What's new
USCHO Fan Forum

This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

  • The USCHO Fan Forum has migrated to a new plaform, xenForo. Most of the function of the forum should work in familiar ways. Please note that you can switch between light and dark modes by clicking on the gear icon in the upper right of the main menu bar. We are hoping that this new platform will prove to be faster and more reliable. Please feel free to explore its features.

New UNO Arena Construction Thread---Facility to open for the start of '15-'16 Season

Re: New UNO Arena Construction Thread---Facility to open for the start of '15-'16 Sea

Thoughts on the arena.

Basically, this facility is a rebuild of the Omaha Civic Auditorium to considerably more modern standards. You walk in and if you were asked to guess the capacity, I think most people would say more than what the capacity actually is. Seems big for the size it is. The building was designed with Amsoil in Duluth as one of the several templates for it, but it is noticeably larger, particularly when you walk into the seating area from the concourse. It is visually impressive.

No escalators in the building. You are walking up and down stairs. All entry points require a trek up the stairs. Students have their own dedicated entrance to the building. The main entrance is on the South side (non-street) of the building, which seems counter-intuitive. Not familiar enough with the building yet to hazard a guess as to why this was done this way.

Concourses are tight. This was made worse by problems they had with concession (under)staffing and stocking as well as placement and staffing of beer kiosks. The lines were so long at all of these that it made getting by any of them if you were walking the concourse a huge challenge. The lines were in the way. The kiosks had only one person staffing each and that made the lines at them ridiculous as well as slow. Worse, these kiosks only take cash. Who carries cash any more? I almost never have any cash on me. We've reached the stage as a society that there is really no need to. The alcohol kiosks (read: non-beer) were tough to find (saw only one) and was woefully understocked and understaffed. One person, again. The one I went to had no soft drinks with which to make mixed drinks. Margarita? Nope, lacked the necessary things (I don't know what) to make one. I've been to frat parties that had more alcohol choices at their bar and were better equipped and stocked. I saw concessions in the building when I walked in that were not staffed nor open (but were, later).

Aisleways up and down in the seating area are a tad narrow as are the portals in and out of the seating area. Lot of congestion between periods. My seats are close to the restroom and, at the end of the 1st period, I had already used the restroom and was headed back to my seat as everyone was trying to get into the concourse. You have to walk against a tidal wave of humanity. Big challenge. The stairwells are so crowded that people were coming up or down on both sides of the aisles. Tough to be going the other way if you are. The stairwells down from the upper deck, where they turn the corner at the bottom, are the tightest I have ever seen in arena, anywhere.

The sound systems in the building needs some tweaking. Not loud enough and a lot of what was said over it was unintelligible. Dunno if because of the acoustics of the or the volume. Many times times during the course of the game could I hear people yelling "Turn it up". It was that noticeable. There was some improvement as the evening wore on but was still an issue at night's end.

Restroom's are large and plentiful. Was a bit shocked by how dirty they already were when I used one at the end of the 1st period. Can anyone say "custodian"?

Sight lines are outstanding in the building.

Boards are obviously bouncy and the team clearly already knew this as several obvious shots wide of the net were purposefully taken to get rebounds off the boards back out in front to onrushing skaters.

Getting a consistent internet connection in the building was a huge problem.

Ushers were lackadaisical in my section about allowing people to take their seats during play. Cupholders are on the seat arms, themselves, and are very chintzy. So much so that breakage of these looks inevitable.

Beer selection in the arena is very poor and (mostly) limited to Budweiser family products. Yuck.

There is less leg room in front of you in Baxter Arena as opposed to the CenturyLink Center. We had/have aisle seats at both places. At Baxter getting up for everyone coming by is now an absolute necessity.

No organ and no skating cheerleaders. Need both.

Free parking rules. Saves me almost 200 bucks per season right there.

There is no "congregation place" in this building at all. You are either coming or going to your seat, a restroom, or a concession.

I thought the seats were comfortable.

There are obviously some bugs they have to work out, yet. I plan to give it a little time before getting too upset about any specific issue.
 
Last edited:
Re: New UNO Arena Construction Thread---Facility to open for the start of '15-'16 Sea

The main entrance is on the South side (non-street) of the building, which seems counter-intuitive. Not familiar enough with the building yet to hazard a guess as to why this was done this way.

From what I could tell by the design, my guess is that decision was more of an aesthetic one, rather than a functional one. Might be for views, daylighting, or how the architect envisioned traffic flow. I agree with you it's not in the best spot.
 
Re: New UNO Arena Construction Thread---Facility to open for the start of '15-'16 Sea

Didn't realize the boxes were like that. That's dumb.
 
Re: New UNO Arena Construction Thread---Facility to open for the start of '15-'16 Sea

Didn't realize the boxes were like that. That's dumb.

Not sure what boxes you are referring to?

Got a tour of the building a couple hours before the Saturday game. Pretty interesting choices made with the design of stuff on the ice. The penalty box was located next to UNO's bench for obvious reasons, and the opposing team must skate all the way across the ice after a penalty expires. The only access for the opposing team to get on the ice is through the student section. So, any equipment failures (broken skate, etc.) have to be taken care of when the whistle is blown. The trainer/equipment manager then can go onto the ice to the exit. Then, after going back to the equipment room, they have to wait for the next whistle before they can get back on the ice. Just a little gamesmanship going on there.
 
Re: New UNO Arena Construction Thread---Facility to open for the start of '15-'16 Sea

Not sure what boxes you are referring to?

Got a tour of the building a couple hours before the Saturday game. Pretty interesting choices made with the design of stuff on the ice. The penalty box was located next to UNO's bench for obvious reasons, and the opposing team must skate all the way across the ice after a penalty expires. The only access for the opposing team to get on the ice is through the student section. So, any equipment failures (broken skate, etc.) have to be taken care of when the whistle is blown. The trainer/equipment manager then can go onto the ice to the exit. Then, after going back to the equipment room, they have to wait for the next whistle before they can get back on the ice. Just a little gamesmanship going on there.
The gamesmanship is precisely why it should be banned. The building (and all of the ones built in the last few years that have the setup) is capable of a normal setup. The allowance is for older buildings that can't be changed reasonably, everyone else is simply abusing it.
 
Re: New UNO Arena Construction Thread---Facility to open for the start of '15-'16 Sea

The gamesmanship is precisely why it should be banned. The building (and all of the ones built in the last few years that have the setup) is capable of a normal setup. The allowance is for older buildings that can't be changed reasonably, everyone else is simply abusing it.

Couldn't agree more. People building a rink intentionally with those things in mind are exploiting rules that were meant to not hurt old barns.
 
Re: New UNO Arena Construction Thread---Facility to open for the start of '15-'16 Sea

Couldn't agree more. People building a rink intentionally with those things in mind are exploiting rules that were meant to not hurt old barns.

Not that I don't agree, and it does seem a bit shady, but.....there IS a built-in advantage for those old barns. So, teams visiting old barns should simply deal with the disadvantage? Seems to me that regardless of intent, if a home team has a built-in advantage at an old barn, other teams should have a built-in advantage as well.
 
Re: New UNO Arena Construction Thread---Facility to open for the start of '15-'16 Sea

The gamesmanship is precisely why it should be banned. The building (and all of the ones built in the last few years that have the setup) is capable of a normal setup. The allowance is for older buildings that can't be changed reasonably, everyone else is simply abusing it.
When BU built Agganis Arena Coach Parker made sure to have non-standard ice and the benches on opposite sides of the ice with the home bench next to the penalty box. However, the visiting team bench is connected the visitor's tunnel to the locker rooms. I see no reason to make the visiting team enter the ice through the student section in a new building.

Sean
 
Re: New UNO Arena Construction Thread---Facility to open for the start of '15-'16 Sea

I see no reason to make the visiting team enter the ice through the student section in a new building.

Sean

That was the one that kinda got me...can't believe that's legal. But was assured it was.
 
Re: New UNO Arena Construction Thread---Facility to open for the start of '15-'16 Sea

That was the one that kinda got me...can't believe that's legal. But was assured it was.

Do any other schools do that? The only ones I can think of have the tunnel next to the student section.
 
Do any other schools do that? The only ones I can think of have the tunnel next to the student section.

They don't actually walk through the student section in the stands do they? I assume they go through a Zamboni door next to the student section?

If so, Lowell has a similar setup. The visitor bench is on the same side as the Lowell bench, but there is no tunnel for the visitor bench. They have to cross the ice and go through a zamboni door to get from from their bench to their locker room. No gamesmanship intended by Lowell though as the arena was originally built for an AHL team.
 
Last edited:
Re: New UNO Arena Construction Thread---Facility to open for the start of '15-'16 Sea

The gamesmanship is precisely why it should be banned. The building (and all of the ones built in the last few years that have the setup) is capable of a normal setup. The allowance is for older buildings that can't be changed reasonably, everyone else is simply abusing it.

Trev Alberts has tacitly admitted as much in a couple local television walk-throughs with local media here. That said, I would have done the same thing. It's legal. Why would you not want to press your home ice advantage to the full extent and letter of the law? You could make a case that it would be derelict if you didn't do so, too, frankly.
 
Re: New UNO Arena Construction Thread---Facility to open for the start of '15-'16 Sea

They don't actually walk through the student section in the stands do they? I assume they go through a Zamboni door next to the student section?

If so, Lowell has a similar setup. The visitor bench is on the same side as the Lowell bench, but there is no tunnel for the visitor bench. They have to cross the ice and go through a zamboni door to get from from their bench to their locker room. No gamesmanship intended by Lowell though as the arena was originally built for an AHL team.

Yes, it is to the right of the student section in the corner. It is NOT the Zamboni door, whoever, which is on the other side of the arena. I couldn't see any other purpose for this entrance other than for the opposing team and saw it used for nothing else.
 
Back
Top