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Nice Planet, Part 2: A-holes on parade

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School administrators and parents are wrestling with how to respond to news that some male high school athletes created a statistics-based fantasy league that awarded points when girls the boys "drafted" were rumored to have engaged in sexual activity.

High School Fantasy Slut League.

Yeah, somebody is going to be in trouble for this.
 
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bigmrg74 said:
School administrators and parents are wrestling with how to respond to news that some male high school athletes created a statistics-based fantasy league that awarded points when girls the boys "drafted" were rumored to have engaged in sexual activity.

High School Fantasy Slut League.

Yeah, somebody is going to be in trouble for this.
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This is Bill Simmons' fault. Have you read Grantland? They start fantasy leagues for everything imaginable. They have a reality TV league (score points when someone exhibits typical reality TV behaviors) and a bad quarterback league (score points when your team's QB wets the bed.)
 
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Old Pio said:
That would call for another tool. The 30,000 pound Massive Ordinance Penetrator. A precision, satellite guided weapon that can be carried by a B-2. Actually, each retro-fitted B-2 can carry two of those bad boys. We have announced (and I have posted) that the weapon is operational. Man, you don't want to be in the break room at Natanz when one of those guys hits. Spoil your whole lunch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ-caPvqIf8

Seems a little strange to use the word "precision" in the same sentence with "30,000 bomb" doesn't it?
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Gee, 60 years later, and we could only go 10,000 lbs better?? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Slam_(bomb)
 
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joecct said:
Gee, 60 years later, and we could only go 10,000 lbs better?? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Slam_(bomb)
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Only about 2.5 tons of explosive in the MOP. The trick is to have it penetrate an ungodly amount of reinforced concrete and then explode. Being able to thread the needle with this weapon is icing on the cake.

The Grand Slam was definitely impressive. Especially for its day. IIRC, the Brits used somewhat smaller tall boys to blow the bottom out of the Tirpitz.

In the first Gulf War we employed the "daisy cutter." The much newer and more powerful MOAB had not yet been developed. The tactic we used was to leaflet a section of the Iraqi line, advising them that at a specified time on a specified day we were going to drop the most powerful non-nuclear weapon in the world on their heads. After detonating the weapon, we'd leaflet another section of the Iraqi line advising them that the hellacious explosion they saw the day before was going to be repeated on them, tomorrow. Not exactly a morale builder.

Newsweek (a magazine people actually used to read) reported that the Brits had an SAS guy deep undercover when one of those bad boys went off. He was so startled and impressed he screamed into his radio: "The Yanks have gone nuclear." And the MOAB is much, much more powerful. It, too, is a precision weapon.
 
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It is disappointing that we have rained more hell down on those backwards, goat ****ing, pieces of trash.
 
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It is disappointing that we have rained more hell down on those backwards, goat ****ing, pieces of trash.
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I lose sleep every night. Remember, in the runup to the first Gulf War, 60 Minutes did a segment about how the Apaches were "hangar queens," too complicated and finicky to operate effectively in the harsh desert environment. I'm guessing all those Iraqi troops blown to h*ll on the Basra Highway would beg to differ. The combination of the Apaches and the Warthogs was evidently epic.

I saw a piece about what military assets were available and might have been employed in Benghazi. One was the AC130 gun ship. Described as "being effective against crowds." Talk about understatement. This thing employs mini-guns, Bofors 40mm cannon and 105mm howitzers. With state of the art target acquisition, aiming and radars. In the invasion of Panama I read about an instance where US troops were taking fire from the 6th story of some building. An AC130 turned it into a 5 story building. Problem solved.
 
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Old Pio said:
I lose sleep every night. Remember, in the runup to the first Gulf War, 60 Minutes did a segment about how the Apaches were "hangar queens," too complicated and finicky to operate effectively in the harsh desert environment. I'm guessing all those Iraqi troops blown to h*ll on the Basra Highway would beg to differ. The combination of the Apaches and the Warthogs was evidently epic.

I saw a piece about what military assets were available and might have been employed in Benghazi. One was an AC130 gun ship. Described as "being effective against crowds." Talk about understatement. This thing employs mini-guns, Bofors 40mm cannon and 105mm howitzers. With state of the art target acquisition and radars. In the invasion of Panama I read about an instance where US troops were taking fire from the 6th story of some building. An AC130 turned it into a 5 story building. Problem solved.
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Oops, I made a terrible typo on my phone. I meant to say "haven't rained more hell". I wish we would have sent them even further back than the stone age they still live in.
 
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Old Pio said:
I lose sleep every night. Remember, in the runup to the first Gulf War, 60 Minutes did a segment about how the Apaches were "hangar queens," too complicated and finicky to operate effectively in the harsh desert environment. I'm guessing all those Iraqi troops blown to h*ll on the Basra Highway would beg to differ. The combination of the Apaches and the Warthogs was evidently epic.

I saw a piece about what military assets were available and might have been employed in Benghazi. One was an AC130 gun ship. Described as "being effective against crowds." Talk about understatement. This thing employs mini-guns, Bofors 40mm cannon and 105mm howitzers. With state of the art target acquisition, aiming and radars. In the invasion of Panama I read about an instance where US troops were taking fire from the 6th story of some building. An AC130 turned it into a 5 story building. Problem solved.
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100% agree. A-10s, AH-64s, and the AC-130 are all BAD. ***.
 
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MinnesotaNorthStar said:
100% agree. A-10s, AH-64s, and the AC-130 are all BAD. ***.
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Back in the 80's (before the USSR imploded) I recall a piece in Forbes (IIRC) that pointed out militarily we were in the same position as Nazi Germany. Relying on leaps in technology, which in Germany's case, arrived on the battlefield too late or were improperly employed, to affect the outcome. We buried Germany in our less advanced, but far more numerous weapons. Their tanks were better. Their jets fighters were better. Their Type XXI U-boats were better. And they had missiles. But all of this came too late. Or, like the ME262, was employed stupidly. Idiot Hitler (thank God) wanted the Swallow to be a "blitz bomber" rather than a grim reaper air superiority weapon to just chew our bomber fleets to h*ll.

Conversely, the US faced an enemy in Cold War days who had vastly numerically superior conventional forces. We were relying on our technical superiority to blunt any Soviet invasion. Clancy's "Red Storm Rising" touched on this, and he had us using the F-117, and Ivan never knew what hit him.

Going forward, we need to continue our R & D, to make sure we anticipate whatever a potential enemy might throw at us. And to be able to deal a pre-emptive devastating blow when needed. That's why I'm so high on Prompt Global Strike. This costs lots of money. How much is peace of mind worth?
 
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bigblue_dl said:
Oops, I made a terrible typo on my phone. I meant to say "haven't rained more hell". I wish we would have sent them even further back than the stone age they still live in.
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Your intent was clear, from the rest of the post. :)
 
Old Pio said:
I lose sleep every night. Remember, in the runup to the first Gulf War, 60 Minutes did a segment about how the Apaches were "hangar queens," too complicated and finicky to operate effectively in the harsh desert environment. I'm guessing all those Iraqi troops blown to h*ll on the Basra Highway would beg to differ. The combination of the Apaches and the Warthogs was evidently epic.

I saw a piece about what military assets were available and might have been employed in Benghazi. One was the AC130 gun ship. Described as "being effective against crowds." Talk about understatement. This thing employs mini-guns, Bofors 40mm cannon and 105mm howitzers. With state of the art target acquisition, aiming and radars. In the invasion of Panama I read about an instance where US troops were taking fire from the 6th story of some building. An AC130 turned it into a 5 story building. Problem solved.
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Several spec ops types are saying that there likely was a Spectre gunship on station.

http://www.blackfive.net/main/2012/10/bigger-than-watergate-proof-that-the-president-is-lying-about-benghazi.html
 
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SteveP said:
Several spec ops types are saying that there likely was a Spectre gunship on station.

http://www.blackfive.net/main/2012/...at-the-president-is-lying-about-benghazi.html
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I think you meant SPECTRE
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SteveP said:
Indeed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KrmgZR_jPg&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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If an AC-130 was on station. And if, as has been suggested, it was not utilized out of some concern about "violating Libyan air space," then that would truly put this event in the category of Watergate as far as presidential scandals are concerned. Any consulate or embassy is soverign territory (which the host country by treaty is obliged to protect). Any attack on a diplomatic facility is legally the same as an attack on US soil. And we have the right (not to mention the obligation) to respond in any way we believe is appropriate. The attack on Benghazi went on for 7 hours! We could have intervened at any time and probably saved lives. POTUS sends these people into harm's way and he is responsible for doing what he can to protect them.

When Colonel Gaddafi engineered an explosion at a disco in Germany that took the lives of American GI's I don't recall Reagan having any concerns about "violating Libyan air space" when he sent the FB-111s on a mission to kill the Colonel, or at least get his attention.

The Obama administration is furiously covering up what happened in Benghazi. Trying to run out the clock until after the election. I have reworded what was said about Bush for the case at hand: "Obama DENIED. . .people DIED. . .then he LIED."
 
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Oh the irony. :rolleyes:

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