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NFL 2017: With Dollar Signs in Goodell's Eyes

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trixR4kids said:
Ah well that explains a lot :D.

In all seriousness that's really cool.
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My sisters son. Watched the kid grow before my eyes. He was 5'8" and 125 dripping wet as a freshman. Then boom he took off. But feel free to keep downplaying him. ;)
 
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Browns recent 1st rounds:

2017 - 3 first rounders
2016 - 2 first rounders
2015 - 2 first rounders
2014 - 2 first rounders
2013 - 6th overall
2012 - 2 first rounders


11 first rounders in the past 6 seasons and they are worse than they were before.
 
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trixR4kids said:
For the record he is better this year but last year he was terrible and pretty easily in the bottom 5-10 starters.
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What does last year have to do with anything?

I ask that somewhat facetiously but a rookie year (with a slightly different roster) should not give as much weight as you currently do.

You can toss out all the stats you want, he is helping his team win. I do not think he is the next Brady or Rodgers by a long shot, but you don't need a Top 10 QB of all time to consistently win games.
 
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Slap Shot said:
What does last year have to do with anything?

I ask that somewhat facetiously but a rookie year (with a slightly different roster) should not give as much weight as you currently do.

You can toss out all the stats you want, he is helping his team win. I do not think he is the next Brady or Rodgers by a long shot, but you don't need a Top 10 QB of all time to consistently win games.
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No I agree with everything you said here though I do think it’s fair to bring up his rookie year because it’s all we have to go by outside a handful of games this year. A lot of this argument began because of the debate over Kaepernick’s overall ability and whether he is good enough to be a starter.
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
It's OK to take a knee, says Goodell: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...-players-kneel-during-national-anthem-without

Just remember that it's also OK for people to not tune in if they don't like what they see. And this doesn't seem to forbid owners from dealing with their own subordinates, either. More of a league policy and any suspensions they would throw down.
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What if you're already not watching because Roger Goodell is a terrible commissioner and the coaches treat the players worse than a hunk of meat and the players treat women even worse? Do I have to start watching again, lest my "boycott" be lumped in with these false patriots who oppose the league now?

Also, has Goodell or any of the other owners announced a policy where they will refund (or at least no longer demand) taxpayer money to promote paid patriotism at the games?
 
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ticapnews said:
What if you're already not watching because Roger Goodell is a terrible commissioner and the coaches treat the players worse than a hunk of meat and the players treat women even worse? Do I have to start watching again, lest my "boycott" be lumped in with these false patriots who oppose the league now?

Also, has Goodell or any of the other owners announced a policy where they will refund (or at least no longer demand) taxpayer money to promote paid patriotism at the games?
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The league no longer gets paid for its anthem time or honoring the military. That ended within a week or so of the news breaking however many years ago. People were appalled, rightly so, and the NFL announced that it would no longer require payments for taking such actions. You know, because it was good business to get the money when they could, and better business to not take the money when people learned of it.

I've seen all of about an hour of NFL football on TV this year. That means I've seen all of about 3 minutes of actual gameplay.
 
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They might not get paid by the defense dept. anymore but they still use military people for their financial gain basically.
 
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ticapnews said:
What if you're already not watching because Roger Goodell is a terrible commissioner and the coaches treat the players worse than a hunk of meat and the players treat women even worse? Do I have to start watching again, lest my "boycott" be lumped in with these false patriots who oppose the league now?

Also, has Goodell or any of the other owners announced a policy where they will refund (or at least no longer demand) taxpayer money to promote paid patriotism at the games?
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If you're already not watching, that's fair enough. No one said you had to share the same reasoning.

As for the point, I haven't heard a gosh darn thing, nor do I believe it will ever happen.
 
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trixR4kids said:
They might not get paid by the defense dept. anymore but they still use military people for their financial gain basically.
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The soldiers are always used as pawns. By politicians, defense contractors, their own generals, corporations looking for good will to cover up their latest poisoning / maiming / plundering of millions of their consumers.

It's all sick and twisted and awful and nobody will ever be punished because C.R.E.A.M.
 
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Kepler said:
The soldiers are always used as pawns. By politicians, defense contractors, their own generals, corporations looking for good will to cover up their latest poisoning / maiming / plundering of millions of their consumers.

It's all sick and twisted and awful and nobody will ever be punished because C.R.E.A.M.
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That's a good point, it's true on broader level as well.
 
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St. Clown said:
The league no longer gets paid for its anthem time or honoring the military. That ended within a week or so of the news breaking however many years ago. People were appalled, rightly so, and the NFL announced that it would no longer require payments for taking such actions. You know, because it was good business to get the money when they could, and better business to not take the money when people learned of it.

I've seen all of about an hour of NFL football on TV this year. That means I've seen all of about 3 minutes of actual gameplay.
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I trust them as much as I trust images of the Loch Ness Monster.

I only know about this current NFL season because of this thread and my Facebook newsfeed.
 
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ticapnews said:
I trust them as much as I trust images of the Loch Ness Monster.

I only know about this current NFL season because of this thread and my Facebook newsfeed.
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I highly doubt you're missing much. I stopped following the NFL closely when I became of voting age. I'll see how the Bills are doing, maybe listen to a game, but other than that, there isn't much of a point.

I'm just glad college hockey has remained pure. If that starts going the way of the doldrums, well... :(
 
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