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MLB 2012, Part 1 - It's here

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SJHovey said:
It goes to show you that it is almost impossible to convict someone of perjury, yet the Feds keep tilting at that windmill.
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I don't understand why, though. It seems to me all you need to show is (1) he made a statement, (2) the statement was false, and (3) he knew it was false when he said it. (3) must be the hard part, but if somebody jammed a needle in your ass and you lied about it, what's the defense? You didn't know somebody was jamming your ass with a needle? Drive-by needling?
 
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Kepler said:
I don't understand why, though. It seems to me all you need to show is (1) he made a statement, (2) the statement was false, and (3) he knew it was false when he said it. (3) must be the hard part, but if somebody jammed a needle in your ass and you lied about it, what's the defense? You didn't know somebody was jamming your ass with a needle? Drive-by needling?
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As far as I can tell, it's because perjury trials turn into "He said, she said" with no evidence even possible, and the federal witnesses are invariably scum that have a record of their own or some other massive credibility issue.
 
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bronconick said:
As far as I can tell, it's because perjury trials turn into "He said, she said" with no evidence even possible, and the federal witnesses are invariably scum that have a record of their own or some other massive credibility issue.
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Pretty much. It's not what you know, it's what you can prove.
 
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Kepler said:
I don't understand why, though. It seems to me all you need to show is (1) he made a statement, (2) the statement was false, and (3) he knew it was false when he said it. (3) must be the hard part, but if somebody jammed a needle in your ass and you lied about it, what's the defense? You didn't know somebody was jamming your ass with a needle? Drive-by needling?
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I suspect it's for a variety of reasons.

First, it's a pretty technical crime. I think you really end up getting into the tiny details of what the witness said compared with what the witness was asked, what the person thought they were asked, and most important, whether they knew it was untrue. A lot of area for reasonable doubt to be created.

Second, a perjury charge always comes across as a prosecution failure, in my opinion, and I think appears that way to many jurors. It's like the prosecutors are admitting they couldn't get anything bad on the guy, so now we'll charge him with lying. And the strange thing is, it's even harder to prove. Think about it. If you can't charge and prove Roger Clemens was illegally possessing or using steroids, how in the world are you going to prove he was lying about using them?

In the end I think prosecutors end up using it more as a tool of embarrassment for the defendant rather than a legitimate effort to put someone away. We "know" they're dirty, but we can't prove it. But they have to be punished in some way for their deeds so let's call them a liar and hope they are convicted in the court of public opinion.
 
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The baseball gods get even with the Yankees
CC on the 15 day DL
Pettitte out 6 weeks with broken leg.

Get well soon, guys from a Boston fan.
 
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I love living here in Boston. Or did I move to New York, I forget... Yankees/Sox 4 hour marathon on MLB Network yesterday, both ends of the day/night DH today (MLBN now, then FOX at 7:00) and we complete the four game series tomorrow on ESPN. Remind me, do they cancel the playoffs in Major League Baseball if BOTH the Yanks and the RedSox miss the post-season, since these seem to be the only two teams MLB promotes?
 
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