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MLB 2012, Part 1 - It's here
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When watching the play in which Jeter allegedly broke his ankle I am taken by the fact that it was a very minor traumatic episode. He did not seem to catch his spikes in the ground and the twisting motion seemed slight if at all. The thought arises as to why such a minor impact caused such a serious injury? Jeter had been favoring this ankle for some time (weeks to ?months) and i wonder if medical treatment of whatever the injury had been included anything that might have made the area unstable and weaker. Would be interesting to know if his ankle area received any cortisone injections and how many over how long a period of time. usually the cortisone injected in these case can last up to 28 days but if done repeatedly, the half life of the steroid can be quite long. it would seem to me that any and all medical treatment would have been used to keep a player of his value in the lineup for the end of the season. Just curious.
When watching the play in which Jeter allegedly broke his ankle I am taken by the fact that it was a very minor traumatic episode. He did not seem to catch his spikes in the ground and the twisting motion seemed slight if at all. The thought arises as to why such a minor impact caused such a serious injury? Jeter had been favoring this ankle for some time (weeks to ?months) and i wonder if medical treatment of whatever the injury had been included anything that might have made the area unstable and weaker. Would be interesting to know if his ankle area received any cortisone injections and how many over how long a period of time. usually the cortisone injected in these case can last up to 28 days but if done repeatedly, the half life of the steroid can be quite long. it would seem to me that any and all medical treatment would have been used to keep a player of his value in the lineup for the end of the season. Just curious.
hockeyplayer1015
Capt
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Really not sure. I hadn't heard anything about any cortisone injections, however I suppose it is entirely possible. I agree that it did not appear to be a substantial injury, until he didn't get up. That's when I became worried that it could be serious.
According to TBS, his MRI today showed that it is more of a fracture you would see in an NFL player, rather than a baseball player, whatever that means. He's off to see Dr. Anderson in Charlotte, who is the Foot and Ankle specialist for the Panthers, and on the sub-committee for the NFL regarding those types of injuries. Hoping to find a solution that could expedite the recovery rather than 3 month rest and healing.
When watching the play in which Jeter allegedly broke his ankle I am taken by the fact that it was a very minor traumatic episode. He did not seem to catch his spikes in the ground and the twisting motion seemed slight if at all. The thought arises as to why such a minor impact caused such a serious injury? Jeter had been favoring this ankle for some time (weeks to ?months) and i wonder if medical treatment of whatever the injury had been included anything that might have made the area unstable and weaker. Would be interesting to know if his ankle area received any cortisone injections and how many over how long a period of time. usually the cortisone injected in these case can last up to 28 days but if done repeatedly, the half life of the steroid can be quite long. it would seem to me that any and all medical treatment would have been used to keep a player of his value in the lineup for the end of the season. Just curious.
Really not sure. I hadn't heard anything about any cortisone injections, however I suppose it is entirely possible. I agree that it did not appear to be a substantial injury, until he didn't get up. That's when I became worried that it could be serious.
According to TBS, his MRI today showed that it is more of a fracture you would see in an NFL player, rather than a baseball player, whatever that means. He's off to see Dr. Anderson in Charlotte, who is the Foot and Ankle specialist for the Panthers, and on the sub-committee for the NFL regarding those types of injuries. Hoping to find a solution that could expedite the recovery rather than 3 month rest and healing.
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With the pennant race on the line-I just suspect the Yankees would do whatever it took to keep a star player in the line up. And Jeter is not one to ever complain or shirk responsibility. He is a player. He would never want to let his team down and he bleeds pinstripes. I suspect what they are saying is that the fracture is more of a blunt force injury seen in contact sports as opposed to a more typical twisting injury seen in baseball infielders. Makes me even more suspicious that he might have had a linear or stress fracture there before yesterday. The bone loss and reabsorption you see with cortisone can be substantial but it usually takes a little time. Not sure if this has any bearing on the injury-but it will certainly have a great deal of influence on his recovery both in the amount of time and whether he can recover fully. They have not indicated this at all-but at his age-this could be far more serious than anyone has mentioned.
With the pennant race on the line-I just suspect the Yankees would do whatever it took to keep a star player in the line up. And Jeter is not one to ever complain or shirk responsibility. He is a player. He would never want to let his team down and he bleeds pinstripes. I suspect what they are saying is that the fracture is more of a blunt force injury seen in contact sports as opposed to a more typical twisting injury seen in baseball infielders. Makes me even more suspicious that he might have had a linear or stress fracture there before yesterday. The bone loss and reabsorption you see with cortisone can be substantial but it usually takes a little time. Not sure if this has any bearing on the injury-but it will certainly have a great deal of influence on his recovery both in the amount of time and whether he can recover fully. They have not indicated this at all-but at his age-this could be far more serious than anyone has mentioned.
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A family member who was a physician used to refer to "the index of suspicion."
A family member who was a physician used to refer to "the index of suspicion."
MountieBoyOz
Eater of Worlds
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At least Ichiro won't get his ring.
This makes me smile.
At least Ichiro won't get his ring.
This makes me smile.Re: MLB 2012, Part 1 - It's here
BLAMEBELTRAN has the mediocre slash line of 0.370/0.481/0.824 for his postseason career.
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The Cards have become the series favorites, but BRAPB is still saying that the Giants advancing (now in 7 games) is the most likely outcome. The Tigers are now nearly 3:1 favorites and probability says that they'll lose one game before closing out their series and advancing to the Fall Classic.
Generic disclaimers about BRAPB being retrodictive, not taking into account home-field advantage, pitching matchups, or "momentum", and it being based on the assumption that if Team A beats Team B twice for every loss and Team B also has a 2:1 winning ratio over Team C, then Team A should have a 4:1 winning ratio over Team C apply.
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| Team | BRAPB | RRWP | SOS |
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| Yankees | 161.0 | 0.6182 | 116.6 |
| Tigers | 129.4 | 0.5647 | 105.7 |
| Giants | 122.4 | 0.5509 | 89.6 |
| Cardinals | 105.6 | 0.5138 | 86.3 |
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| Series | | Each | Advances in || Makes |
| | BRAPB | Game | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 || WS |
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| Cardinals | 105.6 | 46.3 | 9.94 | 16.00 | 17.18 | 15.37 || 58.5% |
| Giants | 122.4 | 53.7 | xxxxx | 8.30 | 15.39 | 17.82 || 41.5% |
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| Tigers | 129.4 | 44.6 | 19.85 | 22.01 | 18.31 | 13.53 || 73.7% |
| Yankees | 161.0 | 55.4 | xxxxx | xxxxx | 9.45 | 16.84 || 26.3% |
---------------------------------------------------------------------The Cards have become the series favorites, but BRAPB is still saying that the Giants advancing (now in 7 games) is the most likely outcome. The Tigers are now nearly 3:1 favorites and probability says that they'll lose one game before closing out their series and advancing to the Fall Classic.
Generic disclaimers about BRAPB being retrodictive, not taking into account home-field advantage, pitching matchups, or "momentum", and it being based on the assumption that if Team A beats Team B twice for every loss and Team B also has a 2:1 winning ratio over Team C, then Team A should have a 4:1 winning ratio over Team C apply.
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Burgie-thanks so much for posting these stats. Fascinating. This year seems to be the antistats year. I was joking about Beltran. it just seems that whenever i count him out-even way back in Houston-he rises up and bites me. i would think for the Yankees to move into the World Series, they would have to face and beat Verlander twice-and that may not be reflected in the statistics. If i had to guess i would make Detroit now a 10-1 favorite to move on but that is just my head talking. I would definitely agree that the STl/SF series is still a big toss up-neither of these teams have made it easy on themselves this year and every game is like a box of chocolates.
Burgie-thanks so much for posting these stats. Fascinating. This year seems to be the antistats year. I was joking about Beltran. it just seems that whenever i count him out-even way back in Houston-he rises up and bites me. i would think for the Yankees to move into the World Series, they would have to face and beat Verlander twice-and that may not be reflected in the statistics. If i had to guess i would make Detroit now a 10-1 favorite to move on but that is just my head talking. I would definitely agree that the STl/SF series is still a big toss up-neither of these teams have made it easy on themselves this year and every game is like a box of chocolates.
DaveStPaul
New member
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Hate to out myself as a potential noob, but: People hate Ichiro?!?
At least Ichiro won't get his ring.
Hate to out myself as a potential noob, but: People hate Ichiro?!?
JF_Gophers
2147483647
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Stats aficionados find him to be vastly over rated even back when he was getting 200+ hits per season. Lack of power and no walks are his biggest knocks.
Looks like he is playing his best ball in three years since joining the Yanks.
Stats aficionados find him to be vastly over rated even back when he was getting 200+ hits per season. Lack of power and no walks are his biggest knocks.
Looks like he is playing his best ball in three years since joining the Yanks.
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With regards to the Yankees / Tigers, I think that the Yankees should only have to beat Verlander once. He's starting tonight tomorrow and should get one more start, if necessary. The Yankees can lose one more game and still advance (although I hope they don't!).
Doc, 370/481/824 (batting average / on-base percentage / slugging percentage) is fantastic. Beltran is certainly a tremendous athlete. I miss him being in a Met uniform. I understand that the Mets were seriously cash-strapped this past offseason, but sometimes I wish that they had put in a better offer to bring him in.
With regards to the Yankees / Tigers, I think that the Yankees should only have to beat Verlander once. He's starting tonight tomorrow and should get one more start, if necessary. The Yankees can lose one more game and still advance (although I hope they don't!).
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I thought the Mets gave up on Beltran way too soon. They were basing some of their decision on his medical history and status. This is one medical case i cannot speak with any authority about-I just have not enough information. But when he is hot-as he was one year for Houston-he can carry a team on his back for a series or two or more. I was joking of course-i knew his slugging percentage. What is fascinating is the way that some athletes just fourish when others have given up on them.
As far as Verlander-I do not expect the Yankees to win 4 straight. If they do advance I suspect it will have to be in 7 games and I would bet the farm that would mean they would have to beat him twice. Could they do it? Sure-but for me it is like filling an inside straight. The stats show the odds of them winning but the stats cannot add in the difficulty of beating him twice in a row in less than a week.
I thought the Mets gave up on Beltran way too soon. They were basing some of their decision on his medical history and status. This is one medical case i cannot speak with any authority about-I just have not enough information. But when he is hot-as he was one year for Houston-he can carry a team on his back for a series or two or more. I was joking of course-i knew his slugging percentage. What is fascinating is the way that some athletes just fourish when others have given up on them.
As far as Verlander-I do not expect the Yankees to win 4 straight. If they do advance I suspect it will have to be in 7 games and I would bet the farm that would mean they would have to beat him twice. Could they do it? Sure-but for me it is like filling an inside straight. The stats show the odds of them winning but the stats cannot add in the difficulty of beating him twice in a row in less than a week.
ExileOnDaytonStreet
Drunkard
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Question: When does St Louis's deal with Satan expire?
Question: When does St Louis's deal with Satan expire?
state of hockey
He fixes the cable?
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This might get ugly.
This might get ugly.