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Nice Planet 3: I Can't Believe I Share A Planet With THESE People!

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Proud2baLaker said:
I still disagree with the saying/premise. Perhaps a better thing to say would be "guns MIGHT save lives." But I will also admit that I'm in the "more guns is not the answer" camp...but that doesnt mean Im in the "less guns is not the answer" camp either.

I'm leaving it at that simply because I don't have the patience or the desire to maintain any kind of debate (no matter what the topic) on an internet message board....a few posts is about all I can stand.
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I can agree with that.
 
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Slap Shot said:
How many of those 14 would be dead were it a gun not a knife?

Im not a gun control freak btw but think before you post.
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Possibly none, if someone was armed and saw a gun pulled, and shot the criminal.

Possibly all, if the "good citizen" didn't pull their gun.

Just sayin'.
 
Brenthoven said:
Possibly none, if someone was armed and saw a gun pulled, and shot the criminal.

Possibly all, if the "good citizen" didn't pull their gun.

Just sayin'.
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That's not sayin anything, no offense. Law abiding citizens should have a right to bear arms I'll argue that to no end, but I don't want to hear bulls**t platitudes when a discussion of "why" is at hand.
 
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Slap Shot said:
That's not sayin anything, no offense. Law abiding citizens should have a right to bear arms I'll argue that to no end, but I don't want to hear bulls**t platitudes when a discussion of "why" is at hand.
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Just answering your silly question with an equally silly answer. :)

What if the guy actually knew where to stab with one try? ;)

This knife incident really has no true bearing on any gun discussion, is what I'm saying.
 
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Foxton said:
Guns save lives is an oversimplified platitude parroted by simpletons. It is possible for a gun to save lives but there's an equal possibility that they will escalate the situation and make it infinitely worse.
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Got any evidence to cite on that claim?
 
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And hell, how many of those people would have not been stabbed if one of the first five people stabbed had grabbed a hold of the stabber and struggled with the guy, and a crowd had help to subdue the stabber?? Nobody wants to get involved anymore.
 
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Nutter has taken four firefighters hostage at a house in Atlanta.

ETA: Shots fired. AmbulanceS leaving scene. Ruh roh.

ETA2: Suspect dead, cop injured.

ETA3: Add a firefighter to the injured list. Neither life-threatening.

Wanna know his demands? He wanted his utilities turned back on. Yup.
 
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Funny how the threat of a lawsuit comes up decades later, after justice has already been served, and only after a civilian medal award is proposed which brings attention back to the tragedy. Not to mention that some "activist" has wormed her way into these people's lives, no doubt hoping for her cut of any payouts. Did the government bomb the building? It really took them 50 years to put a dollar amount on the value of their dead family members? Screw 'em.
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
Funny how the threat of a lawsuit comes up decades later, after justice has already been served, and only after a civilian medal award is proposed which brings attention back to the tragedy. Not to mention that some "activist" has wormed her way into these people's lives, no doubt hoping for her cut of any payouts. Did the government bomb the building? It really took them 50 years to put a dollar amount on the value of their dead family members? Screw 'em.
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You've hit on what I consider to be the fatal flaw in their argument: it was the federal government that rounded up citizens of Japanese decent, against whom no charges were ever made, and herded them into concentration camps. Zero due process. In the case at hand, the argument is that racism made it easier and more likely for Klan types to murder blacks. That strikes me as substantially different. To me, this argument sounds like first cousin to a call for "reparations."

Pardon the trip down memory lane, but when Sam Hayakawa was president of San Francisco State (prior to becoming a senator) he had a famous confrontation with a black kid. The kid told Sam he didn't know the meaning of racism, because he'd never been subjected to it. Sam replied that he had a vague idea, given that he and his family were sent to a concentration camp, solely because of their race. In the Senate, Sam got off one of the really great lines during the Panama Canal debates: He said "It's ours, we stole it fair and square."
 
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