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New York Yankees: Order Has Been Restored To The Universe

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Here is what I see as the starting pitching.

1 CC
2 AJ
3 Pettitte
4 Vasquez
5 Joba

Hughes stays in bullpen as he is on an innings limit next season and Joba is not.
 
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Vasquez is probably your second best pitcher. He's at worst your third best pitcher.
 
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And the version you saw last here in New York... Well he was hurt and guess who refused to give him a break? Didn't think I'd let that go now would you? :)

Fact of the matter here is this is a heist. Vazquez's ERA will come up pitching in the AL East, but he struck out 238 guys last year and has pitched over 200 innings every season save for one where he threw 198. He's a horse, he'll start a ton of games and he strikes out tons of guys. That's awesome.

Oh, that's right it was all someone else's fault why he sucked in NY! I keep forgetting that. ;)

Like I said I hope he is better this time around but I am not getting my hopes up. This reminds me of those investment commercials where they say "Past performance is not indicative of future performance".

With that being said I like the trade. Melky was very expendable and since the Yanks are so insistent on babying Hughes and Joba (heck, we don't even know if they can start on a regular basis over a full season) at least we have a inning eater. Bottom line is the team is better today than yesterday. Question remains, and it depends upon which Javy shows up, how much better are the Yanks today.
 
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How close is it to the time when Damon tells Boras he wants to be a Yankee and I'll do my own negotiating?
 
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How close is it to the time when Damon tells Boras he wants to be a Yankee and I'll do my own negotiating?

Never, since Damon wants money.

I mean, the guy went directly from Boston to New York. No one does that unless it's about money.
 
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Oh, that's right it was all someone else's fault why he sucked in NY! I keep forgetting that. ;)

Like I said I hope he is better this time around but I am not getting my hopes up. This reminds me of those investment commercials where they say "Past performance is not indicative of future performance".

With that being said I like the trade. Melky was very expendable and since the Yanks are so insistent on babying Hughes and Joba (heck, we don't even know if they can start on a regular basis over a full season) at least we have a inning eater. Bottom line is the team is better today than yesterday. Question remains, and it depends upon which Javy shows up, how much better are the Yanks today.

Brother had a bad shoulder and he kept starting him in spite of that. That's all I'm saying.

Also, this is a contract year for Vazquez and he wasn't afraid to come back to New York, they weren't one of the teams he had on his no-trade list.

He's going to be the bomb.
 
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I said this after you signing Teixiera on Dec. 23rd last year and I'm saying it again this year, a day earlier...Give the Yankees the trophy now.:(
 
Re: New York Yankees: Order Has Been Restored To The Universe

I said this after you signing Teixiera on Dec. 23rd last year and I'm saying it again this year, a day earlier...Give the Yankees the trophy now.:(

Don't worry little slugger, the Mets will surely sign another backup catcher soon.
 
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With the trade and including the still-unfinalized signing of free-agent designated hitter Nick Johnson, the Yankees' payroll for next season stands at $200.9 million for 16 signed players. That includes two not expected to make the opening-day roster: pitcher Andrew Brackman and infielder Juan Miranda.


i'd like to see them stand pat and go with granderson in LF and gardner in CF. that would put the payroll still under last year - if only by pennies.
 
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i'd like to see them stand pat and go with granderson in LF and gardner in CF. that would put the payroll still under last year - if only by pennies.

I don't think Gardner has enough offense to play CF every day.
 
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the lineup can afford one hole. and he is above average defensively and its great on the bases (when he does manage to get on)
 
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True enough they can afford a hole in the lineup but why have one when they don't need to? They can certainly afford a better player than Gardner to patrol CF/LF without increasing the payroll too much.

He'd be a bench player on most teams let alone the Yanks. With that said I do love his hustle and his attitude and wouldn't mind him sticking around as a fourth outfielder.
 
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True enough they can afford a hole in the lineup but why have one when they don't need to? They can certainly afford a better player than Gardner to patrol CF/LF without increasing the payroll too much.

He'd be a bench player on most teams let alone the Yanks. With that said I do love his hustle and his attitude and wouldn't mind him sticking around as a fourth outfielder.

Some folks seem to think that Mark DeRosa is a guy that might fit in there but I don't particularly care for that. Jermaine Dye's name is getting thrown around a little bit too but I'm not so hot on him there, he seems super streaky.
 
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I like the Vasquez move a lot. I'm a little worried though that the Yanks have lost some clutch bats in Matsui, Melky and likely Damon.
 
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I like the Vasquez move a lot. I'm a little worried though that the Yanks have lost some clutch bats in Matsui, Melky and likely Damon.

I don't like that Matsui left, I'll say that now, but Nick Johnson is the ultimate professional hitter and when he gets to score 100 runs next year it'll be OK. Granderson is a titanic upgrade by playing centerfield and also having Damon-like hitting skills. Sure they've lost some guys, but they've filled those spots pretty well and there's still one more move left to make for left field.

This team could be sickeningly awesome.
 
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Granderson is a titanic upgrade by playing centerfield and also having Damon-like hitting skills.

I don't see how is hitting skills are the same. From what I have read it looks to me like Granderson has in the past few years had fewer hits, doubles, home runs, and RBI than Damon. Less walks, had a lower batting average, on-base percentage, and OPS+ than Damon. Not sure how that translates into better skills.

The best thing I think about this deal is that Granderson is younger and could possibly get better while Damon is probably going to decline.
 
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