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NHL 2021: I Pledge Allegiance to Gritty

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state of hockey said:
No, they're not. This next season will see about $5M hit, then they get nailed with $13M, $15M, $15M for the three years after that (ouch), then like $1.6M for four years after that.

Liked I mentioned below, I would assume moving some of it elsewhere is part of the plan.
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You can't trade it. Those are the hits until they run out.
 
Jimjamesak said:
Hakstol would definitely be stupid enough to take Parise. Francis I'm not sure of.
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There'll be a couple teams lining up to look at Parise. Look at Jordan Stahl, Corey Perry, or a couple years ago Matt Cullen: Reliable guys to eat third line minutes. Parise fits that profile.

As far as Hak, I'd see him going after Toews or Oshie before coming for Parise.
 
From what I hear Parise and Suter will have no problem finding somewhere to play. Only the Wild will suffer by taking the Cap hit.
 
Of course they will. They don't have the stupid contracts attached to them anymore. No one was biting when they were. An undesirable outcome was pretty much guaranteed when they offered these ridiculous terms in 2012.
 
ScoobyDoo said:
From what I hear Parise and Suter will have no problem finding somewhere to play. Only the Wild will suffer by taking the Cap hit.
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Parise will be making calls; Suter will be taking calls.

I could see Suter skating with Alex Pietrangelo or back with Shea Weber depending on the expansion draft and FA markets.

I know there's Islanders noise associated with Parise, but depending on how the finances shake out at TBL, a run at a Cup and no income tax Florida ... a guy'd have to say hmmm ...

And the Wild have near 20% cap hit three and four seasons from now already, for guys they won't have. Ouch.
 
state of hockey said:
Of course they will. They don't have the stupid contracts attached to them anymore. No one was biting when they were. An undesirable outcome was pretty much guaranteed when they offered these ridiculous terms in 2012.
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There were probably two years I remember where I thought they had a shot and then got buzzsawed by teams in the playoffs with ridiculous performances from certain players. Their biggest problem is the team had no sustain. I believe when the Wild signed them they overestimated greatly what they had in the pipeline. Granlund especially. He was never as good as they thought he was. If they were honest with themselves (and if Parise and Suter had been honest cause they overestimated as well) they never would have pulled the trigger on that deal.
 
state of hockey said:
Of course they will. They don't have the stupid contracts attached to them anymore. No one was biting when they were. An undesirable outcome was pretty much guaranteed when they offered these ridiculous terms in 2012.
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And anyone paying attention at the time knew nothing good would come of it. Welcome to that day.
 
The Sicatoka said:
And anyone paying attention at the time knew nothing good would come of it. Welcome to that day.
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Depends. If they had been right and the players they had in the pipeline were as good as they thought they were a Cup on the shelf would have made all this just fine with me.
 
ScoobyDoo said:
Depends. If they had been right and the players they had in the pipeline were as good as they thought they were a Cup on the shelf would have made all this just fine with me.
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You're missing one factor: Minnesota based professional sports franchise. <-- If they can screw it up, they will.
 
The Sicatoka said:
Parise will be making calls; Suter will be taking calls.

I could see Suter skating with Alex Pietrangelo or back with Shea Weber depending on the expansion draft and FA markets.

I know there's Islanders noise associated with Parise, but depending on how the finances shake out at TBL, a run at a Cup and no income tax Florida ... a guy'd have to say hmmm ...

And the Wild have near 20% cap hit three and four seasons from now already, for guys they won't have. Ouch.
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I could maybe see a reunion with Weber, if Montreal is interested and if he wants to go there. I don't tend to see the Habs as a twilight destination for non-Quebecqois.

I doubt Vegas will happen unless he agrees to a really cheap deal, and I'm not so sure defense is the problem there.
 
FadeToBlack&Gold said:
I could maybe see a reunion with Weber, if Montreal is interested and if he wants to go there. I don't tend to see the Habs as a twilight destination for non-Quebecqois.

I doubt Vegas will happen unless he agrees to a really cheap deal, and I'm not so sure defense is the problem there.
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I'd see VGK before MTL. Why? Alex Martinez will be testing FA and VGK doesn't have the cap room. Suter could be a cost effective alternative. I doubt MTL because would Suter want to move ... countries ... at this point?
 
ScoobyDoo said:
There were probably two years I remember where I thought they had a shot and then got buzzsawed by teams in the playoffs with ridiculous performances from certain players. Their biggest problem is the team had no sustain. I believe when the Wild signed them they overestimated greatly what they had in the pipeline. Granlund especially. He was never as good as they thought he was. If they were honest with themselves (and if Parise and Suter had been honest cause they overestimated as well) they never would have pulled the trigger on that deal.
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No arguments here. They gambled, and lost. Time to settle the bet.
 
state of hockey said:
No arguments here. They gambled, and lost. Time to settle the bet.
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Yep. Which means the best prospect, now player, they've ever had is going to have to be hamstrung by a franchise that not only will have to overpay him (see Edmonton's problem with McDavid) but now also will not be able to surround him with other talent cause they won't have the cash.

So Minnesota. I'd be looking to play somewhere else if I were him.
 
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