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National Semi-Final: Minnesota vs. North Dakota
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Re: National Semi-Final: Minnesota vs. North Dakota
No, no they're not. They are talking about National Championships that were won before the NCAA existed. It's not really that hard to understand is it? College hockey did not start when the NCAA started to sanction it, and there were National Titles declared before NCAA titles started being declared. You folks whioux have had so many issues with the NCAA should be able to accept such logic.
No, no they're not. They are talking about National Championships that were won before the NCAA existed. It's not really that hard to understand is it? College hockey did not start when the NCAA started to sanction it, and there were National Titles declared before NCAA titles started being declared. You folks whioux have had so many issues with the NCAA should be able to accept such logic.
mnstate0fhockey
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Looks like it's actually been 54 years , as even I forgot 1960.
And the discussion was on how being in a major sports conference, with it's own national television network, has provided even more national exposure for a Gopher program that already dominated the country in that department before the move to the Big Ten. Case in point, the Gophers had two regular season games on ESPN Networks this season, and a few games on NBC networks that outdrew many NHL broadcasts by that network.
Shall we compare that to your program's national TV exposure this season?
In other words, it's no coincidence that your Frozen Four game was tentitively scheduled for the early game, but then switched to the night game (despite the fact that the game is being played on the East Coast and the other side of the bracket features two East Coast teams) as soon as the Gophers punched their ticket as your opponent.
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Re: National Semi-Final: Minnesota vs. North Dakota
Perhaps that was because it was assumed by the NCAA smarties that Jan would smoke the gophers? Since the night game is usually reserved for the top seed making it to the frozen four?
Looks like it's actually been 53 years , as even I forgot 1960.
And the discussion was on how being in a major sports conference, with it's own national television network, has provided even more national exposure for a Gopher program that already dominated the country in that department before the move to the Big Ten. Case in point, the Gophers had two regular season games on ESPN Networks this season, and a few games on NBC networks that outdrew many NHL broadcasts by that network.
In other words, it's no coincidence that your Frozen Four game was tentitively scheduled for the early game, but then switched to the night game as soon as the Gophers punched their ticket as your opponent.
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Perhaps that was because it was assumed by the NCAA smarties that Jan would smoke the gophers? Since the night game is usually reserved for the top seed making it to the frozen four?
Fighting Sioux 23
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Re: National Semi-Final: Minnesota vs. North Dakota
If National Titles were declared before NCAA titles...who won all these "National Titles"?
No, no they're not. They are talking about National Championships that were won before the NCAA existed. It's not really that hard to understand is it? College hockey did not start when the NCAA started to sanction it, and there were National Titles declared before NCAA titles started being declared. You folks whioux have had so many issues with the NCAA should be able to accept such logic.
If National Titles were declared before NCAA titles...who won all these "National Titles"?
mnstate0fhockey
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Yes, the NCAA assumed that a #3 seed in the West regional would "smoke" the #1 overall seed, and that's why they tentatively scheduled the game you're team is going to play in for the early game. Wonderful logic.
Even if that weren't utterly ridiculous, you're still overlooking the fact that your program had it's ticket punched the previous day, and you're program's presence wasn't enough for the NCAA to move the game to the evening.
The Gophers move the TV meter, and that is what this discussion is about.
JF_Gophers
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Re: National Semi-Final: Minnesota vs. North Dakota
The Sioux won every national title before there were official national titles, except in years when we didn't play hockey. Those years we won Northern-States-except-Alaska quasi-national title. The Gophers won 6 straight national bantam titles playing out of the Bloomington Gardens.
Fighting Sioux 23
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Re: National Semi-Final: Minnesota vs. North Dakota
Correct. As far as TV execs are concerned...
Boston College = Minnesota
BC or MN > North Dakota
North Dakota > Union
Correct. As far as TV execs are concerned...
Boston College = Minnesota
BC or MN > North Dakota
North Dakota > Union
mnstate0fhockey
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Is this where you are going to say that because national championships weren't awarded every year before the NCAA that those accomplishments were meaningless?
Just like a Whioux fan. Any hockey played before they joined didn't exist.
mnstate0fhockey
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Hahaha... Boston College is no where near MN.
It took Notre Dame to get them a national TV deal. And even Notre Dame's highest rated game on NBCSN was against MN.
Minnesota <a href="http://unitedstatesofhockey.com/2013/11/17/college-hockey-roundup-milano-switches-to-bc-big-tv-ratings-for-minnesota-notre-dame-more/"> moves the TV meters</a>
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Fighting Sioux 23
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Re: National Semi-Final: Minnesota vs. North Dakota
It is just sad that some Gopher fans try to count being co-ranked #1 by one of the several polls (with Yale) in 1929 as a National Championship. The same can be said for counting the 1940 AAU Championship (won over...I kid you not...a group of milkmen from Connecticut...not even college hockey teams). Gopher fans have enough history, tradition, and success in every facet of their program, there is no need to try and argue that these should be counted along with NCAA National Championships. They are two different eras. I don't think anyone here will try and argue that North Dakota had a better hockey program before the NCAA era...largely because North Dakota only played 1 season in the pre-NCAA era.
Minnesota. Pay attention.
It is just sad that some Gopher fans try to count being co-ranked #1 by one of the several polls (with Yale) in 1929 as a National Championship. The same can be said for counting the 1940 AAU Championship (won over...I kid you not...a group of milkmen from Connecticut...not even college hockey teams). Gopher fans have enough history, tradition, and success in every facet of their program, there is no need to try and argue that these should be counted along with NCAA National Championships. They are two different eras. I don't think anyone here will try and argue that North Dakota had a better hockey program before the NCAA era...largely because North Dakota only played 1 season in the pre-NCAA era.
Re: National Semi-Final: Minnesota vs. North Dakota
MN > BC >>>> NoDak > Union
Agreed. BC is still WAY ahead of North Dakota:
MN > BC >>>> NoDak > Union
Terry Switzer
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Re: National Semi-Final: Minnesota vs. North Dakota
I have 2 Frozen Four tickets if anybody is looking.
I have 2 Frozen Four tickets if anybody is looking.
Fighting Sioux 23
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Re: National Semi-Final: Minnesota vs. North Dakota
Not what I'm saying at all.
Are you saying that the only two years "national titles" were awarded were 1929 (and only to one of the two teams co-ranked #1?) and 1940?
Not what I'm saying at all.
Are you saying that the only two years "national titles" were awarded were 1929 (and only to one of the two teams co-ranked #1?) and 1940?
FiveHole12
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Re: National Semi-Final: Minnesota vs. North Dakota
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Minnesota makes lots of money on TV revenue
North Dakota better at hockey
Oh yea... and Minnesota can spank the crap out of BC in October and December, not so much in March and April.
Carry on!
Thread results through 106 posts:
Minnesota makes lots of money on TV revenue
North Dakota better at hockey
Oh yea... and Minnesota can spank the crap out of BC in October and December, not so much in March and April.
Carry on!
mnstate0fhockey
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It is just sad that some Gopher fans try to count being co-ranked #1 by one of the several polls (with Yale) in 1929 as a National Championship. The same can be said for counting the 1940 AAU Championship (won over...I kid you not...a group of milkmen from Connecticut...not even college hockey teams). Gopher fans have enough history, tradition, and success in every facet of their program, there is no need to try and argue that these should be counted along with NCAA National Championships. They are two different eras. I don't think anyone here will try and argue that North Dakota had a better hockey program before the NCAA era...largely because North Dakota only played 1 season in the pre-NCAA era.
It's a worn out discussion, so I don't want to get sucked into an endless debate on the topic. I will say this. That 1940 Gopher team went a perfect 18-0 that season, and there were highly respected programs on that schedule. To say that season is irrelevant or meaningless doesn't make much sense to me.
mnstate0fhockey
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Didn't say that.
Fighting Sioux 23
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Re: National Semi-Final: Minnesota vs. North Dakota
I'm not talking about ratings. I'm talking about TV Execs. There is an enormous difference.
I'm not talking about ratings. I'm talking about TV Execs. There is an enormous difference.
Fighting Sioux 23
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Re: National Semi-Final: Minnesota vs. North Dakota
Then answer my previous question.
Then answer my previous question.
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