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New Hampshire vs. Boston College - Mar 4/5 - Battle for Top Seed

Re: New Hampshire vs. Boston College - Mar 4/5 - Battle for Top Seed

This'll be a great weekend, with Belichick's theory in force: more games are lost than are won. UNH will have to play, at worst, mistake-free to win.

Is it possible to play better than mistake-free?
 
Re: New Hampshire vs. Boston College - Mar 4/5 - Battle for Top Seed

or , more likely , someone explained to him how the pairwise works. remember both he and the play by play guy were incredulous that York did not pull Muse? i was convinced and still am that neither of them knew what the pairwise was and Janney even called it "power ranking" or something like that............
Yes, there is no doubt Janney didn't have a clue about PWR.

There is also no doubt in my mind that Jerry York understands PWR completely.
 
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Re: New Hampshire vs. Boston College - Mar 4/5 - Battle for Top Seed

Yes, a BC sweep could very well drop UNH to a 4 and send BC west.

If BC wins on Friday and locks up a 2, I can see them playing Milner at Durham and taking their chances. York appears to be a very forward thinking coach and his goal (I'm assuming) is ensuring their are the top seed in Manchester and not GB/STL.
Bingo.
 
Re: New Hampshire vs. Boston College - Mar 4/5 - Battle for Top Seed

The UNH/BC series is always my favorite to watch of the season, as there's no team I respect more than BC, and the style they play. We're in for a couple of good action packed games next weekend, I reckon.


completely agree. the BC/UNH games are always the best hockey games any year within the league. from a BC perspective, its like looking into a mirror. its refreshing to see such skill on display instead of the grind it out/clutch and grab/obstruction game that the mean canadian mercenaries on bu, mack, and maine want to play.

I thought UNH deserved to win the last meeting; while BC had a handful of grade A chances more than UNH - especially early on that digornio withstood, it was clear UNH outworked them the rest of the game. their 3 man forecheck was relentless and coming in waves; the BC dman couldnt get out of their own zone. but now that its all on tape, we'll see who wins the preparation war.
 
Re: New Hampshire vs. Boston College - Mar 4/5 - Battle for Top Seed

from a BC perspective, its like looking into a mirror. its refreshing to see such skill on display instead of the grind it out/clutch and grab/obstruction game that the mean canadian mercenaries on bu, mack, and maine want to play.

The fewest Canadians per roster standings this season actually has a surprising leader:

1. Vermont (0)
2. Boston College (1- MacLeod)
3. New Hampshire (2- Hardowa, Kipp)
4. Providence (5- Beaudry, Cross, Farrer, Kramer, Shemanski)
5. Boston Univ (7- Chiasson, Cisse, Courtnall, Gill, Millan, Rollheiser, Trivino)
5. Maine (7-Abbott, Amestoy, Banwell, House, Ouellette, Sirman, Van Dyk)
7. UMass (8-Dainton, Filiou, Gracel, Guzzo, Hanley, Hobbs, Langeraap, Lecomte)
7. Northeastern (8-MacLeod, McLaughin, McNeely, Muench, Oleksiak, Pimm, Rawlings, Reid)
9. Lowell (10-Boulanger, Budd, Campbell, Cey, Edwards, Ferreira, Ickert, Thompson, Vallorani, Wright)
10. Merrimack (13-Allan, Barton, Bates, Bly, Demers, Ellis, Heywood, Madsen, Ouimet, Ross, Sheen, Stollery, Todd)

Only three teams have non-Canadian foreigners:

Merrimack (1 Frenchman- Da Costa)
Vermont (2 Swedes- Nilsson-Roos, Stalberg)
Maine (3 Swedes- Andersson, Leidermark, Nyquist)
 
Re: New Hampshire vs. Boston College - Mar 4/5 - Battle for Top Seed

A couple things here...

I don't think it's a given UNH wins in Durham much like I don't think it's a given BC wins at Conte. Either way, I fully expect two close games. People can downplay the RS title, but it's still a major achievement IMO. There is no doubt that York and BC want to win it. There's also no doubt that he won't go overboard trying to win it--meaning, as we saw last year, if they tie Friday and are tied late Saturday, he's not gonna pull the goalie.

As for who the goalie will be, I expect Muse both nights regardless of the outcome on Friday. Milner got the start in Durham last year because of his play leading up to that game. I know York and staff grasp the PWR, but I think he's more concerned with trying to win games, solidify a #1 seed somewhere and have the team playing well going into postseason play more than he's concerned with potentially knocking UNH down to a #4 seed. You can't think like that.

Sounds like Wey will be in the lineup whereas Carey will sit out until the QFs. Not having Carey against UNH could certainly have an impact on what happens.
 
Re: New Hampshire vs. Boston College - Mar 4/5 - Battle for Top Seed

As for who the goalie will be, I expect Muse both nights regardless of the outcome on Friday. Milner got the start in Durham last year because of his play leading up to that game. I know York and staff grasp the PWR, but I think he's more concerned with trying to win games, solidify a #1 seed somewhere and have the team playing well going into postseason play more than he's concerned with potentially knocking UNH down to a #4 seed. You can't think like that.

I'm sure that thought must at least be in the back of his head. York's too smart not to have considered all the possibly ramifications, and obviously the Eagles would much rather play in Manchester, NH than travel anywhere else. I don't see BC falling below the top four so they'll be a #1 seed somewhere.

There are a lot of games left to play; at present, UNH is a #3 seed sitting right at #12 in the ranks. Be interesting to see how these games play out; Coach Umile doesn't want the regular season on the line Saturday night. Hopefully the 'Cats come out flying Friday night.
 
Re: New Hampshire vs. Boston College - Mar 4/5 - Battle for Top Seed

Its all about the Pairwise for UNH. A regular season title is nice but the real thing on the line is moving up in the pairwise to hopefully grab a #2 seed. UNH needs to win both against BC and win some games in the HE tournament to do so.
 
Re: New Hampshire vs. Boston College - Mar 4/5 - Battle for Top Seed

Janney's right. Last season, BC could have went for the regular season title by pulling Muse in OT since a tie didnt help, but a loss would have hurt their pairwise, so he just took the tie and conceited the rs trophy. I think Janney questioned York about the move and not going for the rs title, so it seems Janney has his head on straight this time.

Who pulls their goalie in a tie game anyway?
 
Re: New Hampshire vs. Boston College - Mar 4/5 - Battle for Top Seed

its refreshing to see such skill on display instead of the grind it out/clutch and grab/obstruction game that the mean canadian mercenaries on bu, mack, and maine want to play.

:confused:
BU and Maine prefer to play wide-open games, so I'm not sure what you're talking about. From what I've seen, BC, UNH, BU, Maine and UMass all like to play fast-paced. MC, UVM, PC and UML all like to slow things down. NU... I used to think they liked slow until the last couple weeks.
 
Re: New Hampshire vs. Boston College - Mar 4/5 - Battle for Top Seed

Janney's right. Last season, BC could have went for the regular season title by pulling Muse in OT since a tie didnt help, but a loss would have hurt their pairwise, so he just took the tie and conceited the rs trophy. I think Janney questioned York about the move and not going for the rs title, so it seems Janney has his head on straight this time.

"could have went"? "conceited the rs trophy"?

You goed to Brown? Vraiment? Was you on some kinda programme pour mentals? Can you evens telling us what wrong wit dos phrases?
 
Re: New Hampshire vs. Boston College - Mar 4/5 - Battle for Top Seed

:confused:
BU and Maine prefer to play wide-open games, so I'm not sure what you're talking about. From what I've seen, BC, UNH, BU, Maine and UMass all like to play fast-paced. MC, UVM, PC and UML all like to slow things down. NU... I used to think they liked slow until the last couple weeks.

Not really trying to get into this style debate, but BU may try to play that way (haven't watched closely enough)...but really, they lack the personnel to do so IMO. To me, right now, the top three offensive teams in the league are BC, UNH and Maine. I see a dropoff after those three. JMO. Anyway, let's be honest here...no coach would describe how his team plays as "wide open". Sure, York loves up-tempo hockey, but I can guarantee you the two recent games against NU had him pulling some hair out...

Who pulls their goalie in a tie game anyway?

I'm glad you said it. I thought it was just me. Nobody pulls their goalie in a tie game unless a win is absolutely necessary

It was a unique situation. Certainly led to speculation leading up to it, but obviously York shared your views. I certainly wouldn't have been upset if he did pull the goalie in that situation. Overall, PWR implications are the most important factor.
 
Re: New Hampshire vs. Boston College - Mar 4/5 - Battle for Top Seed

if bc sweeps here, could that start to push uhn into a #4 seed - effectively making the igles go west for the tournament?!?

that would be unfortunate. bc should be able to get all their fans into a regional within driving distance as the (then) #1 team.
 
Re: New Hampshire vs. Boston College - Mar 4/5 - Battle for Top Seed

if bc sweeps here, could that start to push uhn into a #4 seed - effectively making the igles go west for the tournament?!?

that would be unfortunate. bc should be able to get all their fans into a regional within driving distance as the (then) #1 team.

Could it? I'd assume so, but I really don't pay that close attention to the PWR. I leave that to others. Honestly, I just want BC to play well this weekend and try to win both games--which I know they will try and do. These games are a great tune-up for postseason play.

BC has been fortunate to be placed in nearby regionals. They went out west back-to-back years in '99 and '00, but every other time they've been close.

'98: Albany
'01: Worcester
'03: Providence
'04: Manchester
'05: Worcester
'06: Worcester
'07: Manchester
'08: Worcester
'10: Worcester

Can't beat that. If they get sent west, they get sent west.
 
Re: New Hampshire vs. Boston College - Mar 4/5 - Battle for Top Seed

I'm glad you said it. I thought it was just me. Nobody pulls their goalie in a tie game unless a win is absolutely necessary

it WAS absolutely necessary if you were looking to win the HE regular season title and you were BC and Jerry York, that was the gist of the recent conversation i thought:confused:
 
Re: New Hampshire vs. Boston College - Mar 4/5 - Battle for Top Seed

Since PWR has been mentioned a couple times, I thought I'd throw out a little sidelight regarding TUC. I was checking out the records for all of D1, and saw what I thought was a misprint. North Dakota stands at 24-8-3 overall, with EVERY GAME THIS YEAR played against a TUC. Well, it wasn't a misprint. That ends this weekend vs. Mich Tech, but I found that astounding. Nearly as startling is how few TUC's HEA teams have played. Well, not really startling given the year HEA appears to be having, but even still....
 
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