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Senior denied diploma because of too much cheering

Superintendent stands by decision

Superintendent refuses to give a student his diploma because there was too much cheering after his name. Instead, he gets a letter from the principal stating that he cannot get his diploma until he and/or his family complete a combined 20 hours of community service.

The video reveals an outbreak of "dot with a circle around it" syndrome by the young man's parents, friends and supporters.
 
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Good grief. He should have graduated from my high school - our ceremony was in the school basketball gym (seats 6,000 people), with spectators wandering the aisles, talking, laughing, throughout the ceremony. I always half expected to see peanut vendors working the crowd. I don't think anyone would have even noticed a little cheering.
 
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Senior denied diploma because of too much cheering

Superintendent stands by decision

Superintendent refuses to give a student his diploma because there was too much cheering after his name. Instead, he gets a letter from the principal stating that he cannot get his diploma until he and/or his family complete a combined 20 hours of community service.

A popular young man at our high school faced something somewhat similar. Students can do skits at a popular annual revue, and he asked ahead of time whether he could perform the dance-off scene from Zoolander, and was given permission. So of course he goes on stage to the tune of Michael Jackson's Beat It and pulls his underwear out of his pants, just like in the movie.

Of course, he is threatened with suspension (for a longer time period than a student who physically assaulted another student was given, no less!), because in the school administrator's mind, he was simulating masturbation (because the administrator did not realize that the song Beat It means "get lost," he somehow thought Beat It meant, you know, beat "it.") The fact that he asked for permission ahead of time and was granted it as well carried no weight at all, since "he should have known better."

Fortunately, many parents rallied around him (they had seen the performance too and were familiar with the movie and song), and his own parents threatened legal action along with an assertive letter-writing campaign to all the local papers, and his suspension was turned into detention.
 
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Good grief. He should have graduated from my high school - our ceremony was in the school basketball gym (seats 6,000 people), with spectators wandering the aisles, talking, laughing, throughout the ceremony. I always half expected to see peanut vendors working the crowd. I don't think anyone would have even noticed a little cheering.

Well, those state industrial schools do have a different vibe, no? :p Seems to me each school can set whatever standards it thinks are appropriate for these occasions, based on history, tradition, parental input and other factors. The way things work these days, I'd imagine the school was pretty clear about what was acceptable and what wasn't. Doesn't the kid whose name was called after the big deal football player have a right to hear his name called, too? Certainly the big deal football player had had numerous opportunities to get his props: games, pep rallies, banquets, media coverage, etc.

Tradition can be a powerful thing. Back in Leave it to Beaverville (and to this day) graduation exercises at my high school included no adult speakers. The speakers are chosen by the graduates. One year, Governor Otto Kerner (a graduate of the school!) offered to give a commencement address (his nephew was graduating). He was turned down by school officials who pointed out the tradition, since 1873, of not having adult speakers (and not wearing caps and gowns). I believe they did offer him a couple of tickets.
 
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A popular young man at our high school faced something somewhat similar. Students can do skits at a popular annual revue, and he asked ahead of time whether he could perform the dance-off scene from Zoolander, and was given permission. So of course he goes on stage to the tune of Michael Jackson's Beat It and pulls his underwear out of his pants, just like in the movie.

Of course, he is threatened with suspension (for a longer time period than a student who physically assaulted another student was given, no less!), because in the school administrator's mind, he was simulating masturbation (because the administrator did not realize that the song Beat It means "get lost," he somehow thought Beat It meant, you know, beat "it.") The fact that he asked for permission ahead of time and was granted it as well carried no weight at all, since "he should have known better."

Fortunately, many parents rallied around him (they had seen the performance too and were familiar with the movie and song), and his own parents threatened legal action along with an assertive letter-writing campaign to all the local papers, and his suspension was turned into detention.

An interesting, but only slightly analogous situation. Good thing his parents had a lawyer. Can't be a jerky high school kid these days without a lawyer. It does sound like Miss Plimsol over reacted though.

I was heavily involved in my Senior Follies (as a class officer and performer) and remember the knock down drag out arguments we had with the guy advising us. At one point he even stormed out of the auditorium over something silly. People get wrapped up in these high school things and sometimes students, parents and faculty don't always act the way they should. I view behavior at an event like graduation as a matter of politeness and respect for others. Two things generally in shorter supply these days.
 
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Rather than posting the story, let's let the picture to the talking here:

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Mother of the year.
 
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An interesting, but only slightly analogous situation. Good thing his parents had a lawyer. Can't be a jerky high school kid these days without a lawyer. It does sound like Miss Plimsol over reacted though.

No kidding! One kid physically assaults another and gets two days suspension; one kid dances to Beat It and is threatened with a one-week suspension? Odd priorities to say the least!
 
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No kidding! One kid physically assaults another and gets two days suspension; one kid dances to Beat It and is threatened with a one-week suspension? Odd priorities to say the least!

Yes, of course, but what does that have to do with the young man who was punished because his family acted up at commencement?
 
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They may have been a bit over-zealous here, yet I can have some sympathy for the store clerk given the wacky times we live in...several years ago we won a trip to Disney World as a prize, and at the pool by our hotel there was an older male, on his own, watching the young children splash around through the telephoto lens on his camera several times (i.e., every time we brought the kids there). I thought it was really creepy.

A book store, of course, is quite different, and even pedophiles who watch from afar and don't touch are not breaking any laws.
These two things are so different as to be totally incomparable. That policy is totally outrageous, completely unreasonable, and obviously illegal. Also, obviously NOT a company policy. It MIGHT have been a store policy of that particular B&N, but I smell someone trying to cover their own arse.

A few years ago, a friend of mine, who was quite young at the time, for being the mother of 2, had a bunch of tattoos and piercing was stopped by mall security after a "tip" from another mall patron, for suspicion of kidnapping her children when she left the mall playground with them. This is a fairly upscale mall, (one I hate going to because people there are really snobbish and obnoxious. Cherry Creek for those from Denver) and some woman just assumed that she could not possibly be those kids' mother. It's a LOT more understandable than the idiot kicking someone out of a bookstore for looking at books, but outrageous nevertheless.

Every time someone gets angry about how awful and PC the world is, I want to remind them that this kind of xenophobic BS still goes on daily. Pure ignorance.
 
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I've heard that about Cherry Creek residents. For the Minnesotans on the board, think Cake-Eater. ;)
 
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Yes, of course, but what does that have to do with the young man who was punished because his family acted up at commencement?

arbitrary and capricious school administrators showing no sense of context or priority, overzealously being tyrants with no proportion nor humanity?
 
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arbitrary and capricious school administrators showing no sense of context or priority, overzealously being tyrants with no proportion nor humanity?

Self-centered teen age a*sholes and their juvenile parents who figure they're the center of the d*mn universe. Tough call, but in the case at hand, I'll side with the school administrators. In your case, it seems like they overreated. The punk was not the only one graduating. If he were, he could have the Florida A & M marching band if he wanted. Other graduates have rights too. No?
 
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These two things are so different as to be totally incomparable. That policy is totally outrageous, completely unreasonable, and obviously illegal. Also, obviously NOT a company policy. It MIGHT have been a store policy of that particular B&N, but I smell someone trying to cover their own arse.

A few years ago, a friend of mine, who was quite young at the time, for being the mother of 2, had a bunch of tattoos and piercing was stopped by mall security after a "tip" from another mall patron, for suspicion of kidnapping her children when she left the mall playground with them. This is a fairly upscale mall, (one I hate going to because people there are really snobbish and obnoxious. Cherry Creek for those from Denver) and some woman just assumed that she could not possibly be those kids' mother. It's a LOT more understandable than the idiot kicking someone out of a bookstore for looking at books, but outrageous nevertheless.

Every time someone gets angry about how awful and PC the world is, I want to remind them that this kind of xenophobic BS still goes on daily. Pure ignorance.

Years ago a sheriff in a county south of Houston made a practice of stopping any vehicle heading down to Galveston that displayed a bumper sticker from a Houston head banger radio station. Naturally, a significant percentage of them were, uh, you know. He got away with it for quite awhile until somebody questioned his probable cause. A bumper sticker ain't probable cause for a stop, even in Texas.
 
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