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NHL 2021: I Pledge Allegiance to Gritty

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Kepler said:
Lynah Rink laughs.

I wonder if we are the steepest in the NC$$.

The only one steeper I have ever seen was the very top of the Old Gahden, where the rows broke down and they just put seats wherever they could fit them, like the top kernels in a corn cob:

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The only one steeper I have ever seen was the very top of the Old Gahden
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*shudder* Those were scary. Seen one guy with a snootfull stagger halfway down then go a*s over tea kettle.
 
SonofSouthie said:
*shudder* Those were scary. Seen one guy with a snootfull stagger halfway down then go a*s over tea kettle.
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Greatest barn I ever went to. If Appleton and Matthews are the Son and the Holy Spirit, the Old Gahden was Zeus Himself.

I had hoped when they burned it the Bruins would be cursed for 1000 years but sadly no, the fawces of dahk are strong.
 
Kepler said:
When a team does this do they take the hit all at once or can they structure it however they want? Can they Bonilla it?
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Financially it's not a great deal for the Wild. It was likely done to let them protect a couple of younger players that would otherwise have been available to Seattle.

I don't know what the cap hit will be for the coming year, but after that it's something like $6 million the next and $7+ million each of the last two. Also, I think there is some sort of penalty due to the way the contracts were initially configured so there will be a cap hit of about $1 million per year for a handful of years after the contracts would have expired.
 
SJHovey said:
Financially it's not a great deal for the Wild. It was likely done to let them protect a couple of younger players that would otherwise have been available to Seattle.

I don't know what the cap hit will be for the coming year, but after that it's something like $6 million the next and $7+ million each of the last two. Also, I think there is some sort of penalty due to the way the contracts were initially configured so there will be a cap hit of about $1 million per year for a handful of years after the contracts would have expired.
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So the money counts against the cap according to the way the initial contract was structured? You can't move the piles around in the buy out?
 
Kepler said:
So the money counts against the cap according to the way the initial contract was structured? You can't move the piles around in the buy out?
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You can trade it. "Here's a prospect if you'll take this too." Sometimes teams with a lot of cap space will do it.
 
ScoobyDoo said:
And now they're in CAP Hell for the next 7 years. Good plan.
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No, they're not. This next season will see about $5M hit, then they get nailed with $13M, $15M, $15M for the three years after that (ouch), then like $1.6M for four years after that.

Liked I mentioned below, I would assume moving some of it elsewhere is part of the plan.
 
state of hockey said:
No, they're not. This next season will see about $5M hit, then they get nailed with $13M, $15M, $15M for the three years after that (ouch), then like $1.6M for four years after that.

Liked I mentioned below, I would assume moving some of it elsewhere is part of the plan.
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Ok, so three years of CAP Hell. You know no one is going to trade for those contracts. This is Minnesota. We don't get free Cap Space like Tampa, or teams willing to take our dirty laundry contracts.
 
https://twitter.com/contribute_ee/st...75661068980226

The summed #MNWild cap penalties for buying out Zach Parise and Ryan Suter
21/22: $4,743,588
22/23: $12,743,588
23/24: $14,743,588
24/25: $14,743,588
25/26: $1,666,666
26/27: $1,666,666
27/28: $1,666,666
28/29: $1,666,666




Woof. Short of hitting home runs on every single drafted player, you have no chance to compete with 13 and 15 million dollars of dead weight for a three year period.
 
Kepler said:
This is what Vegas did right?
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Pretty much.

The guys on NHL Radio on SiriusXM were guessing how many first round picks SEA will have after the expansion draft. --> For example, "If you take Brent Burns* off our hands in the expansion draft (and leave our other guys), we'll throw in a first round pick."

One guy figured SEA could have four firsts. Another said SEA should ask for 2022 draft firsts (better talent).



*insert your team's overpriced 30-something with 5+ years of term left on a deal
 
ScoobyDoo said:
Ok, so three years of CAP Hell. You know no one is going to trade for those contracts. This is Minnesota. We don't get free Cap Space like Tampa, or teams willing to take our dirty laundry contracts.
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Moot point, I'm reading now that buyout cap can't be traded. I just figured it could.
 
ScoobyDoo said:
Not if they could play. They're only 36? Quite a few players go longer than that. Suter was still playing pretty well I thought.
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Suter was certainly the more serviceable of the two and could have easily played on the second or third pairing, at reduced minutes, and be a valuable asset. The problem is, they will then expose Dumba to the expansion draft because Brodin and Spurgeon both are required to be protected under the draft rules.

Parise, on the other hand, had sort of worn out his welcome with the coaching staff and front office. Injuries had reduced his effectiveness and he was in the doghouse. Letting him go lets the team protect either Hartman or Rask, probably, rather than Parise who they would have been forced to protect.
 
I guess as a postscript to my last post, I don't think these moves happen at this point in time but for the expansion draft.
 
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