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I'm still trying to figure out why being compared to a ripped Demi Moore is a bad thing...

Yeah it wasn't like she was being compared to Demi Moore or anyone in, say, St Elmo's Fire. That would be a true insult.

The other altercation going unreported is that Power Of The Dog apparently said "keep my name out of your mouth" to nearly every award presenter.
 
Yeah it wasn't like she was being compared to Demi Moore or anyone in, say, St Elmo's Fire. That would be a true insult.

The other altercation going unreported is that Power Of The Dog apparently said "keep my name out of your mouth" to nearly every award presenter.

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Except you are both-sidesing it. You are equivocating because you like to think if someone made a joke about your wife that was like that you would probably do the same thing to defend her. Here is the secret though...you wouldnt! Because it is wrong and stupid and means they won. You have common sense, you would know such an action is wrong no matter what they said. All you did was make yourself feel better by pretending you are the hero in a Clint Eastwood film using violence to defend the poor lady who can't defend herself!!!

I asked my significant other if she would want me to do that...she said she would leave me if she ever thought I would. That isn't correct behavior it is abuse behavior. There is a reason women don't seem to be on Will Smith's side on this...they recognize what he did and it was not to honor his wife.

A lot of women on Twitter put it this way (I will paraphrase a lot of their tweets)

"We know this pattern well. Man gets violent, man feels shame, man asks for forgiveness using 'love' as an excuse, man turns himself into the victim, man is forgiven. Rinse, repeat."

There is no "both sides" on this one. Even if you grant that Chris Rock A) knew she had alopecia B) thought she would have a bad reaction and then C) still made the joke anyways that is like a 2 on the "what an azzhole" list and at best was worthy of the eyeroll JPS gave him and some groaning from people in the press. It was not warranting of violence. What Smith did is 10x worse and that is likely undervaluing it. And it wasn't in the heat of the moment either, because again he was laughing then made a conscious decision to stop laughing, stand up mid sentence, walk on a stage he wasn't supposed to be on and smacked a dude who was neither defending himself nor threatening him. Smith is a fucking criminal, Rock is just a guy who might have told a joke that was out of bounds.

Smith controls his image as much as Tiger Woods used too, he wasn't crying because he feels bad, he was crying because he fucked around and is about to find out. He spent years talking about how unlike some other rappers he never resorted to swearing and violence. He destroyed that myth in 10 seconds. He wailed on The Academy and boycotted them over representation...then smacked around a Black Man on stage. It is nice that Denzel and Tyler Perry tried to help him but if we are divvying up the blame (I am not but lets for arguments sake say we did) Will gets 99.8% of it. Rock gets .1% and JPS gets .1%. End of story.

I never said anything about them being equivalent.

That said, I did say they "were both wrong and both right". I should not have phrased it that way. They were both were wrong and in no way was will smith right in any context. I was trying to be clever with my phrasing and obviously wasn't. I think the joke was tasteless and at the same time Chris Rock is a comedian so, yeah, that's part of their profession to push the limits. I don't think making fun of someone for a disease they have struggled with is a great look. Chris Rock could have found a better joke there and punched up instead of down. They obviously aren't equivalent.
 
I just saw the film production of the play "The Man in the Glass Booth" and was blown away that the play was written by Robert Shaw, as in Quint and the dude in From Russia with Love. The play is brilliant.

Shaw died at 51. I am amazed by his talent.
 
You shouldn't make fun of someone's body image, especially if it's the result of a disease
But you're a comic, so you kinda get to push the limits of the rules

The problem with the joke wasn't that it was in bad taste. It was just lazy. It was a lame joke.

Smith should have slapped him and said "if you're going to get me up here at least land the joke, as-shole."
 
The problem with the joke wasn't that it was in bad taste. It was just lazy. It was a lame joke.

Smith should have slapped him and said "if you're going to get me up here at least land the joke, as-shole."

Except the joke did land cause people laughed...including Will. I guess love makes you laugh at stupid things too ;^)

Further proof Will is a cuck. If Jada wasn't there (cause well...you know) Will would have hugged Rock for it. She gave him a look and he torpedoed his reputation and cried like a child after the fact. Now he is in full on damage control.
 
Further proof Will is a cuck. If Jada wasn't there (cause well...you know) Will would have hugged Rock for it. She gave him a look and he torpedoed his reputation and cried like a child after the fact. Now he is in full on damage control.

He's not a cuck, he's a brand. He did a quick mental calculation and landed on "act like caveman, fans will love it." But it's 2022, not 1962, so fans were all "you can't answer an insult with violence you fucking moron, we're not Republicans."
 
The problem with the joke wasn't that it was in bad taste. It was just lazy. It was a lame joke.

Smith should have slapped him and said "if you're going to get me up here at least land the joke, as-shole."

YOu cut out the part where I said that "Chris Rock could have found a better joke there"
 
He's not a cuck, he's a brand. He did a quick mental calculation and landed on "act like caveman, fans will love it." But it's 2022, not 1962, so fans were all "you can't answer an insult with violence you fucking moron, we're not Republicans."

No he legit is a cuck...you need to pay attention to pop culture a bit more ;^)
 
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