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Minnesota Girls High School Hockey IV

Re: Minnesota Girls High School Hockey IV

D2D said:
Well there's that, but then again, according to the latest KRACH, they got outshot nearly two-to-one by a team that has 74 other Minnesota teams ranked ahead of them.

http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_OA_20170115.htm
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I mean, now your just piling on...:)

Speaking of piling on, To tease those poor hockey starved easterners there is a pretty decent matchup tonight at 7PM at Blake's arena (in Hopkins) between Blaine and Blake which will have 3 future Gopher recruits to watch if you care to attend. :)
 
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FiveHoleFrenzy said:
Speaking of piling on........pretty decent matchup tonight at 7PM at Blake's arena (in Hopkins) between Blaine and Blake which will have 3 future Gopher recruits to watch if you care to attend. :)
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And speaking of viewing future Gophers, Amy Potomak will be in town this weekend with her Pacific Steelers team for five games at Mariucci as part of the annual JWHL playing at Mariucci and Ridder.

The Steelers schedule....

Friday
9:00 a.m. vs. Washington Pride
7:15 p.m. vs. Boston Shamrocks

Saturday
7:00 a.m. vs. Ridley College
5:30 p.m. vs. North American Hockey Academy

Sunday
9:00 a.m. vs. Ridley College

again, all of the Steelers games are at Mariucci
 
Re: Minnesota Girls High School Hockey IV

Timothy A said:
Oh that's funny, but I'm the first one to admit Wisconsin Girls HS Hockey is relatively unskilled when compared to rodentsota. Obviously that's why all the uber talented WI HS girls tend to play HS hockey elsewhere.
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Thats true. Have we ever thanked you for sending that Kessel girl our way?
 
Re: Minnesota Girls High School Hockey IV

Last rankings before sectional play:

GIRLS CLASS AA (first-place votes) – FEB 1st, 2017
Rank Team
1. Edina (10)
2. Hill-Murray
3. Maple Grove
4. Blaine
5. Eden Prairie
6. Elk River/Zimmerman
7. Minnetonka
8. Centennial
9. Lakeville South
10. Cretin-Derham Hall
11. Chaska/Chanhassen
12. Forest Lake
13. Brainerd/Little Falls
14. Mounds View
15. Hopkins/Park
16. White Bear Lake
17. Eagan
18. Wayzata
19. Grand Rapids/Greenway
20. Roseau
Receiving votes: Spring Lake Park/Coon Rapids, Shakopee, Lakeville North, Eastview


GIRLS CLASS A (first-place votes) – FEB 1st, 2017
Rank Team
1. Blake (10)
2. Breck
3. St. Paul United
4. Proctor/Hermantown
5. Warroad
6. Delano/Rockford
7. Red Wing
8. Princeton
9. East Grand Forks
10. Thief River Falls
11. New Prague
12. Mounds Westonka
13. Moose Lake Area
14. Alexandria
15. Hutchinson
16. Hibbing/Chisholm
17. Northfield
18. South St. Paul
19. Owatonna
20. Fergus Falls
Receiving votes: New Ulm, Mahtomedi, Orono
 
Re: Minnesota Girls High School Hockey IV

For those of us casual fans, would it be too much trouble to put the section #s next to the schools?

Thanks
 
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joecct said:
For those of us casual fans, would it be too much trouble to put the section #s next to the schools?

Thanks
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Last rankings before sectional play:

GIRLS CLASS AA (first-place votes) – FEB 1st, 2017
Rank Team
1. Edina (10)-- Sec 6
2. Hill-Murray-- Sec 4
3. Maple Grove-- Sec 5
4. Blaine-- Sec 5
5. Eden Prairie-- Sec 2
6. Elk River/Zimmerman-- Sec 7
7. Minnetonka-- Sec 2
8. Centennial-- Sec 5
9. Lakeville South-- Sec 1
10. Cretin-Derham Hall-- Sec 6
11. Chaska/Chanhassen-- Sec 2
12. Forest Lake-- Sec 7
13. Brainerd/Little Falls-- Sec 8
14. Mounds View-- Sec 4
15. Hopkins/Park-- Sec 6
16. White Bear Lake-- Sec 4
17. Eagan-- Sec 3
18. Wayzata-- Sec 6
19. Grand Rapids/Greenway-- Sec 7
20. Roseau-- Sec 8
Receiving votes: Spring Lake Park/Coon Rapids, Shakopee, Lakeville North, Eastview


GIRLS CLASS A (first-place votes) – FEB 1st, 2017
Rank Team
1. Blake (10)-- Sec 5
2. Breck-- Sec 5
3. St. Paul United-- Sec 4
4. Proctor/Hermantown-- Sec 7
5. Warroad-- Sec 8
6. Delano/Rockford--Sec 2
7. Red Wing-- Sec 1
8. Princeton-- Sec 5
9. East Grand Forks-- Sec 8
10. Thief River Falls-- Sec 8
11. New Prague-- Sec 2
12. Mounds Westonka-- Sec 2
13. Moose Lake Area-- Sec 7
14. Alexandria-- Sec 6
15. Hutchinson-- Sec 2
16. Hibbing/Chisholm-- Sec 7
17. Northfield-- Sec 1
18. South St. Paul-- Sec 4
19. Owatonna-- Sec 1
20. Fergus Falls-- Sec 6
Receiving votes: New Ulm, Mahtomedi, Orono
 
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joecct said:
For those of us casual fans, would it be too much trouble to put the section #s next to the schools?

Thanks
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Section Brackets are not out yet on Minnesota Girls Hockey Hub or the MSHSL website yet so I went based off of last years section brackets- hopefully there wasn't any changes since then.
I also tried Follow the Puck but they just have the boys. It wasn't easy since during the regular season standings they only list conferences not sections. Not sure when I'll get to the A schools since I have to leave soon.

GIRLS CLASS AA (first-place votes) – FEB 1st, 2017
Rank Team
1. Edina (10) 6AA
2. Hill-Murray 4AA
3. Maple Grove 5AA
4. Blaine 5AA
5. Eden Prairie 2AA
6. Elk River/Zimmerman 7AA
7. Minnetonka 2AA
8. Centennial 5AA
9. Lakeville South 1AA
10. Cretin-Derham Hall 6AA
11. Chaska/Chanhassen 2AA
12. Forest Lake 7AA
13. Brainerd/Little Falls 8AA
14. Mounds View 4AA
15. Hopkins/Park 6AA
16. White Bear Lake 4AA
17. Eagan 3AA
18. Wayzata 6AA
19. Grand Rapids/Greenway 7AA
20. Roseau 8AA
Receiving votes: Spring Lake Park/Coon Rapids 5AA, Shakopee 2AA, Lakeville North 1AA, Eastview 3AA

Looks like someone beat me to it.

Just the one's left...
Receiving votes: New Ulm 2A, Mahtomedi 4A, Orono 2A
 
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KTDC said:
GIRLS CLASS A (first-place votes) – FEB 1st, 2017
Rank Team
1. Blake (10)-- Sec 5
2. Breck-- Sec 5
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Year after year, this is the most unfortunate part about the Class A bracket. In a tournament with at most three or four really good teams, two are in the same section.
 
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pgb-ohio said:
How can Cretin-Derham Hall & Edina be in the Section? At first glance, that looks like the ultimate gerrymander. Perhaps there's an interesting story to be told?
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Cretin was in 4AA the year before last. Maybe to even out the number of teams per section? Not sure. Looking into it.
Those Section realignments were in March of 2015 according to the Stillwater Gazette.
Girls hockey (Section AA)

Hill-Murray, Irondale, Mounds View, North St. Paul, Roseville, Stillwater, Tartan, White Bear Lake and Woodbury.

Who’s in: Irondale, Mounds View and Woodbury.

Who’s out: Cretin-Derham Hall.

Section realignment: Who’s going where?
Published March 26, 2015 at 5:49 pm


“Every two years the MSHSL reclassifies teams into new competitive sections. Every school in the MSHSL reports new enrollments to the Minnesota Department of Education on Oct. 1,” stated the MSHSL via a news release. “The MDE releases these enrollments in early February and we take our current registrations and rank the teams by enrollment to put them into classes. Changes in enrollment, new programs and the formation or dissolution of cooperative agreements in the last two years lead to changes in the section assignments.”
“Normally, we try to make as few changes as possible, but every six years we are asked to start from scratch. This was a ‘start from scratch’ year,” the release added.

Once teams are assigned to enrollment classes, geography – and not competitive balance – determines where teams are placed, the MSHSL says. There is no appeal process for teams unhappy about where they were placed.

Recently the MSHSL released its competitive section assignments for the 2015-16 and 2016-17 school years.

Same thing happened in boys hockey... coaches wondering same thing, how Cretin was moved over.

Realignment swaps sections for powerhouses such as Edina, Eden Prairie
 
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ARM said:
Year after year, this is the most unfortunate part about the Class A bracket. In a tournament with at most three or four really good teams, two are in the same section.
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So given that, If you care to see the 1 vs 2 match up, they will likely meet in the section 5A final. I know that is where I plan to go...
 
Re: Minnesota Girls High School Hockey IV

hockeykrazy said:
Cretin was in 4AA the year before last. Maybe to even out the number of teams per section? Not sure. Looking into it.
Those Section realignments were in March of 2015 according to the Stillwater Gazette.
Girls hockey (Section AA)

Hill-Murray, Irondale, Mounds View, North St. Paul, Roseville, Stillwater, Tartan, White Bear Lake and Woodbury.

Who’s in: Irondale, Mounds View and Woodbury.

Who’s out: Cretin-Derham Hall.

Section realignment: Who’s going where?
Published March 26, 2015 at 5:49 pm


“Every two years the MSHSL reclassifies teams into new competitive sections. Every school in the MSHSL reports new enrollments to the Minnesota Department of Education on Oct. 1,” stated the MSHSL via a news release. “The MDE releases these enrollments in early February and we take our current registrations and rank the teams by enrollment to put them into classes. Changes in enrollment, new programs and the formation or dissolution of cooperative agreements in the last two years lead to changes in the section assignments.”
“Normally, we try to make as few changes as possible, but every six years we are asked to start from scratch. This was a ‘start from scratch’ year,” the release added.
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Appreciate the rapid reply. All of that makes sense, and is more or less what I'd expect.

Once teams are assigned to enrollment classes, geography – and not competitive balance – determines where teams are placed, the MSHSL says. There is no appeal process for teams unhappy about where they were placed...
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Except that in the case of CDH & Edina, geography seems to have been ignored.

Maybe I'm making too much of the Mpls./St. Paul distinction; I get that the mileage isn't large. I also realize that groupings of this nature will inevitably be imperfect. But the placement of CDH just seems geographically weird.
 
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Here's another site that breaks down the teams by section and shows their "QRF" ranking:

Class AA: http://www.minnesota-scores.net./classstandings.php?yid=1617&sport=110&class=3
Class A: http://www.minnesota-scores.net./classstandings.php?yid=1617&sport=110&class=2

Note that it's the coaches - not any one ranking (LPH, KRACH, QRF, etc.) - that decide how the various teams in their section are seeded. How individual teams did within their section and "head-to-head" matter a lot.
 
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