NFL 2019-20: The Patriots Are A Terrible 11-3 Team!

[Scarlet]

I have no idea if this person is a boy or a girl. They are the exact average.

If I'm not mistaken, that's Emma Watson, the girl who played Hermoine in the Harry Potter movies.

 

[SJHovey]

Same as if the ball was fumbled out of bounds. Spot of the fumble.

Nobody should be penalized for trying to score, and nobody should be rewarded for not recovering a fumble.

He wasn't penalized for trying to score. He was penalized for fumbling.

People can argue that it's a dumb rule, or that it is a rule that imposes too great a penalty on a play like the Cleveland play, but the plain and simple fact of the matter is that everyone knows that's the rule, the Cleveland play is the situation where that rule comes into play most often (how many other fumbles out of the endzone do you see other than where someone is diving for the pylon?), so don't do it. It's like going back to pass from your own 1 yard line, then whining about the punitive nature of the sack where the other team gets 2 points and the ball, when with most sacks you just lose five yards or so.

 

[Jimjamesak]

You can't spot a ball "through the end zone" as you can at the spot if it instead went out of bounds. Perhaps you could spot it at the yardage marker where the player loses the ball, but then what do you do if lost past the goal line - give it to them at the 1?

If an offensive player loses it past the other team’s goal line then it’s irrelevant because they’ve already scored a touchdown when they broke the plane. If they fumble before and there’s no clear recovery then the ball should be placed at the spot of the fumble.

 

[Kepler]

If an offensive player loses it past the other team’s goal line then it’s irrelevant because they’ve already scored a touchdown when they broke the plane. If they fumble before and there’s no clear recovery then the ball should be placed at the spot of the fumble.

This is what I've always thought.

 

[MinnesotaNorthStar]

He wasn't penalized for trying to score. He was penalized for fumbling.

People can argue that it's a dumb rule, or that it is a rule that imposes too great a penalty on a play like the Cleveland play, but the plain and simple fact of the matter is that everyone knows that's the rule, the Cleveland play is the situation where that rule comes into play most often (how many other fumbles out of the endzone do you see other than where someone is diving for the pylon?), so don't do it. It's like going back to pass from your own 1 yard line, then whining about the punitive nature of the sack where the other team gets 2 points and the ball, when with most sacks you just lose five yards or so.

That's all I'm saying is it's a dumb rule, and what I think the rule should be. Not that it was applied incorrectly or shouldn't be applied just because I think it's dumb.

 

[Slap Shot]

If an offensive player loses it past the other team’s goal line then it’s irrelevant because they’ve already scored a touchdown when they broke the plane. If they fumble before and there’s no clear recovery then the ball should be placed at the spot of the fumble.

I'm aware but was trying to illustrate a point but I missed. On the second point - well that's just like, your opinion man.

 

[rufus]

I think the original intent way back in the day was so that you couldn't "oops, I fumbled the ball into the end zone" and have your teammate fall on it, but didn't they amend the rule years ago that you couldn't advance a fumble, if the offensive team recovers, its at the spot of the fumble?

So the reasoning is now moot, so it should be treated like any other fumble that goes out of bounds.

 

[Kepler]

I think the original intent way back in the day was so that you couldn't "oops, I fumbled the ball into the end zone" and have your teammate fall on it, but didn't they amend the rule years ago that you couldn't advance a fumble, if the offensive team recovers, its at the spot of the fumble?

So the reasoning is now moot, so it should be treated like any other fumble that goes out of bounds.

That was the fumble rule, because of a famous forward fumble by... I wanna say the Chargers.*

But as you said, that is taken care of by the rule that you cannot gain yardage via fumble. If the offensive team recovers it's back at the spot of the fumble.

AFAIC a fumble through the end zone should be treated the same as an incompletion. Spot back at the prior line of scrimmage. There's no risk because a team cannot score a TD trying one. And the chance they take is the D recover in the EZ in which case touch back.

* Edit: Raiders vs Chargers, 1978. I should have guessed it was Oakland cheating.

 

[St. Clown]

I have no idea if this person is a boy or a girl. They are the exact average.

You'd be surprised to see her when she's dolled up.

More importantly, even after making millions in her acting career, she still went on to Brown U, got her undergrad while still making more movies, and works with the UN as an ambassador for women's rights across the world.

 

[Spartanforlife4]

I think the original intent way back in the day was so that you couldn't "oops, I fumbled the ball into the end zone" and have your teammate fall on it, but didn't they amend the rule years ago that you couldn't advance a fumble, if the offensive team recovers, its at the spot of the fumble?

So the reasoning is now moot, so it should be treated like any other fumble that goes out of bounds.

That fumble rule is only for fourth downs or fumbles in the last two minutes. Any other time during the game if it's fumbled, it can be recovered and advanced by anyone on the offense.

 

[Jimjamesak]

You'd be surprised to see her when she's dolled up.

 

[MissThundercat]

Matthew Stafford is being traded out of Detroit. Incoming is probably a bag of Skittles and a Jetsons coloring book.

 

[bronconick]

Matthew Stafford is being traded out of Detroit. Incoming is probably a bag of Skittles and a Jetsons coloring book.

Remember when the Lions could have traded down and drafted Justin Herbert? Pepperidge Farms does, though I'm sure it slipped Bob Quinn's mind. 9 games with one interception from an already injured cornerback worked just as well, though.

 

[MichVandal]

Matthew Stafford is being traded out of Detroit. Incoming is probably a bag of Skittles and a Jetsons coloring book.

Hopefully he'll be traded to a team that actually has potential to win a SB. Not sure who that will be- although maybe New Orleans now that they have a gaping hole behind the center.

 

[SonofSouthie]

Hopefully he'll be traded to a team that actually has potential to win a SB. Not sure who that will be- although maybe New Orleans now that they have a gaping hole behind the center.

I'd like to see NE take a flier on him.

 

[dxmnkd316]

Dumb question, who cares if you advance a fumble? That’s such a high risk play. I’m sure there was a once in a billion freak play that resulted in a darling team losing in the playoffs to flyover country. But ffs, you put the ball on the ground, that’s your choice.


Hell, football would be way, way more enjoyably insane if every ball were live, by air or by land. No more subjective tuck, “football move”, intent, whatever.

 

[Kepler]

Dumb question, who cares if you advance a fumble? That’s such a high risk play. I’m sure there was a once in a billion freak play that resulted in a darling team losing in the playoffs to flyover country. But ffs, you put the ball on the ground, that’s your choice.


Hell, football would be way, way more enjoyably insane if every ball were live, by air or by land. No more subjective tuck, “football move”, intent, whatever.

That's another way to do it, certainly.

The best way to make football more enjoyable is no clock stoppages. Play the entire game within one 60 minute interval with no quarters or halftime.

 

[Kepler]

Is anyone not rooting for GB and Buf today?

 

[dxmnkd316]

F-ck Green Bay with a pine cone

 

[Kepler]

F-ck Green Bay with a pine cone

GB is a nullity. TB delenda est. They are a fake team.