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Nice Planet 2012

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"No doubt about it Toto. . ." Detroit woman and her daughter move out of her historic home temporarily while repairs are being made, returns to find a squatter in her home. Waiting for the courts to make the squatter disappear. Meanwhile, they co-exist. Unfreaking believeable.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...omeowner-child-forced-live-roof-squatter.html

Like the Beadle said: "If the law supposes that, the law is a a*s, a idiot."
 
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Old Pio said:
Probably. But here nobody's getting fired apparantly, they issued a press release about how the drones "followed procedures." Honest to God, if they treated my dying wife, daughter, sister, mother that way, somebody would be going down--hard.
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I feel you on that. One of those mouthbreathers pulled that shibby on my Mom like that, I would probably rip out a neck muscle or two. Pop that sternoclaudomastoid muscle right out, give em a great case of workmans comp as long as they're not so fat that its just buried under a roll of fat.
 
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Old Pio said:
"No doubt about it Toto. . ." Detroit woman and her daughter move out of her historic home temporarily while repairs are being made, returns to find a squatter in her home. Waiting for the courts to make the squatter disappear. Meanwhile, they co-exist. Unfreaking believeable.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...omeowner-child-forced-live-roof-squatter.html

Like the Beadle said: "If the law supposes that, the law is a a*s, a idiot."
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If that happened to me, the person would be forcefully removed from my home. And by forcefully, I mean, he or she would have little circular bruises the size of a .12 guage barrel on their back, if they didn't move fast enough.
 
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I don't understand the concept of squatter's "rights" at all. If someone else owns the property and they show up and tell you to leave, it should at least be an arrest for trespassing if you refuse. My parents have a couple homes up north that they mostly spend weekends at. Sometimes they will go a month without visiting either of them. So what constitutes "abandonment" of private property?
 
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It's the abandonment that is the issue. Calling this woman a squatter is not really accurate, if she is attempting to legally grab the house through having it declared legally abandoned. Those laws need serious review both in Detroit and elsewhere.

Now let's consider what we know of this through another lens. How could the interloper move in, change the locks, have plumbing work done, change the curtains, etc, if there was a contractor or someone in there doing "extensive home repairs?" You're the contractor and someone other than your client moves in and you don't say anything? For months? And how do you get in to do your work if the locks have been changed? And the homeowner, having "extensive home repairs" done doesn't stop by regularly to check on the progress? Frankly, I think something stinks in how the homeowner has described the situation. I don't doubt that the house needed work, I'm just not sure there was any actually going on. If there was actual work going on, the house was obviously not abandoned, and the question of abandonment becomes one that can be adjudicated very quickly.

That said, laws that allow someone to quickly have a house declared legally abandoned and move right in need to be changed. Once someone has made that claim, it must become incumbent upon the city to investigate the claim. Starting with a site review and contacting the legal owner and checking whether or not taxes have been getting paid. You can't leave that to the claimant, though the city could charge them for the associated costs, since the claimant has no incentive to find that the property is not abandoned.
 
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Even if I had a house, that I did abandon, I still own the land that it sits on, I still own that house. I don't give a flying **** if someone thinks they can live there, I own the **** thing and I'll do with it what I **** well please. I wouldn't give 2 ****s if someone was living in it, I'd tear the ****er down.
 
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I have a hard time considering a house that taxes are being paid on as abandoned. I can see a city's point to an extent that they don't want abandoned properties to fall into neglect and disrepair and become a blight on a neighborhood. Same way that a person can't leave a bunch of old cars or other junk out in the yard - it affects the neighbors, too. But a house that hasn't become neglected and is up to date on taxes should not be able to be claimed as abandoned.
 
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UncleRay said:
It's the abandonment that is the issue. Calling this woman a squatter is not really accurate, if she is attempting to legally grab the house through having it declared legally abandoned. Those laws need serious review both in Detroit and elsewhere.

Now let's consider what we know of this through another lens. How could the interloper move in, change the locks, have plumbing work done, change the curtains, etc, if there was a contractor or someone in there doing "extensive home repairs?" You're the contractor and someone other than your client moves in and you don't say anything? For months? And how do you get in to do your work if the locks have been changed? And the homeowner, having "extensive home repairs" done doesn't stop by regularly to check on the progress? Frankly, I think something stinks in how the homeowner has described the situation. I don't doubt that the house needed work, I'm just not sure there was any actually going on. If there was actual work going on, the house was obviously not abandoned, and the question of abandonment becomes one that can be adjudicated very quickly.

That said, laws that allow someone to quickly have a house declared legally abandoned and move right in need to be changed. Once someone has made that claim, it must become incumbent upon the city to investigate the claim. Starting with a site review and contacting the legal owner and checking whether or not taxes have been getting paid. You can't leave that to the claimant, though the city could charge them for the associated costs, since the claimant has no incentive to find that the property is not abandoned.
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It ain't her house. But while the "legal system" sorts this out, the lady and her child have to share their home with this swine? What was it Nicholson said: "Go peddle crazy somewhere else (that's not directed at you, Unca Ray)."
 
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This one is far worse: son coming in the back door of the home he shared with dad.
 
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Yeah, that's just dumb. It's good that there's a way to clear security without an id card, and the baggage fees suck, but jeez...
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I am honestly surprised she got on the flight at all. YOU'RE FLYING. IN THIS DAY AND AGE. (actually, anything in this day and age) and you forget your ID? Boomroasted. I never am without ID. Ever.
 
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Brenthoven said:
I am honestly surprised she got on the flight at all. YOU'RE FLYING. IN THIS DAY AND AGE. (actually, anything in this day and age) and you forget your ID? Boomroasted. I never am without ID. Ever.
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Unless you lose your wallet while on vacation, which is probably the real purpose of that exception. It happened to a friend of mine a couple of weeks ago.

But yeah, I never go anywhere without ID, and I wouldn't be bothered at all by someone missing a flight because they forgot their ID.
 
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