Kepler
Cornell Big Red
You are on fire tonight.
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Movies 52 - 1917: Sonic the Bad Boys of Prey
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You are on fire tonight.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Perhaps, but Smith did his Toxic Masculinity drag act because he thought that was the smart play. He was laughing at the joke until his image instincts kicked in. It was pure cynicism.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
That would have been great. Rock is a great comedian but he is still a carefully curated property. Gervais truly appears, from everything I have seen over the years, to be addicted to calling bullsh-t wherever he sees it. Not only would that little set piece of faux gentlemanly offense not have stopped him; it would have been rocket fuel.
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Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Yeah I don't know, who is that dude and is he really a dorky ginger?
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
https://twitter.com/LORRAKON/status/1508270234062393345
If these are legit...Will Smith fucked up so bad even Mel Gibson was like "oh boy!".
The only person I respect in this is the dude in the bottom right. That is unalloyed enjoyment of Smith's John Wayne derp act.
bronconick
Yep, still here
As a hockey fan, the Oscars never appealed to me until Will Smith got involved
Jimjamesak
Already insane, UAA making it worse
I got the sense that Rock wanted to go off on Smith, he came up in New York comedy clubs so he knows how to deal with hecklers, but I think knew he was better off saving it for later.
Like I said, he’s probably going to be on SNL this week…
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
You shouldn't make fun of someone's body image, especially if it's the result of a disease
But you're a comic, so you kinda get to push the limits of the rules
You shouldn't hit someone
But I kinda get it...
Still firmly ensconced in the neither was right, neither was wrong camp. Fucking centrists.
But you're a comic, so you kinda get to push the limits of the rules
You shouldn't hit someone
But I kinda get it...
Still firmly ensconced in the neither was right, neither was wrong camp. Fucking centrists.
unofan
Well-known member
Yeah, I think he had the producers in his ear telling him to keep the show moving.
Smith is clearly in the wrong.
unofan
Well-known member
I mean, Gervais has literally called people pedophiles without getting smacked. A GI Jane joke may have been in poor taste but hardly worthy of Smith's gross overreaction.
Besides, they're millionaires at a fete celebrating their own greatness. They can suck it up for 3 hours and put on a smiley face even if they're pissed.
Jimjamesak
Already insane, UAA making it worse
I’d also say I think Rock wasn’t entirely trustworthy of security actually protecting him in that situation.
Plus, on the Gervais comparisons, Gervais is white. The minute Smith hits him he’s already won and Gervais can keep going. The only thing Rock had to gain by keeping it up was a spot in the “When Keepin’ It Real Goes Wrong” Hall of Fame.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Kinda what I'm saying.
Earlier in the show Regina Hall made a joke directly to Will and Jada about their open marriage during that cringe-worthy COVID testing skit. I thought that was way more offensive than saying to Will and Jada that Jada could star in GI Jane 2. First of all, Jada ROCKS that look. Secondly, she could star in GI Jane 2 because she's fit as hell and I think she would actually be good in it. Will could have reamed out Chris Rock during his acceptance speech saying Jada could kick his scrawny ass without being in GI Jane 2 or something like that. I mean, really, between that awful COVID testing skit and Amy Schumer making an incest joke to and about Maggie and Jake Gyllenhall, what Rock said is a distant third on the tasteless scale to me.
Handyman
Hug someone you care about...
dxmnkd316 said:
Except you are both-sidesing it. You are equivocating because you like to think if someone made a joke about your wife that was like that you would probably do the same thing to defend her. Here is the secret though...you wouldnt! Because it is wrong and stupid and means they won. You have common sense, you would know such an action is wrong no matter what they said. All you did was make yourself feel better by pretending you are the hero in a Clint Eastwood film using violence to defend the poor lady who can't defend herself!!!
I asked my significant other if she would want me to do that...she said she would leave me if she ever thought I would. That isn't correct behavior it is abuse behavior. There is a reason women don't seem to be on Will Smith's side on this...they recognize what he did and it was not to honor his wife.
A lot of women on Twitter put it this way (I will paraphrase a lot of their tweets)
"We know this pattern well. Man gets violent, man feels shame, man asks for forgiveness using 'love' as an excuse, man turns himself into the victim, man is forgiven. Rinse, repeat."
There is no "both sides" on this one. Even if you grant that Chris Rock A) knew she had alopecia B) thought she would have a bad reaction and then C) still made the joke anyways that is like a 2 on the "what an azzhole" list and at best was worthy of the eyeroll JPS gave him and some groaning from people in the press. It was not warranting of violence. What Smith did is 10x worse and that is likely undervaluing it. And it wasn't in the heat of the moment either, because again he was laughing then made a conscious decision to stop laughing, stand up mid sentence, walk on a stage he wasn't supposed to be on and smacked a dude who was neither defending himself nor threatening him. Smith is a fucking criminal, Rock is just a guy who might have told a joke that was out of bounds.
Smith controls his image as much as Tiger Woods used too, he wasn't crying because he feels bad, he was crying because he fucked around and is about to find out. He spent years talking about how unlike some other rappers he never resorted to swearing and violence. He destroyed that myth in 10 seconds. He wailed on The Academy and boycotted them over representation...then smacked around a Black Man on stage. It is nice that Denzel and Tyler Perry tried to help him but if we are divvying up the blame (I am not but lets for arguments sake say we did) Will gets 99.8% of it. Rock gets .1% and JPS gets .1%. End of story.
Slap Shot
I got nothing
I think Will laughing at the joke makes his follow-up fall on the wrong side of all of this.
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