MLB 2019: Every Year at Playoff Time, The Dodgers Find A Way to Choke.

[Hammer]

Re: MLB 2019: Every Year at Playoff Time, The Dodgers Find A Way to Choke.

Sounds like the Tigers most of the year.

 

[JF_Gophers]

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Twins didnt get the message about beating bad teams. Lose a series to the Sux.

 

[SJHovey]

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Twins didnt get the message about beating bad teams. Lose a series to the Sux.

That's been outside the norm, however, for this season. The Twins have been very, very good against the bad teams. It's part of the reason for their lead in the Central. Unfortunately for the Twins, they haven't had the same kind of success against playoff caliber teams.

I subscribe to a sports gambling newsletter and last weekend they broke down some stats regarding futures bets on baseball, and how the various contending teams have fared against other contenders. I was actually surprised at how poor the Twins record is against contending teams, down near the bottom (maybe .400 baseball, iirc?)

That's something they'll need to reverse if they want to advance in the playoffs.

 

[Kepler]

Re: MLB 2019: Every Year at Playoff Time, The Dodgers Find A Way to Choke.

That's been outside the norm, however, for this season. The Twins have been very, very good against the bad teams. It's part of the reason for their lead in the Central. Unfortunately for the Twins, they haven't had the same kind of success against playoff caliber teams.

I subscribe to a sports gambling newsletter and last weekend they broke down some stats regarding futures bets on baseball, and how the various contending teams have fared against other contenders. I was actually surprised at how poor the Twins record is against contending teams, down near the bottom (maybe .400 baseball, iirc?)

That's something they'll need to reverse if they want to advance in the playoffs.

This was the key to the Mets getting back into the race -- holding serve against contenders (4-3) and annihilating the second division (15-2).

But the rest of the schedule is basically contenders, and we can't just hold we have to advance. So now we find out whether we're any good or we just enjoyed a period of success against teams that are deliberately tanking.

I read a good article awhile back about teams a tad under .500 and how there's really no percentage in selling at the deadline anymore. There are so many teams tanking every season that the market has dried up. And there is no point in trying to bail when you're in that .450 - .490 no man's land because the teams below you have completely committed to sucking. You couldn't lose to them regularly even if you, literally, tried.

The other thing that's been happening, closely related, is an uptick in monster second halves. If you have a .500-ish team past the ASG now you're going to be playing a large number of truly horrific teams down the stretch -- you're going to win a sh-t ton of games. So you may as well stay in it. If injuries break right for rivals you may find yourself accidentally playing .600 down the stretch and in the WC race.

 

[joecct]

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A new take on launch angle??? My God!

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[SJHovey]

This was the key to the Mets getting back into the race -- holding serve against contenders (4-3) and annihilating the second division (15-2).

But the rest of the schedule is basically contenders, and we can't just hold we have to advance. So now we find out whether we're any good or we just enjoyed a period of success against teams that are deliberately tanking.

I read a good article awhile back about teams a tad under .500 and how there's really no percentage in selling at the deadline anymore. There are so many teams tanking every season that the market has dried up. And there is no point in trying to bail when you're in that .450 - .490 no man's land because the teams below you have completely committed to sucking. You couldn't lose to them regularly even if you, literally, tried.

The other thing that's been happening, closely related, is an uptick in monster second halves. If you have a .500-ish team past the ASG now you're going to be playing a large number of truly horrific teams down the stretch -- you're going to win a sh-t ton of games. So you may as well stay in it. If injuries break right for rivals you may find yourself accidentally playing .600 down the stretch and in the WC race.

September baseball sucks for many of these reasons. Too many teams tanking and too many teams with double digit leads in the standings.

 

[The Rube]

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That's been outside the norm, however, for this season. The Twins have been very, very good against the bad teams. It's part of the reason for their lead in the Central. Unfortunately for the Twins, they haven't had the same kind of success against playoff caliber teams.

I subscribe to a sports gambling newsletter and last weekend they broke down some stats regarding futures bets on baseball, and how the various contending teams have fared against other contenders. I was actually surprised at how poor the Twins record is against contending teams, down near the bottom (maybe .400 baseball, iirc?)

That's something they'll need to reverse if they want to advance in the playoffs.

In a playoff series, though, it's short-term, rather than long-term. If you have 2 awesome starters, and a decent 3rd, you're golden. I don't think the Twins have that, necessarily. In a 5 game series, it's short time off for your aces, and you plug in your other starters for middle relief, THEN your bullpen. You are at an advantage. The uber-balanced pitching staff doesn't necessarily work in a playoff format.

 

[aparch]

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I... uhh... found someone who needs to lay off the lead-paint flavored gas station pills...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Nick Castellanos tells Joe Maddon "Happy Opening Day" before every game<br><br>I asked him why<br><br>"Prove to me it's not"<br><br>"If what has happened is a memory and whats going to happen is a thought, you're taking yourself out of right now. So in that case, every day is Opening Day" <a href="https://twitter.com/WGNNews?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WGNNews</a> <a href="https://t.co/Bzn37s2Eiu">pic.twitter.com/Bzn37s2Eiu</a></p>— Rick Tarsitano (@RickTarsitano) <a href="https://twitter.com/RickTarsitano/status/1163965662697611265?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 21, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[RaceBoarder]

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I... uhh... found someone who needs to lay off the lead-paint flavored gas station pills...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Nick Castellanos tells Joe Maddon "Happy Opening Day" before every game<br><br>I asked him why<br><br>"Prove to me it's not"<br><br>"If what has happened is a memory and whats going to happen is a thought, you're taking yourself out of right now. So in that case, every day is Opening Day" <a href="https://twitter.com/WGNNews?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WGNNews</a> <a href="https://t.co/Bzn37s2Eiu">pic.twitter.com/Bzn37s2Eiu</a></p>— Rick Tarsitano (@RickTarsitano) <a href="https://twitter.com/RickTarsitano/status/1163965662697611265?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 21, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I bet he thinks the Snozeberries taste like Snozeberries

 

[The Rube]

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I actually get what he's trying to say.

Gotta prove yourself every time. It's Opening Day. Every start, every appearance.

 

[aparch]

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I actually get what he's trying to say.

Gotta prove yourself every time. It's Opening Day. Every start, every appearance.

There are ways to say that without sounding like he's been to every Walgreens in Lakeview looking for cases of Sudafed...

 

[The Rube]

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There are ways to say that without sounding like he's been to every Walgreens in Lakeview looking for cases of Sudafed...

I agree.

 

[TovarishchLisa]

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A's 6-1 on the current homestand against the Astros and Yankees. So much has gone wrong for this team this season and they still get it done:

-Blake Treinen went from historically good to not so good - really the pen in general (Trivino also fell off a cliff), though Petit has been nice and Hendriks excellent
-Khris Davis has like 2 home runs from June on after injuries
-A revolving door in the outfield especially with Laureano still out and Piscotty missing time
-A makeshift rotation especially after the best pitcher early-season in said rotation got busted for PEDs
-Going from a very productive season from Jed Lowrie to an abysmal season by Jurickson Profar at 2B
-Having to deal with a month of Kendrys Morales's defense
-Our two most MLB ready prospects constantly getting injured, delaying their arrivals at weaker positions (SP Jesus Luzardo and catcher Sean Murphy)

 

[joecct]

I actually get what he's trying to say.

Gotta prove yourself every time. It's Opening Day. Every start, every appearance.

For those of us married - every day is a wedding anniversary.

 

[state of hockey]

For those of us married - every day is a wedding anniversary.

Well this is terrible news.

 

[Kepler]

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For those of us married - every day is a wedding anniversary.

As with cancer, you are always in remission; never cured.

 

[burd]

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It's an odd game. Cubs beat Giants yesterday 12 - 11, with 27 combined hits. Today it's 1 - 0 in the eighth, with 5 combined hits. Of course, with the Cubs bullpen, SF could still score 11.

 

[French Rage]

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Of course, with the Cubs bullpen, SF could still score 11.

It's OK, with the Giants' bullpen, the Cubs will score 12.

 

[burd]

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It's OK, with the Giants' bullpen, the Cubs will score 12.

Must be nice going to Giants' games now. When we lived out there and went to night games at Candlestick (not often), it would turn shytty fast when the wind and fog rolled in.

 

[French Rage]

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Must be nice going to Giants' games now. When we lived out there and went to night games at Candlestick (not often), it would turn shytty fast when the wind and fog rolled in.

SBC/PacBell/AT&T (I'm not calling it Oracle) is a lovely park, and walkable from Caltrain.