that someone brings up an initiative. Your complaints from a standpoint of emotion are just as important as my explanation of the process that took place, because only then can one seek to make an amendment.
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
OP, nowhere did I say that the law wasn't stupid and didn't need to be changed. Stupid or not, though, it's still technically on the books as the law. There's no point in arguing with me about the desirability of the law, because you aren't going to get much of a disagreement. If he did look again and missed it, sometimes those things do happen. I'm sure all of us would generally see this as an extenuating circumstance. The letter of the law does not, unfortunately, and so the actions in accordance with that law took place. Also, because neither of us live in Texas, about the only thing we can do is bring attention to it in hopes that someone brings up an initiative. Your complaints from a standpoint of emotion are just as important as my explanation of the process that took place, because only then can one seek to make an amendment.
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I'd like to nominate this post for the prig hall of fame. If elected, winners receive the coveted "golden clip board."
 
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Twitch Boy said:
Bonus points if it's the precocious 8-year-old and he sets up a bunch of whimsical booby traps out of household objects to cause pain and anguish to the burglars.
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But only if there's a creepy next door neighbour to bail him out. ;)
 
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Assuming these stories are true, it's fair to ask the question: have our school officials taken leave of their senses? We have little boys punished for "shooting" finger guns. A 5-year old suspended after an adult ratted for out for "threatening" to shoot her mates with a bubble gun. An hysterical adult "runs to mom" and initiates a creaking, wheezing "anti-terrorism protocol. Who on earth is the "adult" who witnesses this child's play and takes it seriously enough to rat on the little girl? Now we have another elementary school girl up to her lips in trouble because of a paper "gun." Newtown was bad enough, but do we have to turn every little kid into the next Adam Lanza? I smell more "zero tolerance" policies at work here.

http://www.myfoxphilly.com/story/20...nt-too-far-punishing-child-for-paper-airplane
 
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Old Pio said:
Assuming these stories are true, it's fair to ask the question: have our school officials taken leave of their senses? We have little boys punished for "shooting" finger guns. A 5-year old suspended after an adult ratted for out for "threatening" to shoot her mates with a bubble gun. An hysterical adult "runs to mom" and initiates a creaking, wheezing "anti-terrorism protocol. Who on earth is the "adult" who witnesses this child's play and takes it seriously enough to rat on the little girl? Now we have another elementary school girl up to her lips in trouble because of a paper "gun." Newtown was bad enough, but do we have to turn every little kid into the next Adam Lanza? I smell more "zero tolerance" policies at work here.

http://www.myfoxphilly.com/story/20...nt-too-far-punishing-child-for-paper-airplane
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Searched her in front of her class? Even the TSA will usually take you some where private...
 
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Old Pio said:
Assuming these stories are true, it's fair to ask the question: have our school officials taken leave of their senses? We have little boys punished for "shooting" finger guns. A 5-year old suspended after an adult ratted for out for "threatening" to shoot her mates with a bubble gun. An hysterical adult "runs to mom" and initiates a creaking, wheezing "anti-terrorism protocol. Who on earth is the "adult" who witnesses this child's play and takes it seriously enough to rat on the little girl? Now we have another elementary school girl up to her lips in trouble because of a paper "gun." Newtown was bad enough, but do we have to turn every little kid into the next Adam Lanza? I smell more "zero tolerance" policies at work here.

http://www.myfoxphilly.com/story/20...nt-too-far-punishing-child-for-paper-airplane
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Unfortunately, this is what happens when you demand laws after something happens. The only way to enforce it is through "zero tolerance", because "they just don't know". Granted this is in Philly, but in rural towns like where I grew up, parents would do this just to get back at someone because either their child was picked on, or even worse, they were picked on by the child's parents.

Is it asinine? Absolutely!
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
Unfortunately, this is what happens when you demand laws after something happens. The only way to enforce it is through "zero tolerance", because "they just don't know". Granted this is in Philly, but in rural towns like where I grew up, parents would do this just to get back at someone because either their child was picked on, or even worse, they were picked on by the child's parents.

Is it asinine? Absolutely!
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Isn't it time we realize that the world cannot be perfected with more rules, regulations, laws and ordinances? It's like the ridiculous notion of not keeping score in age group soccer. It's not like the kids don't know they're getting shelled. The first clue might be the goalie, who's showing signs of PTSD.
 
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