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Married? Again?

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If God is against it, wouldn't it be prudent to agree with Him?

Only if you believe: a) in God and b) that's what he actually thinks.

If you believe in a and b above, then by all means don't conduct gay marriage in your place of worship. But that doesn't give you the right to deny marriage to other people in society who disagree with your religious beliefs absent some legitimate non-theological reason.
 
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Sad that so many people can't understand the difference between disagreement on an issue and hating someone. It is really possible to disagree about something (such as same sex marriage) and yet get along fine with folks who you disagree with. We'd be a lot healthier as a nation if people could grasp that, but the trend is away from such, not toward it.


Oh, and Handy, get off my front lawn! :p
 
Doubting Thomas... I mean Gurt.

That is why it's called "faith" ya know.

Note: not judging because I don't really care what each person believes as long as it doesn't directly impact me. Just making the point it was an odd response. Don't start holding your breath waiting for God to answer.


Odd response?

It's called "faith" to believe in a higher power when you can't prove it scientifically, only feel it it your heart.

Taking what a bunch of dudes wrote down thousands of years ago while claiming to speak for God as the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth is not faith. It's blindness.

Again, if God himself speaks to us and says that gay marriage is wrong, I'll consider it. Even then, I'd most likely come to the conclusion that He was a fake coz it goes against what the soul says is the truth.

Either way, this should have no bearing whatsoever on what the law of the land is.
 
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Obnoxious? Yes. Unfounded? Not really.
No, she's right. It was unfounded. Bob disagrees with gay marriage because of his religious beliefs. He has never once said God hates fags, and has said more than once that he subscribes to "Love the sinner, hate the sin". Handy put words in his mouth that not only did he not say, but has said the complete opposite.

Though to be fair...Handy is actually a godless hedonite. It's even on his business cards. :D
 
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Odd response?

It's called "faith" to believe in a higher power when you can't prove it scientifically, only feel it it your heart.

Taking what a bunch of dudes wrote down thousands of years ago while claiming to speak for God as the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth is not faith. It's blindness.

Again, if God himself speaks to us and says that gay marriage is wrong, I'll consider it. Even then, I'd most likely come to the conclusion that He was a fake coz it goes against what the soul says is the truth.

Either way, this should have no bearing whatsoever on what the law of the land is.

The comment about God showing up and speaking to us was odd IMHO since even in the bible God has always used some sort of vessel, which you knew and obviously don't expect to hear from God anytime soon. That's all I meant. Carry on because I'm not getting sucked too far into this one.
 
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I may not always agree with you but I found that obnoxious and unfounded. Sigh.

I cant see Bobs post but if he is upset over what I posted I dont much care. He has earned every bit of derision he gets around here. (as have I and many others) If he cant handle it he should keep his opinions to himself.
 
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If God is against it, wouldn't it be prudent to agree with Him?

God said in Exodus I can have slaves from neighboring areas...wouldn't it be prudent to agree with him?

Until I hear it from God I will just assume the writers of the Bible are as full of it as anyone else.

edit to add: I have no issue with religious people, I mean my grandfather was a Rabbi I grew up with it. People who proselytize though get no mercy from me.

But yes my business card does say Godless Hedonite :D
 
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I cant see Bobs post but if he is upset over what I posted I dont much care. He has earned every bit of derision he gets around here. (as have I and many others) If he cant handle it he should keep his opinions to himself.
So you don't read his posts but assume what he says. OK. That gives new meaning to the word assume. :rolleyes:
 
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I cant see Bobs post but if he is upset over what I posted I dont much care. He has earned every bit of derision he gets around here. (as have I and many others) If he cant handle it he should keep his opinions to himself.


So, I guess you did take my advice to get off my lawn! :p
 
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So you don't read his posts but assume what he says. OK. That gives new meaning to the word assume. :rolleyes:

You must be aware that this goes back years and years and years. Bob used to be less shy about stating his opinions. His newer version is of the sweet, reasonable guy who just happens to want to deny some of our population their equal rights due to his deep-seated religious beliefs. He didn't start his career on Handy's no-see-um list. He earned it.
 
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You must be aware that this goes back years and years and years. Bob used to be less shy about stating his opinions. His newer version is of the sweet, reasonable guy who just happens to want to deny some of our population their equal rights due to his deep-seated religious beliefs. He didn't start his career on Handy's no-see-um list. He earned it.
No, I've just gotten smarter about not wasting my time on people like you who mindlessly argue and bait. I've always looked for opportunities to have reasable discussions. What I've learned over the years around here is those folks are few and far between.

Where'd Kepler go anyway? He was one of those reasonable folks who I rarely agreed with, but was nice to discuss with.
 
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You must be aware that this goes back years and years and years. Bob used to be less shy about stating his opinions. His newer version is of the sweet, reasonable guy who just happens to want to deny some of our population their equal rights due to his deep-seated religious beliefs. He didn't start his career on Handy's no-see-um list. He earned it.

You are right, I don't know the history and it doesn't matter. It is one thing to call someone out on what they say but to call them out on what you didn't see, potting words in their mouth is just plain silliness.
 
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You must be aware that this goes back years and years and years. Bob used to be less shy about stating his opinions. His newer version is of the sweet, reasonable guy who just happens to want to deny some of our population their equal rights due to his deep-seated religious beliefs. He didn't start his career on Handy's no-see-um list. He earned it.

Maybe Bob's opinion has changed over the years. He has gotten with the times. He has adapted and improved.

In other words, he evolved.
 
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No, when it's convenient he'll mention that he's Jewish.

That is only when Old Pio calls me a Nazi or a KKK member :D (or when someone talks about the War on Christmas)

It isnt like Bob hasnt sat in judgement of others around here les, believe me his feelings on these subjects are quite well known.
 
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That is only when Old Pio calls me a Nazi or a KKK member :D (or when someone talks about the War on Christmas)

It isnt like Bob hasnt sat in judgement of others around here les, believe me his feelings on these subjects are quite well known.

Disagreeing is not sitting in judgement. If I tell someone they are doing something wrong, I am making a judgement call, but am I sitting in judgement? Some folks (well many) are uncomfortable and defensive when somebody tells them that they believe that they are doing something wrong. Some responses are nuanced, some are subtle, some are insulting, and some provide an Academy Award (tm) winning performance.

If caught you cheating on an exam and called you out on it, your responses could be:
(a) Let he who is without sin cast the first stone
(b) I need the grade
(c) F you and what are you going to do about it
(d) HE INSULTED ME! I AM OFFENDED!! I AM GOING TO SUE!! SEXUAL HARASSMENT!!!
 
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Anyone who doesn't agree with them is automatically sitting in judgment. Thinly veiled intolerance.
 
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