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MLB 2020: We'll Play Ball, I Guess.

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RaceBoarder said:
It's actually quite simple. All you need to ask is if the Batter-Runner reached 1st base. Once he reaches 1st base the run is counted. If he doesn't reach first base, the run is negated.
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It's not actually that simple, because you have to ask the same question about every forced runner, and that means you can have situations where the order of outs you get removes the force and screws it up.

I think it's still well-ordered and deterministic (unlike the ECAC tie breaker) but it's both simpler and less simple than I thought it was.
 
Kepler said:
It's not actually that simple, because you have to ask the same question about every forced runner, and that means you can have situations where the order of outs you get removes the force and screws it up.

I think it's still well-ordered and deterministic (unlike the ECAC tie breaker) but it's both simpler and less simple than I thought it was.
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I've always thought "Is it a touched-base force? Time is irrelevant. Is it anything else? Time is relevant."
 
dxmnkd316 said:
I've always thought "Is it a touched-base force? Time is irrelevant. Is it anything else? Time is relevant."
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I think it is. Then why did you say you didn't know the rule, it sounds like you always knew it?

How the hell could I play and watch baseball and score games for fifty years and not just have never seen this but never even known this?
 
RaceBoarder said:
It's actually quite simple. All you need to ask is if the Batter-Runner reached 1st base. Once he reaches 1st base the run is counted. If he doesn't reach first base, the run is negated.
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One funny thing about this- it wasn't just the first baseman who had brain fade- the 2nd basement didn't realize the same thing until Baez headed back to first. And the play should have been just like a routine strike out/ dropped ball- just a slow toss to first, and nothing counted.
 
dxmnkd316 said:
I've always thought "Is it a touched-base force? Time is irrelevant. Is it anything else? Time is relevant."
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bases loaded
full count
two outs
.....runners go to take away a force out, and batter hits a grounder to short. SS fields and throws to first for the out. Dude on third no doubt crossed home before hand but doesn’t matter, no run
 
Kepler said:
I think it is. Then why did you say you didn't know the rule, it sounds like you always knew it?

How the hell could I play and watch baseball and score games for fifty years and not just have never seen this but never even known this?
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It’s not too surprising. The opportunities for a fourth out are incredibly limited.

In almost every scenario I’m thinking of, it requires a runner giving up on a play or some Merkle’s Boner walk-off. On top of that it requires the other team to know the rule to even try for the fourth out after they’ve gotten three.

edit: realized my scenario didn’t have anyone scoring, making timing irrelevant.

This is actually tougher than I thought to come up with.
 
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There's a great split second where the catcher realizes he can still try to get Baez out and where Baez realizes they can still get him out and they both snap to it. I love it. This is the new "Jameis Winston in the game versus Oregon" or "Sanchez butt-fumble".
 
Kepler said:
I think it is. Then why did you say you didn't know the rule, it sounds like you always knew it?

How the hell could I play and watch baseball and score games for fifty years and not just have never seen this but never even known this?
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But based on how I read the stack exchange link, if the runner going to first is tagged, time is also irrelevant. Is that not correct here?
 
dxmnkd316 said:
But based on how I read the stack exchange link, if the runner going to first is tagged, time is also irrelevant. Is that not correct here?
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Your interpretation is correct. The Batter-Runner must reach first base for any runs to count. It doesn't matter how he is retired. If he doesn't safely acquire 1st base all runs are voided. Once he touches 1st base legally, then it becomes a timing issue.
 
RaceBoarder said:
Your interpretation is correct. The Batter-Runner must reach first base for any runs to count. It doesn't matter how he is retired. If he doesn't safely acquire 1st base all runs are voided. Once he touches 1st base legally, then it becomes a timing issue.
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The most hard thing to understand is either 1) how is it the players didn't know this- even ONE really loud one. or 2) they somehow thought there were not 2 outs. The simple play and end of inning turned into a double (fielders choice) and a run.

Actually- what were the coaches doing? Should they not be yelling to "JUST TOUCH FIRST BASE!"
 
Josh Donaldson scored the 2 millionth run in MLB history tonight.

I remember Bob Watson scoring the millionth run in 1975.

I have been a conscious baseball fan for half of all runs scored in major league history.

Jesus fuck.
 
French Rage said:
What the hell is the image on the front of the Twins hat? A golf course?
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I'm still curious about this but haven't found it, could somebody post it please?

This rollout was apparently so bad it is now impossible to find any of them. They must already be on their way to Central Africa.
 
dxmnkd316 said:
How in the blue flying fuck are you supposed to bat against this? Degrom is a monster.

https://twitter.com/pitchingninja/status/1399567054018072577?s=21
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This is his release point for all his pitches last night:

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