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Minnesota Gophers Season Thread: Kangas Kool-Aid For All!

Re: Minnesota Gophers Season Thread: Kangas Kool-Aid For All!

We don't know that!!!111!1!!1!

It's a "lower body injury." ;)

Apparently it is some type of knee injury (possibly a knee sprain), but not serious enough for surgery. It sounds like he's been on the RICE diet (Rest, Ice, Compress, Elevate).

On senior captain Jay Barriball: "Jay will not play this weekend. But there is a good chance he could play the following weekend against Bemidji. The worst of it is behind him right now. It looks like he will get back in our lineup before the season ends, which is good news for us."

Barriball has missed the last four games with a lower-body injury believed to be a knee.
 
Re: Minnesota Gophers Season Thread: Kangas Kool-Aid For All!

Apparently it is some type of knee injury (possibly a knee sprain), but not serious enough for surgery. It sounds like he's been on the RICE diet (Rest, Ice, Compress, Elevate).

Thanks. I guess I should have been more specific. I knew it was his knee but hadn't heard anything about the severity. The quote you had seems to cover this.

BTW, why is this thread so dead? I thought with their better play of late, there would be more people interested in chatting.
 
Re: Minnesota Gophers Season Thread: Kangas Kool-Aid For All!

Because it is still a long shot for them to have any hope of tournament life. That and thanks to their early and mid-season blunders there is literally no room for error.
 
Re: Minnesota Gophers Season Thread: Kangas Kool-Aid For All!

Because it is still a long shot for them to have any hope of tournament life. That and thanks to their early and mid-season blunders there is literally no room for error.

This. What anyone is doing is just running scenario's for the Gophers to salvage the season. Usually we're figuring out what seed their getting in the NCAA's, and what kind of shot they have at a Final Five championship. Now we're hoping that x team loses, or y team wins so their PWR number can go up just enough to get on the bubble.

I imagine the mode will not change regardless the outcome of this weekend. Although I imagine any hope of making the NCAA's without literally winning the Final Five will disappear unless they sweep. Unless someone has a scenario worked up for a 3-point, or 2-point weekend that I'm not aware of. Could be.
 
Re: Minnesota Gophers Season Thread: Kangas Kool-Aid For All!

Although I imagine any hope of making the NCAA's without literally winning the Final Five will disappear unless they sweep. Unless someone has a scenario worked up for a 3-point, or 2-point weekend that I'm not aware of. Could be.
The next two series (unless Bemidji remains a TUC somehow at season's end) are all about MN's RPI. Since that is the tie-breaker in all tied comparisons, it's very important that MN get at least 7 of 8 points in the final two weeks. Ideally, if they're going to tie one of these teams, it should be Bemidji - that would at least leave the door open a little bit for them to be a TUC (and boost MN's record in that component in the process). A loss would be very damaging, although whether or not it would lead to MN having to win the F5 to get in is impossible to know at this time - there's simply too many ifs, and MN is in a group of roughly ten teams on either side of the bubble that can make it in without an autobid.
 
Re: Minnesota Gophers Season Thread: Kangas Kool-Aid For All!

I think someone needs to start an Offseason thread sooner next year... cause face it since that thread was started - The Gophers have been playing actual Gopher hockey. I am very proud of the turn around we have seen since the winter break. I hope they can keep it up. With the all but certain home ice for the first round of the playoffs... do I dare to mention an possible NCAA bubble if they sweep BSU, Sweep the first round of the WCHA playoffs and IF they can win one game in the Final 5?????
 
Re: Minnesota Gophers Season Thread: Kangas Kool-Aid For All!

Need two points, should get at least three, four would be gravy.

Four points, sweep first round of WCHA playoffs, and we should be in. I have a bunch of posts on GPL outlining this. I finally bit the bullet and put together a PWR calculator in excel. It's a beast.

Two points would require the gophers to make the semis in the F5 and with a small bit of help, they could still get in.
 
Re: Minnesota Gophers Season Thread: Kangas Kool-Aid For All!

Need two points, should get at least three, four would be gravy.

Four points, sweep first round of WCHA playoffs, and we should be in. I have a bunch of posts on GPL outlining this. I finally bit the bullet and put together a PWR calculator in excel. It's a beast.

Two points would require the gophers to make the semis in the F5 and with a small bit of help, they could still get in.

We need a PWR challenge. Who can produce the correct results the soonest after the result of the Gopher game.

Contestants: Bakunin (who runs it pretty much through his head) vs dx (who has a RalphPa-like spreadsheet).
 
Re: Minnesota Gophers Season Thread: Kangas Kool-Aid For All!

I'm going to be busy both nights. Plus SS.com has them up pretty soon after the game is over. My spreadsheet is better at predicting than anything out there right now. Until USCHO puts their PWR Predictor up. But since they don't usually do that until the conference tournaments are set, I'll stick with my spreadsheet.

That said, Bakunin is clearly better than any other person I've come across when it comes to PWR analysis, but no human is able to run the calculations in their head. No way, no how.
 
Re: Minnesota Gophers Season Thread: Kangas Kool-Aid For All!

I'm going to be busy both nights. Plus SS.com has them up pretty soon after the game is over. My spreadsheet is better at predicting than anything out there right now. Until USCHO puts their PWR Predictor up. But since they don't usually do that until the conference tournaments are set, I'll stick with my spreadsheet.

That said, Bakunin is clearly better than any other person I've come across when it comes to PWR analysis, but no human is able to run the calculations in their head. No way, no how.

This is true; I was there in person:

A couple years ago at the F5, we were getting up to date scores from around the conferences from the WCHA writer. Bakunin re-calculated the PWR in his head within 4-5 minutes, and ranked who was getting in and their seeding, depending on the results we received. And he was correct minus a team or two at worst (bubble teams with no autobid).

Trust me on this. I didn't believe it until I saw it.
 
Re: Minnesota Gophers Season Thread: Kangas Kool-Aid For All!

I must apologize for being skeptical, but I stand by it. The RPI calculation alone is mind boggling. Especially if you're more than two or three games away from being settled. It's just not possible. Excel, on a dual processor machine with 4 GB of RAM takes 0.5-7 seconds to calculate it. That's eons for a computer.
 
Re: Minnesota Gophers Season Thread: Kangas Kool-Aid For All!

I must apologize for being skeptical, but I stand by it. The RPI calculation alone is mind boggling. Especially if you're more than two or three games away from being settled. It's just not possible. Excel, on a dual processor machine with 4 GB of RAM takes 0.5-7 seconds to calculate it. That's eons for a computer.

I was more than skeptical. He's (to borrow a taunt from Twitch Boy) Rain Man when it comes to PWR. I had to see it to believe it. It's understandable to be a skeptic until you see the proof.
 
Re: Minnesota Gophers Season Thread: Kangas Kool-Aid For All!

The most amazing sight this weekend had to be Kangas' fro.....dam!

This is true; I was there in person:

A couple years ago at the F5, we were getting up to date scores from around the conferences from the WCHA writer. Bakunin re-calculated the PWR in his head within 4-5 minutes, and ranked who was getting in and their seeding, depending on the results we received. And he was correct minus a team or two at worst (bubble teams with no autobid).

Trust me on this. I didn't believe it until I saw it.

No compliments, it just encourages him. :)
 
Re: Minnesota Gophers Season Thread: Kangas Kool-Aid For All!

but no human is able to run the calculations in their head. No way, no how.
I wasn't running calculations in my head. The day all that stuff took place was Saturday, so there was just one day's worth of games to worry about. The really hilarious thing was the fact I nailed the bracket for the '08 tourney right after the games concluded and before Moy posted his column. I proceeded to give him a lot of **** about it (good-natured of course) in St. Louis. :D

As for where we stand right now, I'd feel a lot better about MN's at-large chances with a sweep this weekend AND next weekend. Even then, they still need at least one win at the F5 and preferably two. I do not want them to end up 15th overall, as that leaves them on the wrong side of the bubble should an upset conference tourney winner happen elsewhere. If the improbable happens and MN wins the F5, they would probably end up as a 3rd seed (11th-12th overall). Of course, there's a lot of ifs involved - most of the teams MN is trying to pass in the pairwise have been winning lately, and that's making things tougher.
 
Re: Minnesota Gophers Season Thread: Kangas Kool-Aid For All!

As for where we stand right now, I'd feel a lot better about MN's at-large chances with a sweep this weekend AND next weekend. Even then, they still need at least one win at the F5 and preferably two. I do not want them to end up 15th overall, as that leaves them on the wrong side of the bubble should an upset conference tourney winner happen elsewhere. If the improbable happens and MN wins the F5, they would probably end up as a 3rd seed (11th-12th overall). Of course, there's a lot of ifs involved - most of the teams MN is trying to pass in the pairwise have been winning lately, and that's making things tougher.


Is Ce**** aware that all four lines are tied for 19th in the PWR?
 
Re: Minnesota Gophers Season Thread: Kangas Kool-Aid For All!

I wasn't running calculations in my head. The day all that stuff took place was Saturday, so there was just one day's worth of games to worry about. The really hilarious thing was the fact I nailed the bracket for the '08 tourney right after the games concluded and before Moy posted his column. I proceeded to give him a lot of **** about it (good-natured of course) in St. Louis. :D

As for where we stand right now, I'd feel a lot better about MN's at-large chances with a sweep this weekend AND next weekend. Even then, they still need at least one win at the F5 and preferably two. I do not want them to end up 15th overall, as that leaves them on the wrong side of the bubble should an upset conference tourney winner happen elsewhere. If the improbable happens and MN wins the F5, they would probably end up as a 3rd seed (11th-12th overall). Of course, there's a lot of ifs involved - most of the teams MN is trying to pass in the pairwise have been winning lately, and that's making things tougher.

Correct, 12th overall.
1 Yale 28
2 North Dakota 26
3 Boston College 26
4 Michigan 26
5 Denver 24
6 Notre Dame 21
7 Miami 21
8 Union 20
9 Merrimack 20
10 New Hampshire 19
11 Nebraska-Omaha 19
12 Minnesota 18
13 Minnesota-Duluth 17
14 Dartmouth 15
15 Maine 13
16 Rensselaer 13
17 Western Michigan 12
18 Colorado College 12
19 Boston University 10
20 Alaska 8
21 RIT 7
22 Wisconsin 6
 
Re: Minnesota Gophers Season Thread: Kangas Kool-Aid For All!

I wasn't running calculations in my head. The day all that stuff took place was Saturday, so there was just one day's worth of games to worry about. The really hilarious thing was the fact I nailed the bracket for the '08 tourney right after the games concluded and before Moy posted his column. I proceeded to give him a lot of **** about it (good-natured of course) in St. Louis. :D

As for where we stand right now, I'd feel a lot better about MN's at-large chances with a sweep this weekend AND next weekend. Even then, they still need at least one win at the F5 and preferably two. I do not want them to end up 15th overall, as that leaves them on the wrong side of the bubble should an upset conference tourney winner happen elsewhere. If the improbable happens and MN wins the F5, they would probably end up as a 3rd seed (11th-12th overall). Of course, there's a lot of ifs involved - most of the teams MN is trying to pass in the pairwise have been winning lately, and that's making things tougher.

Are you sure it was Saturday? I could be wrong, obviously, but the Sat F5 is one that I rarely attend.
 
Re: Minnesota Gophers Season Thread: Kangas Kool-Aid For All!

Correct, 12th overall.
Impressed yet? That was without the aid of spreadsheets or additional research. It was just an off the cuff guess based on what I saw this past weekend. :p

Brent - my memory is a bit hazy, but I'm pretty sure it was Saturday. I think SCSU-UW were playing the 3rd place game, and we were just hanging out at the GPL tailgate.
 
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