Movies 52 - 1917: Sonic the Bad Boys of Prey

[Kepler]

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Thing is, I love Eastwood both as an actor (A Fist Full of Dollars, The Good, the Bad and the Ugly, the Dead Pool, Christ even Firefox!) and also as a director (Play Misty for Me, High Plains Drifter, Eiger Sanction). Unforgiven just isn't a great movie. It's one of a hundred interchangeable melodrama westerns (Clint is many things but subtle aint one of them).

 

[Kepler]

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This is pure speculation, but I wonder if The Unforgiven is "all time great" for those that haven't watched a lot of classic westerns or are an Eastwood bobo.

I like it and I like Clint in it, but I agree that it's slightly overrated.

I think it really was the same as giving Hitchcock that achievement award when he was old and doddering. It was a gold watch.

 

[The Rube]

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High Plains Drifter is a really good one. I agree that Unforgiven is a bit overrated, although it is a solid movie.

And Kep: Yojimbo is an excellent movie.

Westerns (at least good ones) disappeared for a long time, it seemed like, until stuff like Tombstone, Unforgiven, and Appaloosa tried to revive the genre. I think there was such an overload of them back in the day, audiences just tired of it; it was too much.

 

[Kepler]

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Westerns (at least good ones) disappeared for a long time, it seemed like, until stuff like Tombstone, Unforgiven, and Appaloosa tried to revive the genre.

I heard a really interesting comment on a media review site a few weeks ago. They were talking about the history of TV dramas and one person said "Cowboy dramas were a staple of TV in the 50s and early 60s and then they disappeared." The other said, "No, they never disappeared. They just became cop shows."

 

[The Rube]

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I heard a really interesting comment on a media review site a few weeks ago. They were talking about the history of TV dramas and one person said "Cowboy dramas were a staple of TV in the 50s and early 60s and then they disappeared." The other said, "No, they never disappeared. They just became cop shows."

That's a fair take. The amount of Cop Dramas greatly increased in the last couple of decades.

 

[mookie1995]

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I heard a really interesting comment on a media review site a few weeks ago. They were talking about the history of TV dramas and one person said "Cowboy dramas were a staple of TV in the 50s and early 60s and then they disappeared." The other said, "No, they never disappeared. They just became cop shows."

this is news? common knowledge for many experienced people. and kepler is an old dude.

 

[Slap Shot]

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That's a fair take. The amount of Cop Dramas greatly increased in the last couple of decades.

Going on five decades for sure. Just to name a few from when I was a kid (and doesn't really even touch on the 80's): Mannix, Rockford Files, Streets of SF, Columbo, Cannon, Police Woman, Starsky & Hutch, Kojak, Baretta, Ironside, Hawaii 5-O, Mod Squad, Charlie's Angels, Barnaby Jones, McMillan & Wife...

 

[Kepler]

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this is news? common knowledge for many experienced people. and kepler is an old dude.

I had never made the connection before and it (still) seems a brilliant insight to me. If it's a commonplace, well, I never have gotten out much.

 

[The Rube]

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I had never made the connection before and it (still) seems a brilliant insight to me. If it's a commonplace, well, I never have gotten out much.

I also never thought of it that way.

And don't forget all the CSIs/etc.

 

[mookie1995]

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Going on five decades for sure. Just to name a few from when I was a kid (and doesn't really even touch on the 80's): Mannix, Rockford Files, Streets of SF, Columbo, Cannon, Police Woman, Starsky & Hutch, Kojak, Baretta, Ironside, Hawaii 5-O, Mod Squad, Charlie's Angels, Barnaby Jones, McMillan & Wife...

yup. as bonanza, et.al transitioned out.

 

[The Rube]

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The Two Popes:

Behind Vatican walls, the conservative Pope Benedict XVI and the liberal future Pope Francis must find common ground to forge a new path for the Catholic Church.

This is a very slow movie, a very tedious one, but it is worth a watch. It doesn't gloss over the fallibility of the Church, but it does provide a touch of humanity to these men who were/are The Pope. The acting is very well done, and while the story is mostly fiction (as in private convos and such), it was presented in an impressive fashion.

 

[aparch]

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I heard a really interesting comment on a media review site a few weeks ago. They were talking about the history of TV dramas and one person said "Cowboy dramas were a staple of TV in the 50s and early 60s and then they disappeared." The other said, "No, they never disappeared. They just became cop shows."

I forget the site I saw it on, but someone pointed out that the genre of Westerns lasted longer on the Silver Screen than it did in real life. I think it was almost twice as long.

 

[French Rage]

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I heard a really interesting comment on a media review site a few weeks ago. They were talking about the history of TV dramas and one person said "Cowboy dramas were a staple of TV in the 50s and early 60s and then they disappeared." The other said, "No, they never disappeared. They just became cop shows."

I like the xkcd comic pointing out western shows were around longer than the actual historical western period.

 

[aparch]

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I forget the site I saw it on, but someone pointed out that the genre of Westerns lasted longer on the Silver Screen than it did in real life. I think it was almost twice as long.

I like the xkcd comic pointing out western shows were around longer than the actual historical western period.

Thank you!!!! That's where I saw it!

 

[Kepler]

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The Two Popes:

Behind Vatican walls, the conservative Pope Benedict XVI and the liberal future Pope Francis must find common ground to forge a new path for the Catholic Church.

This is a very slow movie, a very tedious one, but it is worth a watch. It doesn't gloss over the fallibility of the Church, but it does provide a touch of humanity to these men who were/are The Pope. The acting is very well done, and while the story is mostly fiction (as in private convos and such), it was presented in an impressive fashion.

I can't believe you would call it "tedious." This movie was fascinating.

A when you said "slow," you were misspelling "thoughtful."

 

[The Rube]

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I can't believe you would call it "tedious." This movie was fascinating.

A when you said "slow," you were misspelling "thoughtful."

Tedious: too slow. And as I mentioned, it's worth it.

 

[Slap Shot]

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Speaking of Clint, just watched The Mule.

Based on a true story which to me was very intriguing. I thought there were some strong performances, but the movie was a bit saccharine given the subject matter. I am sure that was intentional and perhaps that's the tone of the source material (NYT article), but I thought it could have been a bit deeper which would cement it more for me personally.

 

[The Rube]

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Speaking of Clint, just watched The Mule.

Based on a true story which to me was very intriguing. I thought there were some strong performances, but the movie was a bit saccharine given the subject matter. I am sure that was intentional and perhaps that's the tone of the source material (NYT article), but I thought it could have been a bit deeper which would cement it more for me personally.

I'd have to agree with you. Maybe it was saccharine because that what Clint's character was, overall? He was just an old guy working a job (one that he thought was an honest one at first) because that's all he really knew what to do. "Here's some money. Drive here." "Okay."

 

[French Rage]

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I'd have to agree with you. Maybe it was saccharine because that what Clint's character was, overall? He was just an old guy working a job (one that he thought was an honest one at first) because that's all he really knew what to do. "Here's some money. Drive here." "Okay."

It was OK, but the SNL riff on it was great.

This was a superhero movie for old people about a guy whose superpower is that he can drive unsupervised. Fulfilling another elderly grandpa fantasy: that a 90-year-old white man can do any job better than a Mexican, even when the job is Mexican drug trafficking.

 

[The Rube]

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It was OK, but the SNL riff on it was great.

LOL, that's pretty good.