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MLB 2012, Part 1 - It's here
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dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: MLB 2012, Part 1 - It's here
BINGO! The rest of your post also makes some fantastic points.
BINGO! The rest of your post also makes some fantastic points.
bigblue_dl
Armed
Re: MLB 2012, Part 1 - It's here
This was my reaction too.Yeah... That's the reason.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: MLB 2012, Part 1 - It's here
"You don't like the Yankees or Red Sox? You must hate baseball. And America."
"You don't like the Yankees or Red Sox? You must hate baseball. And America."
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Re: MLB 2012, Part 1 - It's here
Yep, those Rams-Cardinals/Dolphins-Jaguars/Seahawks-49ers games are going to be epic.
The NFL doesn't hype individual players? Please share whatever it is you're smoking. The NFL is popular because the salary cap makes almost every team viable (increased parity) and because of that dirty little secret centered in the Nevada desert that the league doesn't like to talk about. The mandatory mid-week injury report is for the good of the game, right? It has nothing to do with gambling...
The job of the networks is not to "grow the sport." The job of the networks is to put on programming that will draw the most viewers. There are only a handful of national teams that will brings the ratings they seek. Sorry. And yes, in the past most news was carried by newspapers or the radio. Welcome to the 21st Century where those things have been replaced by satellite TV and the Internet. Nice of you to have noticed.
It sounds like the problem most of you have is with the networks, not the Red Sox nor their fan base. Maybe try directing your displeasure correctly and not aim it at the team or the fans. If it bothers you so much that the same few teams land on national broadcasts that you don't want to watch anymore, that's a shame, but you can always buy an MLB.tv or Extra Innings package so you can watch that exciting Padres-Astros matchup.
Yep, those Rams-Cardinals/Dolphins-Jaguars/Seahawks-49ers games are going to be epic.
The NFL doesn't hype individual players? Please share whatever it is you're smoking. The NFL is popular because the salary cap makes almost every team viable (increased parity) and because of that dirty little secret centered in the Nevada desert that the league doesn't like to talk about. The mandatory mid-week injury report is for the good of the game, right? It has nothing to do with gambling...
The job of the networks is not to "grow the sport." The job of the networks is to put on programming that will draw the most viewers. There are only a handful of national teams that will brings the ratings they seek. Sorry. And yes, in the past most news was carried by newspapers or the radio. Welcome to the 21st Century where those things have been replaced by satellite TV and the Internet. Nice of you to have noticed.
It sounds like the problem most of you have is with the networks, not the Red Sox nor their fan base. Maybe try directing your displeasure correctly and not aim it at the team or the fans. If it bothers you so much that the same few teams land on national broadcasts that you don't want to watch anymore, that's a shame, but you can always buy an MLB.tv or Extra Innings package so you can watch that exciting Padres-Astros matchup.
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dxmnkd316
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Re: MLB 2012, Part 1 - It's here
(2) Marketing over product on field
(1) Pink anything
(2) Marketing over product on field
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Re: MLB 2012, Part 1 - It's here
Those are problems real Red Sox fans have...I doubt they're the issues they have with the team...
Jen came closest describing the "woe is me" fan. We're lucky enough to live in a city that has had a damm good decade when it comes to athletics. I think Felger did the math that showed since 2001 we've had one of the last four teams 20-something times. That's a phenomenal run. There is no room for the "woe is me" fan just as there's no room for the damm pink hats.
Those are problems real Red Sox fans have...I doubt they're the issues they have with the team...
Jen came closest describing the "woe is me" fan. We're lucky enough to live in a city that has had a damm good decade when it comes to athletics. I think Felger did the math that showed since 2001 we've had one of the last four teams 20-something times. That's a phenomenal run. There is no room for the "woe is me" fan just as there's no room for the damm pink hats.
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WeAreNDHockey
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I love it when someone refers to a post and completely misreads or misrepresents a point made, and by the very act of quoting it show the huge mistake they made. I never said the NFL doesn't hype individual players. As noted by your very act of quoting, I said the NFL spends as much time promoting the entire league as it does the team of the year OR INDIVIDUAL PLAYERS. But you need to share what you are smoking instead if you don't see the NFL doing a much better job of hyping the entire league and any and all games to a much better extent than does MLB. Watch the countdown shows this season on ESPN or CBS or FOX if you don't see that. They will go out of their way to include features and information on all the games. Perhaps that is done simply to placate the gamblers out there, but for whatever reason, they do.
MLB right now is thinking -- and has thought for the last decade or so -- in a very short term fashion. My points in all of this is that the impression given by the unceasing hype of the Red Sox is that they are as popular as the rest of the league combined, or the VERY mistaken impression that it has always been this way. In the past the league and the networks covering it did not focus on one or two teams. In fact in the early days of ESPN Sunday Night Baseball, that network made a point of not doing a broadcast more than once a season from any one ballpark. They didn't cover all the teams, but they made a point of shining a light on many more teams than they do now. As I said, I lament the passing of a different era in televised sports. Nowadays very few people are fans of a particular sport. They have a team they want to watch. If there are a million Royals fans but a million and one Red Sox fans, the Sox games will be shown every time. But that does not mean they are infinitely more popular. I have no problem at all with actual fans of the Red Sox. Just don't believe every Tom Dick or Harry that you meet in middle America who tells you that they have been rooting for the Red Sox since ought-whatever. It isn't true.
I love it when someone refers to a post and completely misreads or misrepresents a point made, and by the very act of quoting it show the huge mistake they made. I never said the NFL doesn't hype individual players. As noted by your very act of quoting, I said the NFL spends as much time promoting the entire league as it does the team of the year OR INDIVIDUAL PLAYERS. But you need to share what you are smoking instead if you don't see the NFL doing a much better job of hyping the entire league and any and all games to a much better extent than does MLB. Watch the countdown shows this season on ESPN or CBS or FOX if you don't see that. They will go out of their way to include features and information on all the games. Perhaps that is done simply to placate the gamblers out there, but for whatever reason, they do.
MLB right now is thinking -- and has thought for the last decade or so -- in a very short term fashion. My points in all of this is that the impression given by the unceasing hype of the Red Sox is that they are as popular as the rest of the league combined, or the VERY mistaken impression that it has always been this way. In the past the league and the networks covering it did not focus on one or two teams. In fact in the early days of ESPN Sunday Night Baseball, that network made a point of not doing a broadcast more than once a season from any one ballpark. They didn't cover all the teams, but they made a point of shining a light on many more teams than they do now. As I said, I lament the passing of a different era in televised sports. Nowadays very few people are fans of a particular sport. They have a team they want to watch. If there are a million Royals fans but a million and one Red Sox fans, the Sox games will be shown every time. But that does not mean they are infinitely more popular. I have no problem at all with actual fans of the Red Sox. Just don't believe every Tom Dick or Harry that you meet in middle America who tells you that they have been rooting for the Red Sox since ought-whatever. It isn't true.
Gophers #1
Let go Vikings go
Re: MLB 2012, Part 1 - It's here
Twins and Rangers game now going into a delay. A major lightning bolt just hit not far from the park. Ryan Doumit and Mike Napoli immediately fled to their dugouts.
Here is a video of it. FS Southwest feed.
http://www.twitvid.com/CIHC4
Twins and Rangers game now going into a delay. A major lightning bolt just hit not far from the park. Ryan Doumit and Mike Napoli immediately fled to their dugouts.
Here is a video of it. FS Southwest feed.
http://www.twitvid.com/CIHC4
MountieBoyOz
Eater of Worlds
Re: MLB 2012, Part 1 - It's here
Lightning is something you don't mess with. Glad to see they got out of there in a hurry. I don't blame Willingham for hitting the deck either.
Here's my two cents on the Yanks-Sox. I understand they are going to be on TV because most times the games matter. However, I love the NFL's model of flexing out of games that don't matter. I'd love to see the Pirates or the Orioles get on Sunday Night some time. It would be a nice reward for them for playing so well.
Lightning is something you don't mess with. Glad to see they got out of there in a hurry. I don't blame Willingham for hitting the deck either.
Here's my two cents on the Yanks-Sox. I understand they are going to be on TV because most times the games matter. However, I love the NFL's model of flexing out of games that don't matter. I'd love to see the Pirates or the Orioles get on Sunday Night some time. It would be a nice reward for them for playing so well.
Twitch Boy
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Re: MLB 2012, Part 1 - It's here
MLB video:
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Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: MLB 2012, Part 1 - It's here
"Woe is me" has been a part of the Boston fan identity forever. Every Boston team could win every title for the next ten years and Boston fans would still feel put upon.
The way to drive Bostonians crazy is not to point out when their teams lose. It's to remind them that, win or lose, they still aren't important.
"Woe is me" has been a part of the Boston fan identity forever. Every Boston team could win every title for the next ten years and Boston fans would still feel put upon.
The way to drive Bostonians crazy is not to point out when their teams lose. It's to remind them that, win or lose, they still aren't important.
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You keep telling yourself that
You really shouldn't lump all Boston fans together like that. I'm a Boston fan and I just pointed out how farcical that ideology is.
The way to drive Bostonians crazy is not to point out when their teams lose. It's to remind them that, win or lose, they still aren't important.
You keep telling yourself that