National Semi-Final: Minnesota vs. North Dakota

[mnstate0fhockey]

I'm not talking about ratings. I'm talking about TV Execs. There is an enormous difference.

What do you think TV Execs use to make broadcasting decisions, a ouija board?

Boston College and Minnesota are both in the Frozen Four this year. Minnesota gets the night game. Case closed on who the "Execs" think draws more.

 

[mnstate0fhockey]

Then answer my previous question.

What question?

 

[Fighting Sioux 23]

Re: National Semi-Final: Minnesota vs. North Dakota

What do you think TV Execs use to make broadcasting decisions, a ouija board?

I don't think they care about 186k viewers either. ESPN cares about names. If the matchups were Michigan vs. Notre Dame, and Boston College vs. Minnesota, Michigan-Notre Dame would have been the evening matchup.

 

[Fighting Sioux 23]

Re: National Semi-Final: Minnesota vs. North Dakota

What question?

Who won all these "national championships" from 1896-1947?

 

[gopher wes]

Re: National Semi-Final: Minnesota vs. North Dakota

Need the arrow. That it all.

 

[mnstate0fhockey]

Who won all these "national championships" from 1896-1947?

Minnesota in 1940, and by poll in 1929.

If other schools want to recognize achievements in their school's history during that era, they can look up their school's history.

Your school's is much briefer, so shouldn't take you long

 

[Dirty]

Re: National Semi-Final: Minnesota vs. North Dakota

I hate to burst your bubble but Minnesota is playing the late game because of who their opponent is, not solely because of who they are. If BC was playing UND, that would be the night game. If BC was playing Minnesota, that would be the night game. In other words, whoever isn't playing Union gets the night game.

 

[mnstate0fhockey]

I hate to burst your bubble but Minnesota is playing the late game because of who their opponent is, not solely because of who they are. If BC was playing UND, that would be the night game. If BC was playing Minnesota, that would be the night game. In other words, whoever isn't playing Union gets the night game.

It's cute you think that

The games didn't switch until right after MN won, which was long after BC vs Union was set.

 

[willythekid]

Re: National Semi-Final: Minnesota vs. North Dakota

Minnesota in 1940, and by poll in 1929.

If other schools want to recognize achievements in their school's history during that era, they can look up their school's history.

Your school's is much briefer, so shouldn't take you long

No one else recognizes these "achievements" as titles, that's the point FS23 is making. The fact that a few gopher fans try to add these to their ncaa titles is kinda sad for them but funny as all he77 to the rest of us.

 

[Fighting Sioux 23]

Re: National Semi-Final: Minnesota vs. North Dakota

Minnesota in 1940, and by poll in 1929.

If other schools want to recognize achievements in their school's history during that era, they can look up their school's history.

Your school's is much briefer, so shouldn't take you long

North Dakota won "National Championships" in 1930, 1933, 1939, 1940, 1944, 1946, and 1947. Should it matter that they were just local club competitions that didn't involve other college teams? Not using the Minnesota Standard. I guess that means UND has won 14 National Titles. Hooray!!

It certainly is sad that some Gopher fans do this. Not one other program in College Hockey counts pre-NCAA Championships. Not a single one. Of course, Minnesota just does it to try and look better in comparison with other programs. They don't count their AAU Runner-up as being equal to an NCAA Runner-up. I wonder why that is?

 

[mnstate0fhockey]

No one else recognizes these "achievements" as titles, that's the point FS23 is making. The fact that a few gopher fans try to add these to their ncaa titles is kinda sad for them but funny as all he77 to the rest of us.

That's fine. Other people don't need to recognize them. I couldn't care less. Just donmt expect us to act like the history of our program before NCAA titles were awarded didn't exist. Which is what not recognizing the achievements of our program in 1929, and especially 1940, would essentially be doing.

And again, it's an old, worn out argment I'm not really interested in rehashing for the zillionth time.

 

[mnstate0fhockey]

North Dakota won "National Championships" in 1930, 1933, 1939, 1940, 1944, 1946, and 1947. Should it matter that they were just local club competitions that didn't involve other college teams? Not using the Minnesota Standard. I guess that means UND has won 14 National Titles. Hooray!!

It certainly is sad that some Gopher fans do this. Not one other program in College Hockey counts pre-NCAA Championships. Not a single one. Of course, Minnesota just does it to try and look better in comparison with other programs. They don't count their AAU Runner-up as being equal to an NCAA Runner-up. I wonder why that is?

Recognize what ever accomplishments you want man. I couldn't care less.

What is "sad" is your apparent obsession (it's getting that bad) with re-writing our program's history

Learn to let things go man. Agree to disagree and move on.

 

[Dirty]

Re: National Semi-Final: Minnesota vs. North Dakota

It's cute you think that

The games didn't switch until right after MN won, which was long after BC vs Union was set.

Correct because in that case BC-Union would've been the late game over UND-SCSU because BC has way more name than UND or SCSU. Just because in your mind Minnesota hockey is the biggest thing since the Beatles doesn't make it so with ESPN. They only care about name in this situation. But since you'll never see this through your biased view, it's really not worth discussing any further, so continue believing whatever you like and celebrating your fake national championships.

 

[siouxinminny]

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That's fine. Other people don't need to recognize them. I couldn't care less. Just donmt expect us to act like the history of our program before NCAA titles were awarded didn't exist. Which is what not recognizing the achievements of our program in 1929, and especially 1940, would essentially be doing.

And again, it's an old, worn out argment I'm not really interested in rehashing for the zillionth time.

What color is the sky in your world?

 

[Fighting Sioux 23]

Re: National Semi-Final: Minnesota vs. North Dakota

No one else recognizes these "achievements" as titles, that's the point FS23 is making. The fact that a few gopher fans try to add these to their ncaa titles is kinda sad for them but funny as all he77 to the rest of us.

Exactly. They are "achievements." They are not "National Titles." There were no National Titles awarded prior to the NCAA Tournament. It really is as simple as that. Of course, that won't stop the small (most Gopher fans don't actually try to argue those achievements as National Titles because most Gopher fans are reasonable) contingent of insecure Gopher fans from trying to argue them as being "National Titles." It's sad and pathetic. If there were Sioux fans on here that tried to argue our club team's titles as National Titles, I would chastise them for being sad and pathetic as well.

 

[Fighting Sioux 23]

Re: National Semi-Final: Minnesota vs. North Dakota

Correct because in that case BC-Union would've been the late game over UND-SCSU because BC has way more name than UND or SCSU. Just because in your mind Minnesota hockey is the biggest thing since the Beatles doesn't make it so with ESPN. They only care about name in this situation. But since you'll never see this through your biased view, it's really not worth discussing any further, so continue believing whatever you like and celebrating your fake national championships.

I forget sometimes that this character is JDUBBS. Looks like I have another to add to the ignore list.

 

[firstpusk]

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Whioux cares?

 

[mnstate0fhockey]

Correct because in that case BC-Union would've been the late game over UND-SCSU because BC has way more name than UND or SCSU. Just because in your mind Minnesota hockey is the biggest thing since the Beatles doesn't make it so with ESPN. They only care about name in this situation. But since you'll never see this through your biased view, it's really not worth discussing any further, so continue believing whatever you like and celebrating your fake national championships.

Minnesota pulls by far the largest ratings in the country. The fact that you can't digest or accept that fact is your issue, not mine.

Look at BC's TV coverage before Notre Dame joined hockey East. Compare their coverage to Minnesota's post-realignment.

Notre Dame is the big TV draw in hockey east, and even they never came close to repeating the ratings they got when they played the Gophers.

 

[MavHockey14]

Re: National Semi-Final: Minnesota vs. North Dakota

It's cute you think that

The games didn't switch until right after MN won, which was long after BC vs Union was set.

Where was this listed? The game times are made public after both matchups are set. The Frozen Four doesn't have much marketing ability for ESPN, as it's thrown in with a few other NCAA Championships when ESPN signs the TV contract. Do they want to maximize viewership? Of course. Do they understand they're not going to be talking about a huge increase based on matchups? Yes.

 

[mnstate0fhockey]

Correct because in that case BC-Union would've been the late game over UND-SCSU because BC has way more name than UND or SCSU. Just because in your mind Minnesota hockey is the biggest thing since the Beatles doesn't make it so with ESPN. They only care about name in this situation. But since you'll never see this through your biased view, it's really not worth discussing any further, so continue believing whatever you like and celebrating your fake national championships.

Minnesota vs Notre Dame drew 182,000 viewers, which surpassed a few NHL games the same week. If you think I am biased in interpreting the meaning of this , here is what Chris Peters at USoH said about it at the time:

There aren’t public numbers for every single broadcast, but last year a NBCSN game between Notre Dame and Michigan State drew 96,000. The network also aired the Irish against Michigan last year and attracted 73,000 viewers, while a Dartmouth-Vermont game drew 45,000. All a far cry from 182,000.

So this is big time. Especially if it is out-drawing NHL broadcasts (which probably doesn’t make NBCSN feel too great about those NHL games). Friday nights are not big TV nights, but that’s a big reason college hockey has found a home on so many national networks this year. It fills a void with something people may actually watch, particularly on a network they are used to seeing hockey on anyway.

The number probably has a lot to do with Minnesota’s inclusion on the broadcast. Almost all Gopher men’s hockey games are televised locally on Fox Sports North or one of its auxiliary channels. That’s a captive audience that has made this part of their Friday nights and all you have to do is get them to flip to a different channel this time. That matters.

So the numbers for NBCSN in particular are probably going to drop, but this is good news for ESPNU/News and Big Ten Network who will also have a few Minnesota games this year.