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NFL 2018-19: Let's Be Honest, Jerrah is the Real Commissioner.

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trixR4kids said:
The last thing the NFL needs to do is add more games to the schedule.
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Remove a pre-season game and add the 1 international game. That's about the only thing they can do, otherwise it's a real and tangible benefit for the Packers. Ask any player who has a "home" game in London, it sure doesn't feel like a home game to them.
 
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MavHockey14 said:
I’m not trying to argue that Brady or Bill aren’t the GOAT— the sustained success they’ve had is truly incredible — especially in a league built for parity. I don’t think it’s crazy to think about what ifs — as long as you realize they aren’t reality.

For example, Aaron Rodgers can make every throw that Tom Brady can make — Tom can’t do the same with Aaron.

We will never know if Aaron Rodgers would’ve been worse, the same, or better than Tom Brady in Bill’s system and with his coaching. Even with Aaron Rodgers it would be incredible to accomplish all that they have already.

I’d love to see it though — a QB that is more gifted than the one whose had the greatest career for any QB ever, playing under the greatest coach in NFL history? Yes please.
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But it's not just about throwing the ball. Brady is really good that making changes at the line of scrimmage so that he doesn't *have* to make the odd throws that Rogers or Mahomes are really good at making.

As Tom is getting older, you can see he's not on target as he used to be. But he's really good at changing the play so that his capabilities are well dealt with.

And that's a very, very big deal.

If Mahomes can do that, he's be quickly in the HOF after he retires.
 
MavHockey14 said:
I’m not trying to argue that Brady or Bill aren’t the GOAT— the sustained success they’ve had is truly incredible — especially in a league built for parity. I don’t think it’s crazy to think about what ifs — as long as you realize they aren’t reality.

For example, Aaron Rodgers can make every throw that Tom Brady can make — Tom can’t do the same with Aaron.

We will never know if Aaron Rodgers would’ve been worse, the same, or better than Tom Brady in Bill’s system and with his coaching. Even with Aaron Rodgers it would be incredible to accomplish all that they have already.

I’d love to see it though — a QB that is more gifted than the one whose had the greatest career for any QB ever, playing under the greatest coach in NFL history? Yes please.
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But it's not just Brady's arm. It's his mind, how he knows the game, it's his ability to be calm and make plays in pressure situations, it's his intangibles as a leader.

Sure, there's lots of guys who can make the throws Brady makes. But can they make them to the right guy, at the right time? Can they make them when the game's on the line? Can they make them when they're down with less than two minutes left?

Brady's a one of a kind in that department. The game's best clutch quarterback.
 
rufus said:
But it's not just Brady's arm. It's his mind, how he knows the game, it's his ability to be calm and make plays in pressure situations, it's his intangibles as a leader.

Sure, there's lots of guys who can make the throws Brady makes. But can they make them to the right guy, at the right time? Can they make them when the game's on the line? Can they make them when they're down with less than two minutes left?

Brady's a one of a kind in that department. The game's best clutch quarterback.
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Pump the brakes. Romo was, from the booth, able to predict nearly every move that Brady made in those last drives.
 
Jimjamesak said:
Pump the brakes. Romo was, from the booth, able to predict nearly every move that Brady made in those last drives.
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Sure. Romo knows what to do from the calm and security of the broadcast booth. With his Diet Coke and nachos, and extensive notes of the two teams' tendencies at hand.

But, could he make those same reads under center? Could he then execute them?

His record would indicate no. At least, nowhere near as well as Brady.
 
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Jimjamesak said:
Pump the brakes. Romo was, from the booth, able to predict nearly every move that Brady made in those last drives.
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No, Romo saw Brady change the play, and THEN identified why based on the coverage. If Romo was that good, he'd still be playing- since any old joe can make those throws.

Instead, his time as a starting QB has been bracketed by NE and Brady going to a SB in 2001, 2003, and 2004 and so far them going back in 2018 and 2019. So....
 
alfablue said:
No, Romo saw Brady change the play, and THEN identified why based on the coverage. If Romo was that good, he'd still be playing- since any old joe can make those throws.

Instead, his time as a starting QB has been bracketed by NE and Brady going to a SB in 2001, 2003, and 2004 and so far them going back in 2018 and 2019. So....
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To be fair, Romo said that Brady would QBsneak, or if he saw it wasn't there, change the play to a run off tackle. Exactly what happened.

He also said the Pats needed to spread Gronk out wide, and then hit him on the sideline, or Edelman over the middle, which the Pats then proceeded to do.

Of course, info gleaned from a season of doing their games, and his research notes for the week.

But as I said, big difference between knowing what to do, and recognizing it from the booth, and knowing what to do and then recognizing it on the field, in pressure situations And then making it happen.
 
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Romo will be offered a head coach job in the next few years. (edit)
 
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Shirtless Guy said:
The pair of Brady/Belichik has been amazing but the point remains that I do think any number of quarterbacks put in that situation would have performed similarly for Belichik.
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But you don't really have anything to base this claim upon. Someone stated previously Brady only won with a Top 8 defense which was countered by citing 5 seasons in which IND stumbled despite Manning have a Top 8 defense those 5 years and arguably far more skill at WR and RB than Brady typically ever had. Regardless of BB's obvious contributions I don't think there are but a handful of QBs that would have had the same success as Brady including Favre and Rogers. He might not have been the most talented QB but he got it done when it mattered most.
 
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You can have all the offensive talent in the world and not come close to a BB lead offense with a bunch of mediocre coaches leading the way. Hell look at the difference between the 2016 Rams under Fisher compared to what they did a year later.
 
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Are people seriously out here still trying to pimp Aaron Rodgers as one of the all time greats? Yikes. The dude's not even top 10.

I'm a lot less of a Brady fanboy than most people around here due to his need to throw dumbfuk picks in big situations (INT vs Seattle in EZ, Pick 6 vs ATL, INT vs KC in EZ, etc). But really, the only other guy in the conversation is Montana (0 INTs' in SB, one game winning SB drive). That all went away when Brady destroyed the Legion of Boom with two stellar drives and TD's in the 4th quarter after being down by 10. Montana got to play the shi tty Bengals twice (does anybody even remember that Cincy made two SB's), a decent Miami team once that never made another SB, and maybe perennial (at the time) SB chokers Denver I think. That's not Montana's fault as he doesn't pick the opponent, but Brady had to go through two recent champions (Rams, Seahawks) to win his titles. Then he tacked on another one. Nobody throws darts on 3rd and long like Brady. Doesn't matter who the receiver is. Its amazing to see, and just look at the KC game for proof
 
Rover said:
Are people seriously out here still trying to pimp Aaron Rodgers as one of the all time greats? Yikes. The dude's not even top 10.

I'm a lot less of a Brady fanboy than most people around here due to his need to throw dumbfuk picks in big situations (INT vs Seattle in EZ, Pick 6 vs ATL, INT vs KC in EZ, etc). But really, the only other guy in the conversation is Montana (0 INTs' in SB, one game winning SB drive). That all went away when Brady destroyed the Legion of Boom with two stellar drives and TD's in the 4th quarter after being down by 10. Montana got to play the shi tty Bengals twice (does anybody even remember that Cincy made two SB's), a decent Miami team once that never made another SB, and maybe perennial (at the time) SB chokers Denver I think. That's not Montana's fault as he doesn't pick the opponent, but Brady had to go through two recent champions (Rams, Seahawks) to win his titles. Then he tacked on another one. Nobody throws darts on 3rd and long like Brady. Doesn't matter who the receiver is. Its amazing to see, and just look at the KC game for proof
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Steve Young?
 
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Rover said:
Are people seriously out here still trying to pimp Aaron Rodgers as one of the all time greats? Yikes. The dude's not even top 10.

I'm a lot less of a Brady fanboy than most people around here due to his need to throw dumbfuk picks in big situations (INT vs Seattle in EZ, Pick 6 vs ATL, INT vs KC in EZ, etc). But really, the only other guy in the conversation is Montana (0 INTs' in SB, one game winning SB drive). That all went away when Brady destroyed the Legion of Boom with two stellar drives and TD's in the 4th quarter after being down by 10. Montana got to play the shi tty Bengals twice (does anybody even remember that Cincy made two SB's), a decent Miami team once that never made another SB, and maybe perennial (at the time) SB chokers Denver I think. That's not Montana's fault as he doesn't pick the opponent, but Brady had to go through two recent champions (Rams, Seahawks) to win his titles. Then he tacked on another one. Nobody throws darts on 3rd and long like Brady. Doesn't matter who the receiver is. Its amazing to see, and just look at the KC game for proof
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Brady has destroyed everyone at this point. No one else is in the conversation.
 
Rover said:
Are people seriously out here still trying to pimp Aaron Rodgers as one of the all time greats? Yikes. The dude's not even top 10.

I'm a lot less of a Brady fanboy than most people around here due to his need to throw dumbfuk picks in big situations (INT vs Seattle in EZ, Pick 6 vs ATL, INT vs KC in EZ, etc). But really, the only other guy in the conversation is Montana (0 INTs' in SB, one game winning SB drive). That all went away when Brady destroyed the Legion of Boom with two stellar drives and TD's in the 4th quarter after being down by 10. Montana got to play the shi tty Bengals twice (does anybody even remember that Cincy made two SB's), a decent Miami team once that never made another SB, and maybe perennial (at the time) SB chokers Denver I think. That's not Montana's fault as he doesn't pick the opponent, but Brady had to go through two recent champions (Rams, Seahawks) to win his titles. Then he tacked on another one. Nobody throws darts on 3rd and long like Brady. Doesn't matter who the receiver is. Its amazing to see, and just look at the KC game for proof
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I don’t think anyone here is disputing Brady as the GOAT.

I think you’re nuts saying Rodgers isn’t a top 10 all time QB, but curious as to why you believe that, as you’re one of few I’ve heard with that take.
 
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