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Nice planet 4: Take 2. Action!

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Maybe all of these spurned Detroit pensioners can go on the federal teat and be able to buy NHL season tickets several cities away.
 
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bigblue_dl said:
Maybe all of these spurned Detroit pensioners can go on the federal teat and be able to buy NHL season tickets several cities away.
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If you're talking about me, nice try. Unfortunately for you I have private disability insurance. Sorry to deflate your argument. Nice strawman though, mixed with a veiled ad hominem attack...well done.
 
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Mr. Zimmerman rescued a family after their vehicle overturned. By the time deputies arrived, he and another person had pulled the family of 4 out and to safety.
 
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hockeyplayer1015 said:
Mr. Zimmerman rescued a family after their vehicle overturned. By the time deputies arrived, he and another person had pulled the family of 4 out and to safety.
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Or, as it was reported on FARK, Authorities are still considering with what to charge him.
 
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bigblue_dl said:
Shhhhhh, this doesn't follow the approved narative!
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And the "he rescued a family" quote sure fits the George Zimmerman Is An American Hero narrative that some people like to spout. Naturally, people who applaud him for killing Martin are going to take the official story (there were others helping before paramedics arrived, and he's only been reported to have pulled one of the individuals out of the car) and turn it into a single-handed hero type of story.

So let's take the "Zimmerman is a cold-blooded killer" and the "Zimmerman is just such a good guy" bull**** out of the equation and look at it this way:

I was in a car accident once. I didn't roll over, but the truck that t-boned me caused me to do a 180 while I slid into the ditch. I was perfectly fine, but even then the off-duty cop that was the first to my car advised that I not move until the paramedics arrived, just in case there was a neck injury that I couldn't sense due to the adrenaline. Again, this was in a non-rollover kind of crash. Now, I'm sure that a reasonable person could look at a group of people in a car accident, and reasonably decide that it's okay to pull them out. But it's still probably good practice to make sure that the professionals take care of it, in case there is a problem (unless the **** car is on fire, in which case I have to agree that you do what you can instead of twiddling your thumbs).

So, in short, George Zimmerman did the exact opposite of what a first responder would tell him to do, which is the real story with that guy. More than any bull**** about him being some vigilante hero or any other bull**** about murdering Martin in cold blood (we should all get it into our heads that Martin did nothing to deserve being stalked by Zimmerman, but he really didn't make the situation any better by getting physical with him)... he seemingly just has a personality that makes him want to play hero, despite those moments when common sense or a 911 operator would tell him otherwise.
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
As we all know, the tagline of Interstate '76: "Never get out of the car."
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Um, no, we don't all know that one. Is that a movie title or something? Regardless, getting out of your car on any interstate except in case of a breakdown is foolhearted at best.
 
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St. Clown said:
Um, no, we don't all know that one. Is that a movie title or something? Regardless, getting out of your car on any interstate except in case of a breakdown is foolhearted at best.
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PC game, actually. It played out like one of those soul dramas from the 70's, though.
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
PC game, actually. It played out like one of those soul dramas from the 70's, though.
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And it inspired one of the most underrated N64 titles ever, Vigilante 8.

/Boogie and his disco ball will fark your shiat up
 
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ExileOnDaytonStreet said:
And the "he rescued a family" quote sure fits the George Zimmerman Is An American Hero narrative that some people like to spout. Naturally, people who applaud him for killing Martin are going to take the official story (there were others helping before paramedics arrived, and he's only been reported to have pulled one of the individuals out of the car) and turn it into a single-handed hero type of story.

So let's take the "Zimmerman is a cold-blooded killer" and the "Zimmerman is just such a good guy" bull**** out of the equation and look at it this way:

I was in a car accident once. I didn't roll over, but the truck that t-boned me caused me to do a 180 while I slid into the ditch. I was perfectly fine, but even then the off-duty cop that was the first to my car advised that I not move until the paramedics arrived, just in case there was a neck injury that I couldn't sense due to the adrenaline. Again, this was in a non-rollover kind of crash. Now, I'm sure that a reasonable person could look at a group of people in a car accident, and reasonably decide that it's okay to pull them out. But it's still probably good practice to make sure that the professionals take care of it, in case there is a problem (unless the **** car is on fire, in which case I have to agree that you do what you can instead of twiddling your thumbs).

So, in short, George Zimmerman did the exact opposite of what a first responder would tell him to do, which is the real story with that guy. More than any bull**** about him being some vigilante hero or any other bull**** about murdering Martin in cold blood (we should all get it into our heads that Martin did nothing to deserve being stalked by Zimmerman, but he really didn't make the situation any better by getting physical with him)... he seemingly just has a personality that makes him want to play hero, despite those moments when common sense or a 911 operator would tell him otherwise.
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Let's make a list: wanting to be a police officer IS A BAD THING. Rendering assistance to victims of a traffic accident (without the benefit of omniscience, of course) IS A BAD THING. Wanting to help protect your friends and neighbors from roving thugs IS A BAD THING. Mentoring a couple of black kids IS A BAD THING.If we had a justice system that really worked, this guy would have been behind bars long before he encountered "the little child."
 
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Old Pio said:
Wanting to help protect your friends and neighbors from roving thugs IS A BAD THING.
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To be clear, are we talking about Zimmerman's active role in the neighborhood watch, or are we talking about something more specific here?

And also, yes, to my point above: Unless it's painfully obvious that there's no potential of a neck injury from a car crash (not always a safe assumption in the case of a rollover), then it's somewhat reckless to just pull people out of a car that's not on fire. It's considerably more reasonable to make sure that there's nothing life-threatening going on and then keeping them company until professional help arrives. Just like how Zimmerman had any number of reasonable options he could have taken with Martin*, but chose to ignore recommendations from the 911 operator to not pursue.

* Regardless of how Martin chose to respond to the situation- which I'll admit lead to his death considerably more than any profiling that Zimmerman was doing- this is still true, IMO.
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
Sorry OP, stealing a little of your thunder...

Happy birthday to you, happy birthday to *BANG! BANG! BANG!*

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...iolence-july-20-to-21-20130720,0,110934.story
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Will we have another "spontaneous" WH press room ejaculation from the Race Baiter in Chief? Will Attorney General Mortimer Snerd interrupt his jihad against George Zimmerman long enough to notice? Will the Congressional Black Caucus call for hearings? Will MSNBC blame "whitey" for the violence (assuming they mention it at all)?

No, No, No, Yes.
 
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ExileOnDaytonStreet said:
To be clear, are we talking about Zimmerman's active role in the neighborhood watch, or are we talking about something more specific here?

And also, yes, to my point above: Unless it's painfully obvious that there's no potential of a neck injury from a car crash (not always a safe assumption in the case of a rollover), then it's somewhat reckless to just pull people out of a car that's not on fire. It's considerably more reasonable to make sure that there's nothing life-threatening going on and then keeping them company until professional help arrives. Just like how Zimmerman had any number of reasonable options he could have taken with Martin*, but chose to ignore recommendations from the 911 operator to not pursue.

* Regardless of how Martin chose to respond to the situation- which I'll admit lead to his death considerably more than any profiling that Zimmerman was doing- this is still true, IMO.
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What do you think? You're just itching to give us another blast from the "Skillets and Ice Tea" bassoon, aren't you? You've got a narrative in your head. And nothing we learn about GZ will change your mind. That's your right. But you come across as really straining, to offer medical opinions about an incident of which you're totally ignorant. Only angry libstains, who think Zimmerman should have allowed that punk to beat him to death, would find something "bad" about an effort to help accident victims.
 
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Old Pio said:
What do you think? You're just itching to give us another blast from the "Skillets and Ice Tea" bassoon, aren't you?
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The question is directed at you. Perhaps it's just a roundabout way of asking if you viewed Treyvon Martin as a "roving thug", or if your comment on "roving thugs" had nothing to do with his altercation with Martin. That is, in it's own way, I guess, another roundabout question to ask if being young, black, and wearing a hoodie after dusk is an acceptable form of suspicion in your book.

That said: I'll confess that I normally really enjoy your poetic nature when arguing about this kind of thing, but every now and then it really gets in the way of you actually are trying to say. Unless you're trying to imply that you think that Martin wasn't truly just on his way home with Skittles and iced tea, then I have no idea what this "Skillets and Ice Tea bassoon" comment is supposed to be saying. My translator is broken, if you will.
 
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Old Pio said:
But you come across as really straining, to offer medical opinions about an incident of which you're totally ignorant.
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I can tell you that when I was in a car accident, an off duty cop came to my car and the first thing he told me (after reassuring me that he had seen the whole thing and that I wasn't at fault in the accident) was not to try to get myself out until the paramedics could clear me of any potential neck injuries, because the adrenaline of an accident can make people think that they're okay before they try to pull themselves out.

Minus either a life-and-death situation or a painfully obvious "everyone is okay" scenario, I'll take that to the bank as being pretty good reasoning to not help pull people out of an upside-down car.
 
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