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Minnesota Twins 2010: Part II - The Franchise Strikes Back

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thebrain said:
They spend money, they make money. I have no problem with it, quit *****ing about it, it's old and overplayed.
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You're still missing the point. The twins aren't going to spend $200+ million a year. They're going to spend about $100-$120 million a year. How do you improve the current team using that figure?
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
You're still missing the point. The twins aren't going to spend $200+ million a year. They're going to spend about $100-$120 million a year. How do you improve the current team using that figure?
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Not blowing it on Punto and Crain. Or spend more to make more, or be happy being the best in what's been a poor division....
 
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I bet if we hit 100 points better than we have with the bases loaded, we'd have, oh, maybe 5 more wins, just to randomly throw a number out there.

Now, if we expand that to RISP......imagine that.

And I'm in the corner that those avgs will improve/etc, and we'll obviously see the difference against teams like the NYY.
 
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thebrain said:
Not blowing it on Punto and Crain.
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Ok, that's $6,000,000. In 2014 Morneau is a free agent. Do you resign him at around $20,000,000 (which is essentially the $6,000,000 right there)?
 
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April 10: HR, 2 rbis Twins win 2-1 at white sox
April 12: HR, 2 rbis Twins win 5-2 hosting the red sox
May 16: HR, 4 rbis Twins win 6-3 at new york
May 27: 2 HR, 5 rbis Twins leading 8-2 hosting NY

Not exactly a large sample size to be fair. Plus, if they'd lost one of those games, people would say that winning 3/4 is nice, but they still can't win in the playoffs.

edit: And does anyone know what the twins are hitting with RISP? I still can't find it anywhere online as a team.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
Ok, that's $6,000,000. In 2014 Morneau is a free agent. Do you resign him at around $20,000,000 (which is essentially the $6,000,000 right there)?
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Yes(assuming he's still productive and health), they'll have the money as long as they keep filling Target Field. How do keep filling Target Field? Win. And how do win, get the best.
 
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Woooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!! We beat the Yankeeeees!!!!!!!!!! World Series here we come!!!! :D :D :D

;)
 
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thebrain said:
Yes(assuming he's still productive and health), they'll have the money as long as they keep filling Target Field. How do keep filling Target Field? Win. And how do win, get the best.
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I definitely hope they resign morneau and I'm pretty sure they'll find a way to get it done. Nathan is nearing retirement and that will free up $12 million, so that's a win/lose situation. That $12 million (or at least a portion of it) should be used to find a more permanent closer. Getting an ace will probably require a heck of a lot more money than the twins can afford, unless morneau doesn't resign.

It will be interesting to see what Target Field brings in year-to-year. Hopefully revenue continues to increase and I'd like to assume the budget will increase accordingly.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
I definitely hope they resign morneau and I'm pretty sure they'll find a way to get it done. Nathan is nearing retirement and that will free up $12 million, so that's a win/lose situation. That $12 million (or at least a portion of it) should be used to find a more permanent closer. Getting an ace will probably require a heck of a lot more money than the twins can afford, unless morneau doesn't resign.

It will be interesting to see what Target Field brings in year-to-year. Hopefully revenue continues to increase and I'd like to assume the budget will increase accordingly.
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Yeah, I think we've seen the last of Joe Nathan as a Twin. With 12-18 months of rehab, next year's season is a question and that'd be the end of his contract I think. I'd like to find out if the number of Twins pitchers having Tommy John surgery is high compared to rest of the league.
 
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thebrain said:
Yeah, I think we've seen the last of Joe Nathan as a Twin. With 12-18 months of rehab, next year's season is a question and that'd be the end of his contract I think. I'd like to find out if the number of Twins pitchers having Tommy John surgery is high compared to rest of the league.
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While not necessarily Tommy John, I think the Cubs have had major pitching injury woes in the recent past, and there were questions about how their staff coached them (something in the mechanics being taught).
 
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Brenthoven said:
While not necessarily Tommy John, I think the Cubs have had major pitching injury woes in the recent past, and there were questions about how their staff coached them (something in the mechanics being taught).
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Three Tommy Johns for the Twins in the last 3-4 years.
 
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thebrain said:
Three Tommy Johns for the Twins in the last 3-4 years.
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This was in the Wood/Prior era, both of whom I believe had Tommy John surgery.

I'm not saying the Twins don't have a concern there (is it the types of pitchers they aim for? The coaching? I dunno), but there are other teams out there with the same sorts of problems.

Maybe it's a larger picture of what pitchers have become? 12 year olds throwing curveballs and sliders and such can't be the best thing.
 
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Brenthoven said:
Maybe it's a larger picture of what pitchers have become? 12 year olds throwing curveballs and sliders and such can't be the best thing.
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That could be it too, I'd like to see stats if there are certain ball clubs where pitchers are having more than others and why that is. I don't pay attention to many teams outside of Minnesota so I'm not sure what other players and clubs have had them.
 
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thebrain said:
That could be it too, I'd like to see stats if there are certain ball clubs where pitchers are having more than others and why that is. I don't pay attention to many teams outside of Minnesota so I'm not sure what other players and clubs have had them.
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And I'd like to see the comparisons on injuries (or rather, what types of injuries) of the non-modern day pitcher who regularly tossed 130 pitches in an outing for the whole season, and today's pitchers who are all on some sort of pitch count (it seems like that, anyway). And of course, the 4-man vs 5-man rotation plays a part in that, too.
 
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Brenthoven said:
And I'd like to see the comparisons on injuries (or rather, what types of injuries) of the non-modern day pitcher who regularly tossed 130 pitches in an outing for the whole season, and today's pitchers who are all on some sort of pitch count (it seems like that, anyway). And of course, the 4-man vs 5-man rotation plays a part in that, too.
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Ask Jack Morris
 
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