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My team got screwed thread - 2015 edition

Re: My team got screwed thread - 2015 edition

The "Field Explained" article is up on d3hockey.com. Matthew seems perplexed trying to explain Plattsburgh's rise and Trinity's fall in the final rankings. I'd love to see the straight up Trinity/Plattsburgh comparison numbers. By my estimation, Plattsburgh won SOC and L25 (by small margins), while Trinity won WIN and COP by wider margins. RNK was a wash. Seems the committee either A. Ignored their own criteria (that won't start any discussion here, will it?) or B. They continue to value SOS and L25 more than any of us would like.
 
spwood said:
The "Field Explained" article is up on d3hockey.com. Matthew seems perplexed trying to explain Plattsburgh's rise and Trinity's fall in the final rankings. I'd love to see the straight up Trinity/Plattsburgh comparison numbers. By my estimation, Plattsburgh won SOC and L25 (by small margins), while Trinity won WIN and COP by wider margins. RNK was a wash. Seems the committee either A. Ignored their own criteria (that won't start any discussion here, will it?) or B. They continue to value SOS and L25 more than any of us would like.
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And here I thought Laker Nation, Hockey Night In Oswego and Comfy Seats were NCAA criteria...silly me. At least we know it wasn't the pretzels!
 
Re: My team got screwed thread - 2015 edition

spwood said:
The "Field Explained" article is up on d3hockey.com. Matthew seems perplexed trying to explain Plattsburgh's rise and Trinity's fall in the final rankings. I'd love to see the straight up Trinity/Plattsburgh comparison numbers. By my estimation, Plattsburgh won SOC and L25 (by small margins), while Trinity won WIN and COP by wider margins. RNK was a wash. Seems the committee either A. Ignored their own criteria (that won't start any discussion here, will it?) or B. They continue to value SOS and L25 more than any of us would like.
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Yeah, the Plattsburgh-Norwich comparison I get. The Plattsburgh-Trinity one...less so. I mean, it's another deadlock in overall criteria, but Plattsburgh just gets flat-out smoked in COP (we're talking .833 vs .375 here), and one Oswego game couldn't have opened up that wide an SOS margin. The NCAA just really seems out to punish teams that bow out of their conference tourneys early, and doing so without any actual, y'know, rule to back them up is a terrible policy.
 
Re: My team got screwed thread - 2015 edition

spwood said:
The "Field Explained" article is up on d3hockey.com. Matthew seems perplexed trying to explain Plattsburgh's rise and Trinity's fall in the final rankings. I'd love to see the straight up Trinity/Plattsburgh comparison numbers. By my estimation, Plattsburgh won SOC and L25 (by small margins), while Trinity won WIN and COP by wider margins. RNK was a wash. Seems the committee either A. Ignored their own criteria (that won't start any discussion here, will it?) or B. They continue to value SOS and L25 more than any of us would like.
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I'm not in disagreement with Webb here, but "by the numbers" the Eastern Committee has usually gone by SOS and Last 25, Plattsburgh is ahead of Trinity...period. I said it before, we put too much emphasis on 1, 2, 3, 4, ect when with such changing criteria 1 game can change the whole landscape. Losing 1 game, having a team drop out and or move in (Babson/Nichols) can really hurt/help someone (Noriwch/Hobart) and in return can affect overall criteria numbers. If we still used "once ranked always ranked", Norwich is ahead of Plattsburgh (3 more RNK wins with Babson) and Trinity probably hosts Plattsburgh.

The one thing I do give a +1,000,000 to is the last paragraph. There is NO reason the NCAA should NOT release the last ranking. If they don't want to pony-up and explain themselves, then I question their integrity. I don't care if its as simple as "we felt A was better than B" based on criteria X. For those not on Facebook, there is a Post NCAA Selection Interview Show being organized of which they are trying to include some committee members. Will they succeed? Probably not, but you have to applaud their attempt.
 
Re: My team got screwed thread - 2015 edition

As was posted on the Plattsburgh thread, looks as tho we have a change in the NCAA seedings/pairings :o

SUNYAC – Top-seed Plattsburgh captured its 22nd league tourney title with a hard-fought 2-1 triumph overOswego. Connor Gorman’s goal at 17:27 of the second period proved to be the decisive goal in a contest that saw all the scoring come in the middle stanza. Connor Toomey struck first for the Cardinals at 5:23 before Morgan Bonner answered for Oswego at 11:34. Shots were at a premium, as Cards’ goalie Brady Rouleau stopped 16 of 17, while Matt Zawadzki turned away 20 of 22. Both teams will head to the NCAAs, with Platty receiving a first-round bye and will face the Hobart/Oswego winner. Plattsburgh has earned tourney berths in six of the last eight seasons, while the Lakers will make their sixth appearance in a row and seventh since 2007.
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(yes I know it's a misprint)
http://www.uscho.com/mens-d3-blog/2015/03/09/weekend-wrap-nine-teams-win-conference-playoff-titles/

In all seriousness, Dan and Brian do the best they can I'm sure, but can we please find some more Eastern reps? It's pretty embarrassing to read a novel about the MIAC, yet we can find out more about the SUNYAC Championship game on collegehockeystats.net, at least get the facts right....
 
Re: My team got screwed thread - 2015 edition

spwood said:
The "Field Explained" article is up on d3hockey.com. Matthew seems perplexed trying to explain Plattsburgh's rise and Trinity's fall in the final rankings. I'd love to see the straight up Trinity/Plattsburgh comparison numbers. By my estimation, Plattsburgh won SOC and L25 (by small margins), while Trinity won WIN and COP by wider margins. RNK was a wash. Seems the committee either A. Ignored their own criteria (that won't start any discussion here, will it?) or B. They continue to value SOS and L25 more than any of us would like.
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With the quarter finals getting pushed back one week this season, if I was Trinity I would rather be playing a first round game at home than waiting another week for a quarter final matchup (potentially on the road.) Getting knocked out of the NESCAC quarters like they did would have made for 3 weeks off if they had received a bye to the NCAA quarters...
 
Re: My team got screwed thread - 2015 edition

Not sure if I did it right, but I created a "Bracket Challenge" for anyone who is interested. No prizes, but you do have to register to predict.

2014-2015 NCAA D3 MENS ICE HOCKEY BRACKET CHALLENGE

From what I gather,

1. Register HERE. If you wish to use an alias do so, or use your USCHO name if possible.
2. Click HERE to go to the bracket list after you've registered
3. Click on the "Championship Bracket" listed
4. Click "Predict It"
5. Click "Enter" for every completed round to continue to the next. If you do not finish, it will not be saved.
6. If at anytime you wish to redo your bracket, simply follow steps 1-4 and hit the CANCEL button listed.

Anyone interested has until Friday to make their predictions. Any predictions submitted after 7:00pm Friday will not be considered.
 
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PSUChamps2001 said:
Not sure if I did it right, but I created a "Bracket Challenge" for anyone who is interested. No prizes, but you do have to register to predict.

2014-2015 NCAA D3 MENS ICE HOCKEY BRACKET CHALLENGE

From what I gather,

1. Register HERE. If you wish to use an alias do so, or use your USCHO name if possible.
2. Click HERE to go to the bracket list after you've registered
3. Click on the "Championship Bracket" listed
4. Click "Predict It"
5. Click "Enter" for every completed round to continue to the next. If you do not finish, it will not be saved.
6. If at anytime you wish to redo your bracket, simply follow steps 1-4 and hit the CANCEL button listed.

Everyone gets a point since they wouldn't let me move both Hamline and UWSP up a week, so I had to give UWSP the bye and Hamline is playing Hamline in the opening round.

Anyone interested has until Friday to make their predictions. Any predictions submitted after 7:00pm Friday will not be considered.
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Which Hamline do I select to get my free point? The top or the bottom?
 
Re: My team got screwed thread - 2015 edition

PSUChamps2001 said:
Not sure if I did it right, but I created a "Bracket Challenge" for anyone who is interested. No prizes, but you do have to register to predict.

2014-2015 NCAA D3 MENS ICE HOCKEY BRACKET CHALLENGE

From what I gather,

1. Register HERE. If you wish to use an alias do so, or use your USCHO name if possible.
2. Click HERE to go to the bracket list after you've registered
3. Click on the "Championship Bracket" listed
4. Click "Predict It"
5. Click "Enter" for every completed round to continue to the next. If you do not finish, it will not be saved.
6. If at anytime you wish to redo your bracket, simply follow steps 1-4 and hit the CANCEL button listed.

Anyone interested has until Friday to make their predictions. Any predictions submitted after 7:00pm Friday will not be considered.
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I am in!!
 
Re: My team got screwed thread - 2015 edition

Be advised....I haven't researched the point system and how they do it. It's all automatic. I have no control, not can I see anyone's bracket (as of now at least). If it works, great. If it doesn't, well we tried.
 
Re: My team got screwed thread - 2015 edition

PSUChamps2001 said:
Be advised....I haven't researched the point system and how they do it. It's all automatic. I have no control, not can I see anyone's bracket (as of now at least). If it works, great. If it doesn't, well we tried.
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I'm in. With March Madness brackets usually you can see the other picks after the first game. Perhaps this is the same.
 
Re: My team got screwed thread - 2015 edition

PSUChamps2001 said:
Be advised....I haven't researched the point system and how they do it. It's all automatic. I have no control, not can I see anyone's bracket (as of now at least). If it works, great. If it doesn't, well we tried.
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First round games are worth 1 point each. The points double in each succeeding round.... I remember I won one of these the year Eau Claire won the NC. Pick the winner, and you're well on your way to winning the contest!
 
Re: My team got screwed thread - 2015 edition

Told ya

INDIANAPOLIS - The NCAA® Division III Women's Ice Hockey Committee has announced that hosting duties for the semifinals and finals, which is the NCAA's only non-predetermined championship site, will be awarded to the top remaining seed following the quarterfinal round this Saturday night.

As the top overall seed on the women's side, Plattsburgh State University will serve as host of the finals in its Ronald B. Stafford Ice Arena if it posts a win against the University of St. Thomas (Minnesota) in the quarterfinals. Elmira College would be next in line to serve as host in its Murray Athletic Center should the Cardinals not advance and the soaring Eagles win their quarterfinal contest.

Due to scheduling constraints for practice and game time conflicts that would involve Plattsburgh's men's and women's teams and their opponents, Plattsburgh's men's team will travel to the winner of the Trinity (Connecticut) College and Nichols College first-round contest should the top seed Plattsburgh State women's team advance in its quarterfinals contest. If the Plattsburgh State women's team does not advance, the Plattsburgh State men's team will host its quarterfinal game.

In the other men's quarterfinals, the University of Wisconsin-Stevens Point will host Hamline University; Adrian College will host the winner of Saturday's first-round game between Hobart College and SUNY Oswego; and Amherst College will host the winner of the first-round game between Norwich University and Plymouth State University.

The semifinals and final of the Division III men's tournament will be held at Ridder Arena in Minneapolis on the campus of the University of Minnesota, March 27-28.
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