Minnesota Girls High School Hockey IV

[FiveHoleFrenzy]

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This is more D1 players than many D1 teams have.

Edina might be good enough to make the USCHO poster's poll. For that matter Blake as well.

Speaking of Blake and Edina...Great matchup tonight at 7:30PM for the section 6AA final at Parade Ice Garden. Might see some of you there?

And not to slight the other real good section final matchups tonight in 4AA with Hill Murray and White Bear Lake at Aldrich Arena at 7:00PM, 5AA with Centennial and Blaine at Roseville Ice Arena at 7:00 PM, and 2AA with Eden Prairie and Shakopee at Braemar Arena at 7:00PM.

 

[ne7minder]

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Edina might be good enough to make the USCHO poster's poll. For that matter Blake as well.

Speaking of Blake and Edina...Great matchup tonight at 7:30PM for the section 6AA final at Parade Ice Garden. Might see some of you there?

And not to slight the other real good section final matchups tonight in 4AA with Hill Murray and White Bear Lake at Aldrich Arena at 7:00PM, 5AA with Centennial and Blaine at Roseville Ice Arena at 7:00 PM, and 2AA with Eden Prairie and Shakopee at Braemar Arena at 7:00PM.

We'll be there. Saw Edina dismantle Blake earlier and hoping for a closer game this time. Would like to see SP/Shak but then were were several games worth seeing the last couple of days.

 

[Ralph Baer]

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Edina wins 4-2.

 

[FiveHoleFrenzy]

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Really good hockey game that kinda slipped away from Blake starting with giving up a goal in the last couple of seconds of the 2nd period when they had a 2-1 lead. I felt like goaltender for Blake seemed a bit shakey at times. Edina's first line was really good and I was very impressed with Emily Oden's game tonight. Looking forward to seeing her in a Gopher uniform next year.

 

[ne7minder]

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Really good hockey game that kinda slipped away from Blake starting with giving up a goal in the last couple of seconds of the 2nd period when they had a 2-1 lead. I felt like goaltender for Blake seemed a bit shakey at times. Edina's first line was really good and I was very impressed with Emily Oden's game tonight. Looking forward to seeing her in a Gopher uniform next year.

It looked to me like Blake ran out of steam as the game wore on, Edina just has too many horses. Blake dominated the 1st but could only go up 1-0, they extended that to 2-0 early on in the second and then things started tipping the green way. It was 2-1 with 2.5 seconds to go when Blake iced the puck. Edina was ready & Blake thought the period was over so they went to the locker room tied. Third period was pretty much all Edina. I was surprised Blake didn't pull the goalie down 2-4 with 3:28 left and on the PP. THat was a great hockey game though.

One other thought: This was as physical a game as I have ever seen high school girls play. Not dirty, it was well played and except for standard crap after a crease scramble not ugly. The girls understand how to put body on body exceptionally well, the game is evolving and so far at least there is a very good balance.

 

[ne7minder]

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One interesting note from last nights game. I have never seen so many dives in a game in my life. None were called although several were very obvious from the stands. One particularly bad actor was Edina's 13 CC Bowlby who had two oscar worthy performances where she appeared to have been murdered by a player how touched her slightly. She laid on the ice & on the second one even got up holding her arm like it had been ripped off. When no call came she skated over & got set for the faceoff. It was by no means exclusive to her or to Edina, Blake took a couple dives but nobody did them as well.

I hate to see this sort of thing almost as much as I hate to see rough stuff not called.

 

[GopherBadger]

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Nice to see Blake go down! Should be an all Green Final!

 

[FiveHoleFrenzy]

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One interesting note from last nights game. I have never seen so many dives in a game in my life. None were called although several were very obvious from the stands. One particularly bad actor was Edina's 13 CC Bowlby who had two oscar worthy performances where she appeared to have been murdered by a player how touched her slightly. She laid on the ice & on the second one even got up holding her arm like it had been ripped off. When no call came she skated over & got set for the faceoff. It was by no means exclusive to her or to Edina, Blake took a couple dives but nobody did them as well.

I hate to see this sort of thing almost as much as I hate to see rough stuff not called.

I was curious as to if you would comment on that. I was sitting on the Edina side just about at center ice and it was very interesting in an eyebrow raising way to see some of those folks absolutely come unglued. On that second Bowlby play you refer to I thought there were going to be some folks come right out of the stands after the ref. My wife looked at me and I looked at her and shrugged and said...What would these people do if they had to watch WCHA refs?

You're right about the depth on Edina being a factor. Plus they are very well coached.

Did you stay for the awards after the game? If you did, I would be curious to know what you thought of #7 of Blake and how she reacted to losing.

 

[ne7minder]

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I was curious as to if you would comment on that. I was sitting on the Edina side just about at center ice and it was very interesting in an eyebrow raising way to see some of those folks absolutely come unglued. On that second Bowlby play you refer to I thought there were going to be some folks come right out of the stands after the ref. My wife looked at me and I looked at her and shrugged and said...What would these people do if they had to watch WCHA refs?

You're right about the depth on Edina being a factor. Plus they are very well coached.

Did you stay for the awards after the game? If you did, I would be curious to know what you thought of #7 of Blake and how she reacted to losing.

No, we beat it as soon as the horn sounded. I did notice one of Blake's players bust a very nice composite stick on the goal pipe. I understand the heartbreak of losing (I have experienced it often enough!) and they are just kids but it is disappointing to see them lose composure like that. We were across the way on the Blake side at center ice. Needless to say they saw that non-call differently. Then when one of their kids took what looked like a dive to me went nuts so I can imagine.

 

[D2D]

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Brackets set for both A and AA State Tournaments:

Class A

Seeded teams:
#1 Warroad
#2 Breck
#3 Red Wing
#4 Alexandria
#5 St. Paul United

Quarterfinals 2/21/18
11 AM - Marshall vs. Breck
1 PM - Proctor/Hermantown vs. Red Wing

6 PM New Ulm vs. Warroad
8 PM St. Paul United vs. Alexandria

Class AA

Seeded teams:
#1 Edina
#2 Centennial
#3 Hill-Murray
#4 Andover
#5 Eden Prairie

Quarterfinals 2/22/18
11 AM - Lakeville South vs. Centennial
1 PM - Eagan vs. Hill-Murray

6 PM - Brainerd vs. Edina
8 PM - Eden Prairie vs. Andover

 

[FiveHoleFrenzy]

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No, we beat it as soon as the horn sounded. I did notice one of Blake's players bust a very nice composite stick on the goal pipe. I understand the heartbreak of losing (I have experienced it often enough!) and they are just kids but it is disappointing to see them lose composure like that. We were across the way on the Blake side at center ice. Needless to say they saw that non-call differently. Then when one of their kids took what looked like a dive to me went nuts so I can imagine.

Cornell recruit and is from Every Day I Need Attention to boot...

Blake did step up to AA competition so now they know how Breck felt the last coupel of years in single A.

 

[Ahockeydad]

One interesting note from last nights game. I have never seen so many dives in a game in my life. None were called although several were very obvious from the stands. One particularly bad actor was Edina's 13 CC Bowlby who had two oscar worthy performances where she appeared to have been murdered by a player how touched her slightly. She laid on the ice & on the second one even got up holding her arm like it had been ripped off. When no call came she skated over & got set for the faceoff. It was by no means exclusive to her or to Edina, Blake took a couple dives but nobody did them as well.

I hate to see this sort of thing almost as much as I hate to see rough stuff not called.

I wish they would give 2 minute penalty’s for faking. They can hand out yellow cards for faking in Soccer but it is rare but I have seen it called. It is so bad that 6-7 year old soccer players are taking dives trying to get calls.

 

[mattj711]

Cornell recruit and is from Every Day I Need Attention to boot...

Blake did step up to AA competition so now they know how Breck felt the last coupel of years in single A.

Just curious if the cornell recruit is the one that broke her stick or took a dive? Also, could you give me a scouting report on the two cornell recruits that play for Blake, Izzy Daniel and Lily Delianedis?

 

[ne7minder]

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I wish they would give 2 minute penalty’s for faking. They can hand out yellow cards for faking in Soccer but it is rare but I have seen it called. It is so bad that 6-7 year old soccer players are taking dives trying to get calls.

Agreed. It seems to be getting worse and I think part of that is refs being afraid to call it. Too often when they do it is coincidental with a trip or hook. At that game I saw 4 very obvious dives and another 4 that were hard to call but looked fishy. Granted the game is actually easier to call sitting up high with a clear view but given the large number they could not have missed them all.

 

[FiveHoleFrenzy]

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Just curious if the cornell recruit is the one that broke her stick or took a dive? Also, could you give me a scouting report on the two cornell recruits that play for Blake, Izzy Daniel and Lily Delianedis?

I don't think either Daniel or Delianedis took a dive but maybe ne7minder can speak to that more specifically. No issues at all with the sportsmanship of Daniel and I don't think it was Delianedis breaking her stick as I just saw her throw it at the end of the game and when she received the "participation" ribbon when the awards were given out she threw that as well skating back to the line. That is kind of a worthless thing to have to go through but it just kind of stood out compared to most of the rest.

Dilianedis has the bigger upside of the two...really good skater but a bit like Taylor Heise, in that the stride looks a little unorthodox. Good passer and a sneaky good shot.

Daniel can get up and down the rink as well and has a little bit more well rounded game, but she is a year older as well.

I kinda figured one of these two would be Gopher commitments but Cornell is getting two good ones.

 

[mattj711]

I don't think either Daniel or Delianedis took a dive but maybe ne7minder can speak to that more specifically. No issues at all with the sportsmanship of Daniel and I don't think it was Delianedis breaking her stick as I just saw her throw it at the end of the game and when she received the "participation" ribbon when the awards were given out she threw that as well skating back to the line. That is kind of a worthless thing to have to go through but it just kind of stood out compared to most of the rest.

Dilianedis has the bigger upside of the two...really good skater but a bit like Taylor Heise, in that the stride looks a little unorthodox. Good passer and a sneaky good shot.

Daniel can get up and down the rink as well and has a little bit more well rounded game, but she is a year older as well.

I kinda figured one of these two would be Gopher commitments but Cornell is getting two good ones.

Thanks!

 

[D2D]

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I kinda figured one of these two would be Gopher commitments but Cornell is getting two good ones.

Well you obviously don't have enough scholarships to land everyone you'd like, but it seems to me that the Gophers have missed on more of the real talented Minnesota high school players (including some who've blossomed into real talented players after high school) than used to be the case. Granted there will always be some who "get away" for one reason or another, but looking back it sure would be nice to have had another crack at names like Rooney, Curtis, Bullock, Heising, Lund, Bowman, Dahlquist, Snodgrass, Norby, and others whose names escape me right now. For sure it's very much an inexact science, but you do hope to attract "more than your share" of Minnesota's very best every year, open scholarships permitting.

 

[ne7minder]

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I don't think either Daniel or Delianedis took a dive but maybe ne7minder can speak to that more specifically. No issues at all with the sportsmanship of Daniel and I don't think it was Delianedis breaking her stick as I just saw her throw it at the end of the game and when she received the "participation" ribbon when the awards were given out she threw that as well skating back to the line. That is kind of a worthless thing to have to go through but it just kind of stood out compared to most of the rest.

Sorry, I can't tell you who I saw diving other than that I noticed the Bowlby kid because she really played it up. Agree that Cornell is getting a couple of good players.

 

[ne7minder]

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Well you obviously don't have enough scholarships to land everyone you'd like, but it seems to me that the Gophers have missed on more of the real talented Minnesota high school players (including some who've blossomed into real talented players after high school) than used to be the case. Granted there will always be some who "get away" for one reason or another, but looking back it sure would be nice to have had another crack at names like Rooney, Curtis, Bullock, Heising, Lund, Bowman, Dahlquist, Snodgrass, Norby, and others whose names escape me right now. For sure it's very much an inexact science, but you do hope to attract "more than your share" of Minnesota's very best every year, open scholarships permitting.

I think there are several problems. First is that there is too much pressure to recruit too young. You will always guess wrong a couple of times. Next I think some kids might not fit a specific schools program. I know coaches, if they are honest, will tell potentials that they will fit/grow/play more at a different school. (Pieper transferred on the advice of her old coach because MN had the degree program she wanted). Last, I think kids will think of more than just the rink when they look at schools. Campus size, atmosphere, reputation all can make a kid want to pick a different school. TL;DR: some will always "get away" for one reason or another.

 

[FiveHoleFrenzy]

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Thanks!

Mattj711...I don't know if you saw any information earlier on the stream of the first Edina/Blake meeting on Jan 20th but that stream is archived for viewing on this site:

http://www.youthhockeyhub.com/page/show/2658649-the-show-archived-games-

Go to the third column "Rink 3 Games" and locate the entry for Blake vs Edina game 1/20 at 4PM. The game was a bit delayed in starting so you can go to about the 7 minute mark for the start of the game. You'll get a look at both #7 and #8 for Blake if you care to.