Russell Jaslow
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I was getting the information from my brother -- neither one of us has a dog in the fight -- as I did not watch the game. He just clarified himself to say essentially what you are saying.
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NFL 2023-24. Now without Dan Snyder!
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I was getting the information from my brother -- neither one of us has a dog in the fight -- as I did not watch the game. He just clarified himself to say essentially what you are saying.
state of hockey
He fixes the cable?
It must be tough to find a rules expert that isn’t a former official, but they have to try. They merely agree with whatever official messed up every single time.
Jimjamesak
Already insane, UAA making it worse
The one on ESPN was being pretty harsh on SportsCenter after the game.
MichVandal
Well-known member
I thought Aikman was much more harsh on the ref than the SC ref. The SC ref put some of the blame on Decker. As if he should have known that the ref didn't notice him- even though he was standing right in front of him. And the ref didn't announce over the PA which players were eligible- which would have told him that he didn't get his message across. How could he have known the ref wasn't paying attention? Couldn't hear him talk to the D when he walked over there.
It would have been a lot easier to lose by a last second FG vs. having the opportunity taken away by a ref not paying attention.
Fighting Sioux 23
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While I despise the Cowboys, it seems like the mishap (to the extent it was a mishap, which appears highly likely given the video evidence) was detrimental to both the Cowboys and the Lions. Obviously, if the ref misunderstood who was eligible, he would have told the Cowboys' players the mistaken player (70) was eligible, and the Cowboys likewise would have understood that 70 was eligible (and likely not even attempted to cover 68). This wasn't the refs "screwing" the Lions. Unless the ref told the Cowboys 68 was eligible (which appears highly unlikely), if they didn't call the penalty, the Cowboys would have been "screwed over" by the officiating. This appears to be a case of the ref making a mistake, and who knows how the play would have unfolded had the ref gotten it correct.
Also, I heard it mentioned during the broadcast, but haven't seen it really discussed...wouldn't the Lions have been in an illegal formation had 68 been eligible?
Regardless, the Lions had two additional attempts (including a "free play") to get the 2-point conversion. In other words, they had their "opportunity" and didn't take advantage.
Also, I heard it mentioned during the broadcast, but haven't seen it really discussed...wouldn't the Lions have been in an illegal formation had 68 been eligible?
Regardless, the Lions had two additional attempts (including a "free play") to get the 2-point conversion. In other words, they had their "opportunity" and didn't take advantage.
MichVandal
Well-known member
Why? He was the outside player on the line. The receiver next to him was in the backfield.
As for the repeated plays, totally. And I would find fault in Goff for not noting 11 going offsides- meaning you can be totally aggressive with making the play. Or not seeing that there were other players open on the 3rd try.
Spartanforlife4
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Someone told me he corrected himself post game. The formation foul was only if he was still an ineligible tackle rather than an eligible end. I think he was also confused in the moment.
state of hockey
He fixes the cable?
I think I heard someone that was a former D lineman mention that the Dallas group on the field sees Goff point to the ref and watches him go over a seemingly talk to the official, and you know there’s no reason a 68 is doing that other than to declare. I wonder if they were confused when the ref told them 70 and not Decker as well. :^D
Fighting Sioux 23
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Looks like the Detroit-Dallas officiating crew will get "downgraded" based on their performance. Apparently, they also botched the "tripping" penalty that was called on Dallas on their last possession that led to a 1st and 25. Turns out it should have been tripping called on Detroit, and have been a 1st and 10 for the Cowboys inside the Red Zone. Bizarre.
Russell Jaslow
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When they got pushed back to the seven after the initial penalty, why didn't they just decide to kick for the extra point and try their hand at OT? (I assume you can change your mind before the play and set the ball accordingly for the extra point.)
MichVandal
Well-known member
Dan is stubborn. Which is bad sometimes. Had they kicked a FG instead of going for the TD on 4th and goal (early in the game), the PAT would not have mattered. Then again, had he not done a fake punt really early on the same drive....
Spartanforlife4
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There are just two playoff spots remaining in the NFC. Next week if the following happens:
Falcons over Saints
Panthers over Bucs
Bears over Packers
Vikings over Lions
Cardinals over Seahawks
There will be a 7 way tie for the final playoff spot as well as a three-way tie for the NFC South with the teams at 8-9 between the Bears, Packers, Vikings, Saints, Bucs, Falcons, Seahawks. The Bears are in name only as they are eliminated in any potential tiebreakers. In this scenario, the Falcons win the NFC South and the Vikings take the final wild card.
Right now the Packers and Bucs control their destinies.
Falcons over Saints
Panthers over Bucs
Bears over Packers
Vikings over Lions
Cardinals over Seahawks
There will be a 7 way tie for the final playoff spot as well as a three-way tie for the NFC South with the teams at 8-9 between the Bears, Packers, Vikings, Saints, Bucs, Falcons, Seahawks. The Bears are in name only as they are eliminated in any potential tiebreakers. In this scenario, the Falcons win the NFC South and the Vikings take the final wild card.
Right now the Packers and Bucs control their destinies.
bronconick
Yep, still here
MichVandal
Well-known member
And people blame Lions fans for thinking the NFL has something out for them. Thank you NFL for confirming it. Blame the players for ref incompetence.
state of hockey
He fixes the cable?
It is funny to say that but at the same time downgrade the crew.
RaceBoarder
Waiting for the Snow to fly...
Once again, the refs make a mistake. People call for their heads. Perfection is the only acceptable outcome for them.
The NFL hit the crew with bad grades that absolutely hurt their overall grades and possible playoff assignments. What more do you want? A public whipping?
The NFL hit the crew with bad grades that absolutely hurt their overall grades and possible playoff assignments. What more do you want? A public whipping?
Fighting Sioux 23
New member
Well, it was the same crew that botched the Chiefs-Packers game a few weeks ago. To have another high profile mishap (coupled with calling a key penalty on the wrong team) in a big-time game...that really is unacceptable. I don't foresee them officiating the Super Bowl. : p
Fighting Sioux 23
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If I read the story correctly, they downgraded the crew for botching the tripping penalty on Dallas' last possession.
Bronco
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You're right. Expecting a ref to remember a number for .5 seconds is a high bar. My bad. And it isn't like the NFL is just covering for their incompetence since they sent out that press release admitting the mistake....oh shit, they didn't do that either. And surely the NFL hasn't made screwing the Lions into a Youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aoJlztc_YA cottage industry. Oops again. Clearly the NFL has the highest standard and wouldn't assign a bad officiating crew to such a high profile game, I mean it would be shocking if this same crew has made a bunch of other high profile errors and STILL was assigned to this game. Wait, you mean there is at least 2 other times this season they've decided the game with either no calls, or bad calls? It almost feels like the NFL wanted this to happen.