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Movies 52 - 1917: Sonic the Bad Boys of Prey

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The gay thing is sort of brought up at real random times, almost like the writers and director fell asleep from boredom and decided they need a little something else just to keep their attention.

Plus the stupid time jumping was them just trying to be more clever than they needed to be. Like they wanted to show this isnt just a dry story from the war but it is high art as well. There is like 3 different stories going on all about Turing...all of them the exact same. You can tell that in a linear fashion...
 
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The gay thing is sort of brought up at real random times, almost like the writers and director fell asleep from boredom and decided they need a little something else just to keep their attention.

Plus the stupid time jumping was them just trying to be more clever than they needed to be. Like they wanted to show this isnt just a dry story from the war but it is high art as well. There is like 3 different stories going on all about Turing...all of them the exact same. You can tell that in a linear fashion...

You have to remember I like the artsy sh-t. But the human interest effluvia is always a morass to slog through to keep the dummies interested. Just give me the f-cking equations! :p
 
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It isnt artsy...it is closer to a grad student trying to do too much. It WISHES it was artsy. The story itself cant stand on its own as a film so you try some cool techniques you learned and try and making into something it isnt.

I mean if the movie was always meant to be as annoying and mindnumbingly boring as Turing probably really was then it succeeded. Since it was most likely trying to NOT to be that it failed miserably. I mean it is actually quite remarkable that a film about spies, WW2, the birth of modern computers, soviet espionage and closeted homosexuality that leads to the persecution and eventual suicide could be this boring but boy was it! That takes a level of skill not often seen.
 
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It isnt artsy...it is closer to a grad student trying to do too much. It WISHES it was artsy. The story itself cant stand on its own as a film so you try some cool techniques you learned and try and making into something it isnt.

But aren't you the guy who hates 2001? I just watched the first hour last night, which is the Dawn of Man sequence and the Hayward Hops (Earth-->station, station-->moonbase, moonbase--> Clavius). It's slow AF and for me it's among the greatest first hours of movie history. But I can well imagine people for whom it's interminable or pretentious.

Which is why there are different flavors of lube.
 
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I doubt I ever commented on 2001...haven't seen it in twenty years at least. (can't even really remember it) I am hit or miss on Kubrick.

Difference between Kubrick and this film is that Kubrick has talent and often just pushed too far. This film just doesn't get the genre it is in. It would be like Hitchcock making a Marvel film or Roger Corman making Citizen Kane it just wouldn't (most likely) fit.
 
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I doubt I ever commented on 2001...haven't seen it in twenty years at least. (can't even really remember it) I am hit or miss on Kubrick.

Difference between Kubrick and this film is that Kubrick has talent and often just pushed too far. This film just doesn't get the genre it is in. It would be like Hitchcock making a Marvel film or Roger Corman making Citizen Kane it just wouldn't (most likely) fit.

Somebody here hates 2001 and somebody hates Citizen Kane. I can't remember who's who.
 
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I doubt I ever commented on 2001...haven't seen it in twenty years at least. (can't even really remember it) I am hit or miss on Kubrick.

Difference between Kubrick and this film is that Kubrick has talent and often just pushed too far. This film just doesn't get the genre it is in. It would be like Hitchcock making a Marvel film or Roger Corman making Citizen Kane it just wouldn't (most likely) fit.

Give Corman his due: he taught Francis Ford Coppola, Martin Scorsese, and John Sayles. God only knows what Corman would have done with budget and time. And his tag line is incomparable: "I made 400 movies and none of them lost money." :)
 
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I love Corman...but he definitely had a lane. He also had an eye for talent that is probably unmatched.

And I hate Citizen Kane but:

1) I am not the only one
2) Pretty sure I never said that here
3) I recognize why it is a great film I just dont like it myself

I can recognize talent even if I dont like the brand of art being put out. Respecting someone /= liking what they do.
 
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I love Corman...but he definitely had a lane. He also had an eye for talent that is probably unmatched.

And I hate Citizen Kane but:

1) I am not the only one
2) Pretty sure I never said that here
3) I recognize why it is a great film I just dont like it myself

I can recognize talent even if I dont like the brand of art being put out. Respecting someone /= liking what they do.

Matthew McConaughey in Killer Joe. That is a WTeff movie, but he was awesome in it. Perfect role for him. The movie itself....whoa. Did not appreciate, it was that messed up.
 
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But aren't you the guy who hates 2001?

That was me. Interesting because I just saw a tweet today about someone who just saw it and hated it.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Was I supposed to have watched 2001 A Space Odyssey while high? I didn't get the first 30 or last 60 minutes of it at like all</p>— Shoshana Weissmann, Sloth Committee Chair 🦥 (@senatorshoshana) <a href="https://twitter.com/senatorshoshana/status/1256741696815140864?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 3, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Then saw Justin Amash replied and it got hilarious.

Anyways, I haven’t seen a Kubrick film I liked until Eyes Wide Shut. And by all rights I should have HATED that movie.
 
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That was me. Interesting because I just saw a tweet today about someone who just saw it and hated it.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Was I supposed to have watched 2001 A Space Odyssey while high? I didn't get the first 30 or last 60 minutes of it at like all</p>— Shoshana Weissmann, Sloth Committee Chair &#55358;&#56741; (@senatorshoshana) <a href="https://twitter.com/senatorshoshana/status/1256741696815140864?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 3, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Then saw Justin Amash replied and it got hilarious.

Anyways, I haven’t seen a Kubrick film I liked until Eyes Wide Shut. And by all rights I should have HATED that movie.
I tried watching 2001. Tried.

Edit: except for the actual slang dialogue, I liked Clockwork Orange. Full Metal Jacket is GOAT for war movies.
 
Re: Movies 52 - 1917: Sonic the Bad Boys of Prey

That was me. Interesting because I just saw a tweet today about someone who just saw it and hated it.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Was I supposed to have watched 2001 A Space Odyssey while high? I didn't get the first 30 or last 60 minutes of it at like all</p>— Shoshana Weissmann, Sloth Committee Chair �� (@senatorshoshana) <a href="https://twitter.com/senatorshoshana/status/1256741696815140864?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 3, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Then saw Justin Amash replied and it got hilarious.

Anyways, I haven’t seen a Kubrick film I liked until Eyes Wide Shut. And by all rights I should have HATED that movie.

Eyes Wide Shut was terrible.

Are you telling me you didn't like Strangelove because you're lying.

To be fair about 2001 there is no way anybody could figure out the ending without reading the book.

But if somebody couldn't figure out the beginning, well, that says more about them. It's very straightfoward; some people just don't like it.
 
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