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NFL Offseason: The Saints won the Superbowl, and are now Marchin on to the NFL Draft.

Re: NFL Offseason: The Saints won the Superbowl, and are now Marchin on to the NFL Draft.

Re: NFL Offseason: The Saints won the Superbowl, and are now Marchin on to the NFL Draft.

No surprise: Minnesota at New Orleans is the opening night game.
 
Re: NFL Offseason: The Saints won the Superbowl, and are now Marchin on to the NFL Draft.

Re: NFL Offseason: The Saints won the Superbowl, and are now Marchin on to the NFL Draft.

A lot of the commenters at PFT are taking umbrage with them, but I think Florio's thoughts here are right on the money -- and a pretty good window into why some announcers seem so off the mark when they're supposed to be experts in the game.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...pse-at-how-good-gruden-could-be-in-the-booth/

So am I the only one who dislikes that whole Gruden thing they've been doing as I see it as a thinly disguised ploy to put Bradford/Tebow/McCoy/Clausen on the screen more, because as you know college QBs never go flat in the NFL.
 
Re: NFL Offseason: The Saints won the Superbowl, and are now Marchin on to the NFL Draft.

Re: NFL Offseason: The Saints won the Superbowl, and are now Marchin on to the NFL Draft.

So am I the only one who dislikes that whole Gruden thing they've been doing as I see it as a thinly disguised ploy to put Bradford/Tebow/McCoy/Clausen on the screen more, because as you know college QBs never go flat in the NFL.

I thought it was great. I used to despise Gruden, but his work on that show and in the booth has been awesome and has changed my mind.
 
Re: NFL Offseason: The Saints won the Superbowl, and are now Marchin on to the NFL Draft.

Re: NFL Offseason: The Saints won the Superbowl, and are now Marchin on to the NFL Draft.

Once again, someone in the AFC East makes a move and what does my team do... a big pile of NOTHING.

The sked comes out within the hour. Let's see how my Bills will go 0-16.
 
Re: NFL Offseason: The Saints won the Superbowl, and are now Marchin on to the NFL Draft.

Re: NFL Offseason: The Saints won the Superbowl, and are now Marchin on to the NFL Draft.

The talking heads over at the Mother Ship are saying Ben could get the same six game suspension Vick got, but it could be reduced with good behavior and if Ben meets certain conditions. Vick's suspension was lowered to two games.

You are just the messenger...but 'good behavior'??? what is the definition of that in this case? Don't sexually assault anyone in the next few months and we'll reduce the suspension? I get it when they reduce a 15 year prison sentence to 12 for 'good behavior'.

That whole tactic is just a way to mollify one crowd while winking at the other...it is like the non-apology apology and other gimmicks that are more public relations than actual intent.

He has to be out longer than Vick...I love my dog and all but we can't equate dog fighting to raping underage girls.
 
Re: NFL Offseason: The Saints won the Superbowl, and are now Marchin on to the NFL Draft.

Re: NFL Offseason: The Saints won the Superbowl, and are now Marchin on to the NFL Draft.

You are just the messenger...but 'good behavior'??? what is the definition of that in this case? Don't sexually assault anyone in the next few months and we'll reduce the suspension? I get it when they reduce a 15 year prison sentence to 12 for 'good behavior'.

That whole tactic is just a way to mollify one crowd while winking at the other...it is like the non-apology apology and other gimmicks that are more public relations than actual intent.

He has to be out longer than Vick...I love my dog and all but we can't equate dog fighting to raping underage girls.

False statement. According to all things documented, there was no rape.

(and before you jump all over me, he may have done this, I dunno, because there was no trial and no evidence presented)
 
Re: NFL Offseason: The Saints won the Superbowl, and are now Marchin on to the NFL Draft.

Re: NFL Offseason: The Saints won the Superbowl, and are now Marchin on to the NFL Draft.

You are just the messenger...but 'good behavior'??? what is the definition of that in this case? Don't sexually assault anyone in the next few months and we'll reduce the suspension? I get it when they reduce a 15 year prison sentence to 12 for 'good behavior'.

That whole tactic is just a way to mollify one crowd while winking at the other...it is like the non-apology apology and other gimmicks that are more public relations than actual intent.

He has to be out longer than Vick...I love my dog and all but we can't equate dog fighting to raping underage girls.

I understand completely what you're saying, but that's what they're expecting. They may not be using those words exactly, but that's what they mean. It's the same idea for a prisoner who gets early parole for "good behavior" while living in a 6x8 cell.
 
Re: NFL Offseason: The Saints won the Superbowl, and are now Marchin on to the NFL Draft.

Re: NFL Offseason: The Saints won the Superbowl, and are now Marchin on to the NFL Draft.

My Bills will gladly take Big Ben if you want to trade him. As long as we get to the playoffs, I could care less.
 
Re: NFL Offseason: The Saints won the Superbowl, and are now Marchin on to the NFL Draft.

Re: NFL Offseason: The Saints won the Superbowl, and are now Marchin on to the NFL Draft.

The Mother Ship is reporting the suspension will be 4-6 games.
 
Re: NFL Offseason: The Saints won the Superbowl, and are now Marchin on to the NFL Draft.

Re: NFL Offseason: The Saints won the Superbowl, and are now Marchin on to the NFL Draft.

The Mother Ship is reporting the suspension will be 4-6 games.
From PFT.com:

The suspension, to be handed down by Commissioner Roger Goodell, will contain conditions that will allow a six-game suspension to be reduced to four based on Roethlisberger’s behavior and compliance with clinical evaluators, ProFootballTalk.com notes.
 
Re: NFL Offseason: The Saints won the Superbowl, and are now Marchin on to the NFL Draft.

Re: NFL Offseason: The Saints won the Superbowl, and are now Marchin on to the NFL Draft.

From PFT.com:

If it's the full 6 games, he'd make his return on FNIA against New Orleans. Like that wouldn't be a zoo...
 
Re: NFL Offseason: The Saints won the Superbowl, and are now Marchin on to the NFL Draft.

Re: NFL Offseason: The Saints won the Superbowl, and are now Marchin on to the NFL Draft.

If it's the full 6 games, he'd make his return on FNIA against New Orleans. Like that wouldn't be a zoo...
And that game is going up against the World Series. Hmmm.
 
Re: NFL Offseason: The Saints won the Superbowl, and are now Marchin on to the NFL Draft.

Re: NFL Offseason: The Saints won the Superbowl, and are now Marchin on to the NFL Draft.

False statement. According to all things documented, there was no rape.

(and before you jump all over me, he may have done this, I dunno, because there was no trial and no evidence presented)

sorry if I have done that in the past

I'm still acting as the commish here so in my mind the police report describes a rape that the police botched from the start and the victim chose not to pursue. I won't call that a technicality but if the girl said she did want to press charges I doubt the DA would have refused to prosecute...so if I were commish I would be careful of looking like the NFL was relying too much on the Vinnie Barbarino "what crime?" defense.
 
Re: NFL Offseason: The Saints won the Superbowl, and are now Marchin on to the NFL Draft.

Re: NFL Offseason: The Saints won the Superbowl, and are now Marchin on to the NFL Draft.

And that game is going up against the World Series. Hmmm.

I'm watching Dan Patrick now, and he said he wants no part of it. I think he's hoping it's only four games. But I bet the network is praying for six.
 
Re: NFL Offseason: The Saints won the Superbowl, and are now Marchin on to the NFL Draft.

Re: NFL Offseason: The Saints won the Superbowl, and are now Marchin on to the NFL Draft.

My Bills will gladly take Big Ben if you want to trade him. As long as we get to the playoffs, I could care less.
Adam Schefter:
Pittsburgh has begun contacting teams to trade Ben Roethlisberger for a top 10 pick. At least one team considering it. Story far from done.
17 minutes ago via UberTwitter
Buffalo is at nine.
 
Re: NFL Offseason: The Saints won the Superbowl, and are now Marchin on to the NFL Draft.

Re: NFL Offseason: The Saints won the Superbowl, and are now Marchin on to the NFL Draft.

Adam Schefter:Buffalo is at nine.

I could see Oakland being interested in this, too. #8 and a big sack of crap (JaMarcus Russell) for Big Ben.
 
Re: NFL Offseason: The Saints won the Superbowl, and are now Marchin on to the NFL Draft.

Re: NFL Offseason: The Saints won the Superbowl, and are now Marchin on to the NFL Draft.

6 game suspension, with the possibility of it being reduced to 4, or extended longer.

Oakland has a top 10 pick (#8). Wouldn't be too shocked if he got traded there.
 
Re: NFL Offseason: The Saints won the Superbowl, and are now Marchin on to the NFL Draft.

Re: NFL Offseason: The Saints won the Superbowl, and are now Marchin on to the NFL Draft.

Honestly he's not worth a first round pick right now. Especially not a top 10 pick.
 
Re: NFL Offseason: The Saints won the Superbowl, and are now Marchin on to the NFL Draft.

Re: NFL Offseason: The Saints won the Superbowl, and are now Marchin on to the NFL Draft.

6 game suspension, with the possibility of it being reduced to 4, or extended longer.

Oakland has a top 10 pick (#8). Wouldn't be too shocked if he got traded there.

That's not a bad guess at all. After all, this is the franchise that drafted Sebastian Janikowski with a 1st round pick as well.
 
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