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Minnesota Cup

gopheritall said:
Exactly. If I remember right, ticket sales at the X for the Mankato "home" games refused to sell tickets to people from Mankato until all Gopher fans that wanted tickets had them. I think they used caller ID to identify Mankato fans. I suppose Gopher fans should have just agreed to only have Mankato fans purchase tickets.
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Sarcasm is lovely until confronted by the facts. I was a Mankato season-ticket holder. The tickets I got for our "home game" at the X were crap, buried down in a corner. Nowhere near as good as my seats in Mankato.

All the good seats between the blue lines were full of Maroon and Gold. In a building that holds over three times as many people, why weren't Mankato's season-ticket holders the first priority for a Mankato "home game?" Shouldn't I have gotten seats at least as good as my Mankato seats?

I've never been able to get an answer to that
 
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gopheritall said:
I would love to see them incorporate HDM with this. They would need more time between the Wild and the first game to get the Wild ticket holders out and the HDM in. Some sort of Hockey Fest between outside the X?
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Would be great, I think all the MN D1's should be showcased on that day, and make it a big deal.
 
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gopheritall said:
I would love to see them incorporate HDM with this. They would need more time between the Wild and the first game to get the Wild ticket holders out and the HDM in. Some sort of Hockey Fest between outside the X?
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Exactly. Hockey Fest right outside or perhaps a room at the River Center. You still have the bar option as always but some kind of event like a hockey fest would attract a wider audience which was lacking a few years ago when they tried this, somewhat. Don't get me wrong, I would love to see this outside at Target Field in the future by why pass up on the X which is one of, if not the best hockey arena? Not everyone is going to like this, got it, check. But if we are going through with it, don't make the mistakes in the past. This could be as fruitful as that beanpot in Mass. if it is done right, just get everyone involved. The growth of this could be great, you just have to put a little into the start of it and be patient.
 
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beersong said:
I think it's funny to hear how much UMTC and their fans care about the smaller programs in MN, but then in the next sentence say how they can't wait to play new opponents. If it was about anything other than money, you'd see UMTC dump their agreement with Notre Dame and quit seeking one with BU/BC and play Bemidji and Mankato instead.
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Those don't have to be mutually exclusive to a fan's wishlist. I'd love to see the Gophers find a way to schedule both MN Div I schools and a few teams from out East, but I understand that both probably won't happen most years. There's also a disconnect between these two points - Gophers fans have zero say in which schools the administration schedules. However, you are apparently grown up enough to recognize that is in fact mostly about money.
 
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way too much arguing and complaining in this thread. this tournament is going to be awesome for all the fans. i cannot wait
 
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Slap Shot said:
Those don't have to be mutually exclusive to a fan's wishlist. I'd love to see the Gophers find a way to schedule both MN Div I schools and a few teams from out East, but I understand that both probably won't happen most years. There's also a disconnect between these two points - Gophers fans have zero say in which schools the administration schedules. However, you are apparently grown up enough to recognize that is in fact mostly about money.
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Actually have met and hung out with beersong a few times. He's right. As fans, we hope to have the BSU's and MTU's etc on our schedule (fun road trips, and hockey support). But it's money. It's all money.
 
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MavsFan said:
Sarcasm is lovely until confronted by the facts. I was a Mankato season-ticket holder. The tickets I got for our "home game" at the X were crap, buried down in a corner. Nowhere near as good as my seats in Mankato.

All the good seats between the blue lines were full of Maroon and Gold. In a building that holds over three times as many people, why weren't Mankato's season-ticket holders the first priority for a Mankato "home game?" Shouldn't I have gotten seats at least as good as my Mankato seats?

I've never been able to get an answer to that
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So just to be clear, you are saying that people who supported Mankato were given "crappy" seats while people who supported MN were given "premium" seats? Based solely on which team they supported?

Sorry man, but that just doesn't pass the sniff test. When did you order your tickets? Did you take the time to make a request as to where you wanted to sit? How do you know that your definition of "quality seating" is universal (I actually go out of my way to be able to sit in corners rather than center ice)?

By the way, I was at that game, and I saw a few Mankato fans sitting in between the blue lines. Not many, but it was pretty representative of the total number of Mankato fans at that game.

There are a number of reasons to be be a skeptical of this whole thing, but thinking that fans of a certain program are going to be given "better seats" is a bit tin-foil hattish.
 
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Stauber1 said:
So just to be clear, you are saying that people who supported Mankato were given "crappy" seats while people who supported MN were given "premium" seats? Based solely on which team they supported?

Sorry man, but that just doesn't pass the sniff test. When did you order your tickets? Did you take the time to make a request as to where you wanted to sit? How do you know that your definition of "quality seating" is universal (I actually go out of my way to be able to sit in corners rather than center ice)?

By the way, I was at that game, and I saw a few Mankato fans sitting in between the blue lines. Not many, but it was pretty representative of the total number of Mankato fans at that game.

There are a number of reasons to be be a skeptical of this whole thing, but thinking that fans of a certain program are going to be given "better seats" is a bit tin-foil hattish.
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I'll admit, I wasn't at that game, so I don't know all the circumstances. I will say though that if you have season tickets in mankato at center ice and the game at the X was a "home" game and they were guaranteed like seat, they would have an argument for not being at center ice and the X when it was sold. From my perspective, it's water under the bridge. That was 6 (?) years ago. It's irrelevant at this point. My guess is this would not be considered a home game for anyone, so those issues aren't even part of this discussion. MavsFan is a bit overly bitter about everything that happened, but there is a reason why he's bitter.

I can understand the bitterness of some MSU fans. We put in about a $1000 for season tickets (with BLC donation) and have gotten to see 2 home playoff series in the 10 years of the program. Then to top it all off, games were moved away from our home arena against the Gophers and we essentially lost a home game for the sake of money. That money, n turn, hasn't turned into anything positive for the program. So, now the question becomes, why was it done? Is this tournament going to turn into the same type of situation, or will the program improve because of it? It's easy to be skeptical when looking at the history of events.
 
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Stauber1 said:
So just to be clear, you are saying that people who supported Mankato were given "crappy" seats while people who supported MN were given "premium" seats? Based solely on which team they supported?

Sorry man, but that just doesn't pass the sniff test. When did you order your tickets? Did you take the time to make a request as to where you wanted to sit? How do you know that your definition of "quality seating" is universal (I actually go out of my way to be able to sit in corners rather than center ice)?

By the way, I was at that game, and I saw a few Mankato fans sitting in between the blue lines. Not many, but it was pretty representative of the total number of Mankato fans at that game.

There are a number of reasons to be be a skeptical of this whole thing, but thinking that fans of a certain program are going to be given "better seats" is a bit tin-foil hattish.
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I was a season-ticket holder. When they re-scheduled the game to the X, they mailed us replacement tickets for the game that would no longer be at the Civic Center. The tickets they sent me, and every Mankato season-ticket holder I knew, were seriously worse seats than our regular seats. They could have put every Mankato season-ticket holder between the blue lines and had plenty of room to spare, to make up for the fact that we had to drive a hundred miles to see a "home" game, but they didn't. The vast majority of the people in the premium seats were Gophers fans. I have no idea why, but it was certainly suspicious. I was apparently not the only one miffed by this, because the next time they moved a home game to the X, they planned it before the season, and gave us the choice whether we wanted that game included in our season-ticket package.
 
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So, basically, the Beanpot, just 1100 miles west of Boston?
 
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Brenthoven said:
Actually have met and hung out with beersong a few times. He's right. As fans, we hope to have the BSU's and MTU's etc on our schedule (fun road trips, and hockey support). But it's money. It's all money.
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Yes and no:

I think it's funny to hear how much UMTC and their fans care about the smaller programs in MN, but then in the next sentence say how they can't wait to play new opponents.
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What you said, "We as fans", hope for doesn't jive with what he said, "We as fans", hope for. :) You're claiming consistency, he's claiming anything but. As I said these hopes don't have to be exclusive but more importantly we don't make the schedule.

And yes it is about the money but we don't have any say in that either.
 
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MavsFan said:
Sarcasm is lovely until confronted by the facts. I was a Mankato season-ticket holder. The tickets I got for our "home game" at the X were crap, buried down in a corner. Nowhere near as good as my seats in Mankato.

All the good seats between the blue lines were full of Maroon and Gold. In a building that holds over three times as many people, why weren't Mankato's season-ticket holders the first priority for a Mankato "home game?" Shouldn't I have gotten seats at least as good as my Mankato seats?

I've never been able to get an answer to that
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That's your athletic departments fault. I am sure they figured since they already had your money they would screw you over and leave the seats in the middle for the Gopher fans who paid a higher price than you paid. That doesn't surprise me since those same people backed out of a agreement they have with other teams as well. They must be a classy bunch.....
 
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jerryj said:
way too much arguing and complaining in this thread. this tournament is going to be awesome for all the fans. i cannot wait
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I don' think it is going to work. With 5 teams in the state one of the teams not named the Gophers will not be in it every year. It won't catch on like the beanpot because not every team will be there every year. There is no way I am buying tickets if the Huskies are not playing adn I would think most UMD, Mankato and BSU would be the same way. If that is the case then all the tourney season ticket holders will be Gopher fans and then why even have it?

If I was SCSU I would tell the Gophers we will make it easy on you guys and opt out of the Tourney as long as you agree to play us home and home Every year.....
 
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scsutommyboy said:
That's your athletic departments fault. I sure they figured since they already had your money they would screw you over and leave the seats in the middle for the Gopher fans who paid a higher price than you paid. That doesn't surprise me since those same people backed out of a agreement they have with other teams as well. They must be a classy bunch.....
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Ignoring how you belabor your point about Mankato opting out of home-and-homes, it doesn't seem to me like MavsFan is actually blaming the Gophers for it. Maybe s/he is and I'm misinterpreting something, but maybe MavsFan and others (like me) are equally as concerned about their own teams' athletic departments selling their teams out as they are about UMTC's willingness to exploit those ADs' scramble to keep playing the Gophers, seemingly at all cost. tUMD, SCSU, BSU and MSUM have athletic directors who are going along with this (so far) despite the colossal failure of a similar event.
 
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