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Minnesota Golden Gopher Season 2019-2020: Motzko 2.0
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Re: Minnesota Golden Gopher Season 2019-2020: Motzko 2.0
To be honest I was just hoping for a split. Glad the players felt differently - great comeback win this evening!
Re: Minnesota Golden Gopher Season 2019-2020: Motzko 2.0
Hoping for or expecting? Come on man none of these Big Ten teams are that scary to lose hope for a sweep.
I hope for a sweep next weekend. Expectations/odds? Something like
45% PSU sweep
10% PSU "three points"
25% split
10% Gopher "three points"
10% Gophers sweep
I choose the last one but any of that last 45% would be solid for the conference race.
Hoping for or expecting? Come on man none of these Big Ten teams are that scary to lose hope for a sweep.
I hope for a sweep next weekend. Expectations/odds? Something like
45% PSU sweep
10% PSU "three points"
25% split
10% Gopher "three points"
10% Gophers sweep
I choose the last one but any of that last 45% would be solid for the conference race.
Re: Minnesota Golden Gopher Season 2019-2020: Motzko 2.0
I Hope for a win in every game. And I am sick of losing to PSU so will be disappointed if MN doesn't come away with more points. (Although I am not expecting it.)
I Hope for a win in every game. And I am sick of losing to PSU so will be disappointed if MN doesn't come away with more points. (Although I am not expecting it.)
Re: Minnesota Golden Gopher Season 2019-2020: Motzko 2.0
Same. I think we owe them one (or maybe two). Should be plenty of motivation to turn the tables on 'em.
Re: Minnesota Golden Gopher Season 2019-2020: Motzko 2.0
So did anyone actually think at the break that this team actually would be in a position at this point in the season where there is potential to play themselves into a playoff spot without winning the Big10 tourney?
So did anyone actually think at the break that this team actually would be in a position at this point in the season where there is potential to play themselves into a playoff spot without winning the Big10 tourney?
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Re: Minnesota Golden Gopher Season 2019-2020: Motzko 2.0
Coach Doug Woog's life will always be an inspiration to Gopher hockey and others in the hockey world and beyond. This season is dedicated to the Wooger and the Gophers will wear the "Woog patch" until season's end. Good to finally see the latent Gopher talent on display turning this season around. Gophers are 9-2-1 since wearing the Woog patch for the Mariucci Classic.
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GO GOPHERS!!
Coach Doug Woog's life will always be an inspiration to Gopher hockey and others in the hockey world and beyond. This season is dedicated to the Wooger and the Gophers will wear the "Woog patch" until season's end. Good to finally see the latent Gopher talent on display turning this season around. Gophers are 9-2-1 since wearing the Woog patch for the Mariucci Classic.
<img src="https://apps.startribune.com/blogs/user_images/dickiedunn_1577478513_Woog_patch.jpg" class="irc_mi" style="margin-top: 10px;" height="340" width="550">
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GO GOPHERS!!
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Re: Minnesota Golden Gopher Season 2019-2020: Motzko 2.0
Nice setup by McManus to Meyers getting it done from the slot. Gophers had won only 2/11 games when trailing after 2. Nice comeback win...they may need another one of those this weekend vs Penn St.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr">������<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Gophers?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Gophers</a> <a href="https://t.co/Qaca0rR3f0">https://t.co/Qaca0rR3f0</a></p>— Minnesota Men’s Hockey (@GopherHockey) <a href="https://twitter.com/GopherHockey/status/1229868853439672320?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
PSU lost and tied ND three weeks ago on home ice, and have faltered a bit in their last ten games (3-4-3). Penn ended the Gopher's 2017-18 season with a sweep. Time for some payback. Three points or more this weekend puts the Gophers in a nice spot for the B1G title, a first round bye and home ice in the B1G tourney.
Nice setup by McManus to Meyers getting it done from the slot. Gophers had won only 2/11 games when trailing after 2. Nice comeback win...they may need another one of those this weekend vs Penn St.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr">������<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Gophers?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Gophers</a> <a href="https://t.co/Qaca0rR3f0">https://t.co/Qaca0rR3f0</a></p>— Minnesota Men’s Hockey (@GopherHockey) <a href="https://twitter.com/GopherHockey/status/1229868853439672320?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
PSU lost and tied ND three weeks ago on home ice, and have faltered a bit in their last ten games (3-4-3). Penn ended the Gopher's 2017-18 season with a sweep. Time for some payback. Three points or more this weekend puts the Gophers in a nice spot for the B1G title, a first round bye and home ice in the B1G tourney.
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Re: Minnesota Golden Gopher Season 2019-2020: Motzko 2.0
Definitely would put them in a good spot. But, there is the PWR to think about as well. Should the Gophers win the Reg Season BIG title, their PWR would likely fall with a home-ice loss in the BIG semis. So, the scenarios as I see them....
W and a T (NCAA rules) vs PSU....split with Mich.....Big title, and probably PWR safe because of good opposition here. Anything more than this would likely leave them safe in any case. Anything better than this for results and I think the NCAA bid is safe, barring some strange parlay of Conf Tourney winners nationwide.
Splits all the way....Probably BIG title. In this scenario, a BIG semi win might be necessary to qualify for NCAAs
Less than splits....PWR drag, and therefore needing wins in the BIG tourney. With less than splits, and winning the BIG title (possible, very possible..for example, 2 pts this weekend and a split v Michigan would do it), it's very possible that the Gophers would still need to win the BIG tourney to qualify for NCAAs
Less than splits this weekend, and the better situation MIGHT be to not win the title, to get the home sweep in the quarters for PWR purposes.
Nice setup by McManus to Meyers getting it done from the slot. Gophers had won only 2/11 games when trailing after 2. Nice comeback win...they may need another one of those this weekend vs Penn St.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr">������<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Gophers?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Gophers</a> <a href="https://t.co/Qaca0rR3f0">https://t.co/Qaca0rR3f0</a></p>— Minnesota Men’s Hockey (@GopherHockey) <a href="https://twitter.com/GopherHockey/status/1229868853439672320?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
PSU lost and tied ND three weeks ago on home ice, and have faltered a bit in their last ten games (3-4-3). Penn ended the Gopher's 2017-18 season with a sweep. Time for some payback. Three points or more this weekend puts the Gophers in a nice spot for the B1G title, a first round bye and home ice in the B1G tourney.
Definitely would put them in a good spot. But, there is the PWR to think about as well. Should the Gophers win the Reg Season BIG title, their PWR would likely fall with a home-ice loss in the BIG semis. So, the scenarios as I see them....
W and a T (NCAA rules) vs PSU....split with Mich.....Big title, and probably PWR safe because of good opposition here. Anything more than this would likely leave them safe in any case. Anything better than this for results and I think the NCAA bid is safe, barring some strange parlay of Conf Tourney winners nationwide.
Splits all the way....Probably BIG title. In this scenario, a BIG semi win might be necessary to qualify for NCAAs
Less than splits....PWR drag, and therefore needing wins in the BIG tourney. With less than splits, and winning the BIG title (possible, very possible..for example, 2 pts this weekend and a split v Michigan would do it), it's very possible that the Gophers would still need to win the BIG tourney to qualify for NCAAs
Less than splits this weekend, and the better situation MIGHT be to not win the title, to get the home sweep in the quarters for PWR purposes.
Re: Minnesota Golden Gopher Season 2019-2020: Motzko 2.0
Lots of scenarios still remain to be played out, but there are a couple where splits with Penn and Mich. (6 pts) locks the Gophers into the B1G title. As you mentioned, even an L and T w/SOW vs Penn and Mich split wins the title, but that won't help us much in the PWR. It's still a little early to crunch the PWR numbers until there's a clearer picture of the 4th band after this weekend.
Lots of scenarios still remain to be played out, but there are a couple where splits with Penn and Mich. (6 pts) locks the Gophers into the B1G title. As you mentioned, even an L and T w/SOW vs Penn and Mich split wins the title, but that won't help us much in the PWR. It's still a little early to crunch the PWR numbers until there's a clearer picture of the 4th band after this weekend.
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Re: Minnesota Golden Gopher Season 2019-2020: Motzko 2.0
Completely agree, Steve. In my mind I was trying to compare 2 scenarios....
1) 2 splits and a BIG title, with a loss in the BIG semi.... (would mean 2-3 in 5 games)
2) a win, a tie and 2 losses, and no BIG title, but a sweep in the BIG quarter finals, and then a semi-final loss. That would be (1-2-1, 2-0, 0-1) or (3-3-1) in 7 games. The latter of these is the better if you want a higher PWR.
So, my point was...in the end, the best idea might NOT be a BIG title. At least not a BIG title by barely scraping by.
Now, on the other hand, if you hand me 3-1 or 2-0-2 in the next 4 games, and a BIG title. I'll take that, because I think that, even with a semi loss, that's a good chance to make the NCAAs.
Completely agree, Steve. In my mind I was trying to compare 2 scenarios....
1) 2 splits and a BIG title, with a loss in the BIG semi.... (would mean 2-3 in 5 games)
2) a win, a tie and 2 losses, and no BIG title, but a sweep in the BIG quarter finals, and then a semi-final loss. That would be (1-2-1, 2-0, 0-1) or (3-3-1) in 7 games. The latter of these is the better if you want a higher PWR.
So, my point was...in the end, the best idea might NOT be a BIG title. At least not a BIG title by barely scraping by.
Now, on the other hand, if you hand me 3-1 or 2-0-2 in the next 4 games, and a BIG title. I'll take that, because I think that, even with a semi loss, that's a good chance to make the NCAAs.
Re: Minnesota Golden Gopher Season 2019-2020: Motzko 2.0
Just win games... Get the bye. Go 3-1 and hang a banner then try to at least win the semi.
To rely on all the math while not taking care of business will just bite you in the butt. We saw a few years ago that like seven things having to go wrong on the last day can happen.
Just win games... Get the bye. Go 3-1 and hang a banner then try to at least win the semi.
To rely on all the math while not taking care of business will just bite you in the butt. We saw a few years ago that like seven things having to go wrong on the last day can happen.
Re: Minnesota Golden Gopher Season 2019-2020: Motzko 2.0
This. Winning the league but missing the NCAAs would be bad. That was my point.
This. Winning the league but missing the NCAAs would be bad. That was my point.
Re: Minnesota Golden Gopher Season 2019-2020: Motzko 2.0
The BEST idea is to win the B1G and secure the first round bye, positioning the Gophers as the #1 Seed vs. Lowest Advancing Seed at Mariucci, where the Gophers would be the clear favorite. Barring any late season meltdown, and given the Gopher's recent W/L trendline, and a bye and home ice advantage in the tourney if they win the title, assuming a B1G semi final loss is perhaps a bridge too far.
I expect B1G playoff style hockey to begin this weekend until season end, with wins being hard to come by and sweeps even more so.
Just for the heck of it, I calculated the PWR at season end with ALL remaining B1G series as splits top to bottom. With the Gophers splitting with Penn and Mich, I have them winning the B1G title with 42 pts. and Penn and Mich tied for second with 39.
That lands the Gophers at #13 in the PWR going into the B1G tourney. If they win the semi, they could feasibly squeak into the 3rd band depending on what Ohio State, Maine, Western Michigan, and Mass.-Lowell do. Even if they lose the semi, they can still land at #14 for an at large bid. Given that most conferences are stacked with ranked teams, my assumption at this point is American International is the only autobid. Note: This post is subject to change.
The BEST idea is to win the B1G and secure the first round bye, positioning the Gophers as the #1 Seed vs. Lowest Advancing Seed at Mariucci, where the Gophers would be the clear favorite. Barring any late season meltdown, and given the Gopher's recent W/L trendline, and a bye and home ice advantage in the tourney if they win the title, assuming a B1G semi final loss is perhaps a bridge too far.
I expect B1G playoff style hockey to begin this weekend until season end, with wins being hard to come by and sweeps even more so.
Just for the heck of it, I calculated the PWR at season end with ALL remaining B1G series as splits top to bottom. With the Gophers splitting with Penn and Mich, I have them winning the B1G title with 42 pts. and Penn and Mich tied for second with 39.
That lands the Gophers at #13 in the PWR going into the B1G tourney. If they win the semi, they could feasibly squeak into the 3rd band depending on what Ohio State, Maine, Western Michigan, and Mass.-Lowell do. Even if they lose the semi, they can still land at #14 for an at large bid. Given that most conferences are stacked with ranked teams, my assumption at this point is American International is the only autobid. Note: This post is subject to change.